Democratic Primaries

Buzz Lightyear

(73 posts) Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:19 AM Mar 2019

Stacey Abrams: The early VP announcement claim was made up

Media outlets who ran with this story have some explaining to do:

"We talked about whether I was thinking about running. We talked about whether he was thinking about running. But we did not have that conversation and everything else is pure speculation made up by somebody else."

Pundits were talking about a “gimmick” and all that crap.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/435592-stacey-abrams-addresses-biden-rumors-we-had-a-lovely-lunch

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Stacey Abrams: The early VP announcement claim was made up (Original Post) Buzz Lightyear Mar 2019 OP

She should flip it and say - DURHAM D Mar 2019 #1

Wonder why. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #2

Trial balloon customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #3

Conversely, if the "trial balloon" deflates, it could be perceived as a desperate move... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #4

Trial balloons remind me of the Hindenburg. crazytown Mar 2019 #5

Haha... good one! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #8

I called it that myself last week customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #6

I wouldn't call Joe's delayed announcement a "shrewd strategy." InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #9

No reason to have a target on your back customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #13

One way to look at it I guess. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #15

He will have no problem raising money and he doesn't need name recognition Trenzalore Mar 2019 #17

Just hope Joe swears off certain campaign donations, like many of the other candidates. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #18

There are 2 people on my no list for the nomination Trenzalore Mar 2019 #19

Ageism is wrong... as long as the candidate, say, like Bernie, shows no signs of slowing down. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #20

Bernie is the other hard no Trenzalore Mar 2019 #21

No. It was just as Stacy Abrams said. Cha Mar 2019 #10

Did you see either Joe Biden or Stacy Abrams customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #12

it was floating in the media for 4 or 5 days before they denied it Celerity Mar 2019 #14

If it walks like a trial balloon customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #16

so glad to hear this. n/t MBS Mar 2019 #7

That's as I expected, for him and her. Hortensis Mar 2019 #11

Let's not call Abrams a liar. She denied they discussed it R B Garr Mar 2019 #22

Kick. R B Garr Mar 2019 #23

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)

1. She should flip it and say -

Reply to Buzz Lightyear (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:25 AM

Mar 2019

I asked Joe if he would consider being my V-P.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

2. Wonder why.

Reply to Buzz Lightyear (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:27 AM

Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)

3. Trial balloon

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:48 AM

Mar 2019

Got shot down, and the best way to handle it is to deny the launch of the balloon. It happens in politics all the time.

Had it been successfully received, and Joe Biden's polling numbers shot up to over 50%, it would have been hailed as a brilliant move.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

4. Conversely, if the "trial balloon" deflates, it could be perceived as a desperate move...

Reply to customerserviceguy (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:07 PM

Mar 2019

Dontcha think?

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

5. Trial balloons remind me of the Hindenburg.

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:14 PM

Mar 2019

The trials came afterward.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

8. Haha... good one!

Reply to crazytown (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:47 PM

Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)

6. I called it that myself last week

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:17 PM

Mar 2019

comparing it to Reagan's move in 1976 to pick Richard Schweiker as a running mate to wrest the nomination from Gerald Ford, and Ted Cruz's fumbled attempt to get California primary votes by doing the same with perennial failure Carly Fiorina.

Joe Biden does have the early lead at this point, but whether he and/or his advisers squander it, or he has it taken from him by a more clever candidate remains to be seen. It is shrewd strategy to delay the announcement of his candidacy as long as possible given his current position, but that can only go on for just so long.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

9. I wouldn't call Joe's delayed announcement a "shrewd strategy."

Reply to customerserviceguy (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:50 PM

Mar 2019

But, hey, he's the political expert... what do I know?... Basically, jack!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)

13. No reason to have a target on your back

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:12 PM

Mar 2019

any earlier than necessary. Once he is a declared candidate, then the battle is joined.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

15. One way to look at it I guess.

Reply to customerserviceguy (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:51 PM

Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)

17. He will have no problem raising money and he doesn't need name recognition

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:21 PM

Mar 2019

It is about the soundest thing he can do at this point. The longer he can sit out and avoid the scrutiny of being a declared candidate the better. As long as he declares by the first debate he is fine.

Frankly I'm not enthused about anyone 75+ running for President with the way health can take a downturn fast at that age.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

18. Just hope Joe swears off certain campaign donations, like many of the other candidates.

Reply to Trenzalore (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:45 PM

Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)

19. There are 2 people on my no list for the nomination

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:56 PM

Mar 2019

Joe is one of them regardless of what he does or says. If he was the nominee I would of course vote for either of them with great apprehension.

I can be accused of ageism but father time is undefeated. Failing to acknowledge that reality is foolishness.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

20. Ageism is wrong... as long as the candidate, say, like Bernie, shows no signs of slowing down.

Reply to Trenzalore (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:04 PM

Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)

21. Bernie is the other hard no

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 12:15 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,112 posts)

10. No. It was just as Stacy Abrams said.

Reply to customerserviceguy (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:01 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)

12. Did you see either Joe Biden or Stacy Abrams

Reply to Cha (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:10 PM

Mar 2019

deny this the day the rumor/trial balloon got launched?

It's simply what politicians do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Celerity

(43,283 posts)

14. it was floating in the media for 4 or 5 days before they denied it

Reply to customerserviceguy (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 04:57 PM

Mar 2019

ironically (or not) The Hill was one of the first pushing it

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)

16. If it walks like a trial balloon

Reply to Celerity (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:16 PM

Mar 2019

etc., it is probably a trial balloon. Four or five days is half of an eternity in the 24/7 news cycle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MBS

(9,688 posts)

7. so glad to hear this. n/t

Reply to Buzz Lightyear (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:31 PM

Mar 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

11. That's as I expected, for him and her.

Reply to Buzz Lightyear (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:11 PM

Mar 2019

Analyzing what's being claimed against what you have good reason to believe about someone is only sensible.

Btw, those claiming Stacey was insulted and injured were doing a hit job on him, and that was obvious at the time. Shame on them and all who ran with it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden