Buttigieg-Warren clash on campaign trail spills into debate

[TexasTowelie]

By Kathleen Ronayne, Darlene Superville And Steve Peoples


LOS ANGELES — The long-festering feud between Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg erupted Thursday night in a high-stakes debate that tested the strength of the Democratic Party’s shrinking pool of presidential contenders just six weeks before primary voting begins.

Buttigieg, the 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, has emerged as an unlikely presidential power player, gaining ground with a centrist message. Warren, the Massachusetts senator who has become his progressive foil, attacked Buttigieg’s fundraising practices. And Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, who is competing with Buttigieg for moderate voters, challenged his limited governing experience.

The debate came a day after a highly contentious vote to impeach President Trump, which showed in dramatic relief how polarized the nation is over his presidency. With the Republican-controlled Senate likely to acquit him, the stakes are high for Democrats to select a challenger who can defeat Trump in November.

The forum highlighted the choice Democrats will have to make between progressive and moderate, older and younger, men and women and the issues that will sway the small but critical segment of voters who will determine the election. The candidates sharply disagreed about the role of money in politics, the value and meaning of experience and the direction of the American health care system.

In the most pointed exchange, Warren zeroed in on Buttigieg’s recent private meeting with wealthy donors inside a California “wine cave,” the details of which were recounted in a recent Associated Press story.

Read more: https://www.pressherald.com/2019/12/19/progressives-moderates-poised-to-clash-in-democratic-debate/
(Portland Press Herald)

[yaesu]

1. I was surprised when Buttigieg said going into Afghanistan was something we had to do

He should have known by now that the Afghan government offered to turn BinL over to a neutral country right after 9/11 for trial but Cheney wanted that oil too bad to wait thus we have been wasting lives and money there for almost 20 years.

[TexasTowelie]

2. For the record, let's complete the rest of your assertion

President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.

Returning to the White House after a weekend at Camp David, the president said the bombing would not stop, unless the ruling Taliban "turn [bin Laden] over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostages they hold over." He added, "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty". In Jalalabad, deputy prime minister Haji Abdul Kabir - the third most powerful figure in the ruling Taliban regime - told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, but added: "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

I don't like Bush by any means, but getting bin Laden was not enough. Letting the Taliban exist would only prompt more terrorist attacks.