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Democratic Primaries

Gothmog

(145,147 posts) Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:48 PM Dec 2019

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Great Biden ad on gun control

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Great Biden ad on gun control (Original Post) Gothmog Dec 2019 OP

Watched earlier.. I see it's already up to 313K views...GREAT Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #1

In Contrast, Bernie Voted For Gun Maker Immunity and Against Brady Bill... TomCADem Dec 2019 #5

Terrific. He's got this. emmaverybo Dec 2019 #2

I support gun control - not gun bans. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #3

FUCKING Assault Weapons HAVE MURDERED So many Cha Dec 2019 #4

Very effective ad Bayard Dec 2019 #6

Outstanding ad. LovingLife Dec 2019 #7

If by assault weapons Biden means rifles like semi-auto rifles like AR-15s and AKs, aikoaiko Dec 2019 #8

Thankfully, no one is fear-mongering... LanternWaste Dec 2019 #9

Right. The pictures of children and teachers barricading doors... aikoaiko Dec 2019 #10

K&R nt NYMinute Dec 2019 #11

Thekaspervote

(32,757 posts)

1. Watched earlier.. I see it's already up to 313K views...GREAT

Reply to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2019, 11:54 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)

5. In Contrast, Bernie Voted For Gun Maker Immunity and Against Brady Bill...

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:51 AM

Dec 2019

...yet Bernie claims to be against corporate greed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)

2. Terrific. He's got this.

Reply to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:16 AM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)

3. I support gun control - not gun bans.

Reply to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:27 AM

Dec 2019

There isn't any evidence that the assault weapons ban did much to save lives.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27842178

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,158 posts)

4. FUCKING Assault Weapons HAVE MURDERED So many

Reply to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:31 AM

Dec 2019

People and KIDS!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Bayard

(22,062 posts)

6. Very effective ad

Reply to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:54 AM

Dec 2019

Sanity on limiting military assault weapons, versus NRA enthusiast.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LovingLife

(46 posts)

7. Outstanding ad.

Reply to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:05 AM

Dec 2019

I don't know that Biden can claim that much credit, but he was an advocate. It was Diane Feinstein's bill and President Clinton fought very hard for it. It was a first step - needing to be strengthened, but of course Bush won years later, and he and the GOP let it expire completely. We need Democrats in full power for a while.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)

8. If by assault weapons Biden means rifles like semi-auto rifles like AR-15s and AKs,

Reply to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:40 AM

Dec 2019

then we're talking about a type of weapon that kills relatively few people in the US.

Yes, almost everyone one of those deaths is tragic and unjustifiable, but they are relatively few. And there a many millions more not used to kill people.

Here are the FBI data on Murder Weapons. All rifles (not just with ARs and AKs) never exceed 403 cases out of ~15,000 murders.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

Reducing gun violence is a good cause, but fear-mongering about Assault Weapons is just our version of crying out about 9/11 during election season.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

9. Thankfully, no one is fear-mongering...

Reply to aikoaiko (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:54 AM

Dec 2019

in either the ad, or the responses here. Bringing up fear-mongering where there is none may be effective feel-good rhetoric, but it's also an accurate example of the non sequitur fallacy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)

10. Right. The pictures of children and teachers barricading doors...

Reply to LanternWaste (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:00 AM

Dec 2019

... just random images not designed to elicit emotions.

I don't think you actually watched the video.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)

11. K&R nt

Reply to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:08 AM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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