"We need to help our boys become strong men and learn that masculinity involves connection."

[redqueen]

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[Crowman2009]

1. The first thing would be to closed the social media and YouTube accounts of these racist alt-right..

...PUA shitlords. They are the ones responsible for spreading this behavior. I don't give a fuck about their Freeze Peaches!

[loyalsister]

6. Like white supremacy

It is NOT limited to the alt-right. Toxic masculinity is on full display among participants in all ideologies.

[Newest Reality]

2. I don't know...

I don't know if this culture, in general, is reflecting a good picture of their masculinity right now. Even saying that could be offensive to some.

When you read up on this conundrum, you find it that the identity our boys might need can be contrary to what some aspects of what the culture will nurture and support. That applies doubly to young, black males who have a greater stigma and burden in this case.

I am all for bringing this out in the open, but there are issues surrounding it that may make that an uphill climb. Things have changed so much in a few decades that you could almost expect a crises like this to emerge. And no, I am not referring to the "toxic" masculinity and patriarchy often referred to.

[IronLionZion]

3. Obama and Trudeau are good role models for boys

to see what strong decent gentleman are like.

Trump and his enablers are not.

Younger males would be exposed to a lot of nasty stuff online in social media, blogs, and forums where people like to outdo each other in posting shocking stuff. There are sites out there boasting little or no moderation of content.

For older guys there's RW hate radio from assholes like Rush Limbaugh, Micheal Savage, Alex Jones, and many more.

[Ellen Forradalom]

4. Shut off the porn spigot.

We're not talking about our fathers' dusty stack of Playboys in the garage. It's much, much more brutally misogynistic these days, and accessible on any middle-schooler's phone.

[redqueen]

5. I agree. As does Yang.

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[Ellen Forradalom]

7. Common sense. Thank you Yang.

[FreeState]

8. "It's much, much more brutally misogynistic these days"

Got a study to show that? I did a quick Google search and came up with the opposite (one porn stars opinion isn't a study):

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170926-is-porn-harmful-the-evidence-the-myths-and-the-unknowns

However, in recent years, porn has been accused of becoming increasingly violent. A veteran porn star said in a recent documentary about porn that, in the 1990s, it constituted “making love on a bed,” and having “lovey dovey sex”. But in 2010, researchers analysed more than 300 porn scenes and found that 88% contained physical aggression. Most of the perpetrators were male, and their targets female, and the latter’s most common response to aggression was to show pleasure or respond neutrally.

So what does the more recent research say? One review of more than 80 studies in 2009 concluded that evidence of a causal link between porn use and violence is slim, and any findings proving a connection are often exaggerated by the media and politicians. “It is time to discard the hypothesis that pornography contributes to increased sexual assault behaviour,” wrote the authors.

CONCLUSIONS?

Watching porn has been linked to a multitude of problems for individuals and wider society – but for every study maligning it, another clears its name. Often, evidence is mixed, and the research methods and sample sizes of studies have their limitations.

Will the future of ever-more immersive porn may bring with it more risks? It’s too early to say.

The question of cause and effect comes up a lot with research into porn: does porn attract more people with sexually aggressive tendencies, those who are in unhappy relationships, those with smaller reward systems in their brain and those with sexual addiction – or does it cause these things? It’s a tricky area to research – but until the answers are more definitive, the evidence so far suggests that the likelihood that porn has a negative effect very much depends on the individual consuming it.

[Ellen Forradalom]

9. Well that didn't take long

It is drearily predictable that someone leaps to his feet to defend his right to wank without regard to consequences for women as a class.


So no, I'm not taking your sea-lioning bait.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning

[FreeState]

13. No that's not what I was doing

I am open to learning. But thanks for nothing I guess.

[redqueen]

10. That study is a joke.

"We examined this accepted wisdom by utilizing a sample of 269 popular videos uploaded to PornHub over the past decade."

There are around 5 million videos uploaded every year.

They picked .00005% as the metric, and considered uploads from 2009 as part of the sample?

This is beyond pathetic.

[LanternWaste]

11. "Quick Google searches' illustrate to us only what we want them to.

Thorough research on the other hand (no pun intended-- if that's your thing more power to ya) resists forming a conclusion prior to examining the objective evidence.

[FreeState]

14. I couldn't find anything

I spent 10 minutes on google looking. I think that is fair - if someone states something I'm not going to believe it without evidence. I assume most here would do the same?

[redqueen]

15. Did you look at the first page on pornhub?

[LanternWaste]

12. "It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men."

W. E. B. Du Bois