Slate: Bernie won the Battle of the Wine Cave.

[crazytown]

Grapes of Wrath

Bernie won the Battle of the Wine Cave.

On Thursday, Democrats held their sixth presidential debate in Los Angeles and Sen. Elizabeth Warren sparked the biggest moment of the night when she attacked Mayor Pete Buttigieg for holding a large-donor fundraiser at a posh, Swarovski crystal–filled wine cave in California’s Napa Valley.

The clear winner of the bold, crisp, and delicious exchange between Warren and Buttigieg, though, was not the senator from Massachusetts or the mayor from South Bend: It was the senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders.

Sanders’ team of surrogates had come prepared for a showdown about the wine cave: senior aide Jeff Weaver and national co-chairwoman Nina Turner both wore black T-shirts emblazoned with the URL to a website called PetesWineCave.com. (The link redirected to a fundraising page for Sanders.) “You see my T-shirt?” Turner asked reporters. “Yeah, we want to have this fight.”

But it was Warren who brought up the cave, and Warren who drew the counterattack from Buttigieg. In the post-debate spin room, Sanders’ supporters seemed practically giddy that two of their candidate’s biggest rivals had spent the most memorable moment of the debate tearing each other down on what has long been one of his signature issues, the corrupting influence of money in politics.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/12/sanders-warren-buttigieg-wine-cave-debate.html

[George II]

1. The most memorable moment to me was Biden telling Sanders (politely) to get his hand out of his face

[comradebillyboy]

7. That was so very satisfying. The pinnqacle of the debate IMHO.

[Cha]

13. Like this..

Winners and losers from the December Democratic debate

Sanders waved his arm when Biden was talking — as he is wont to do — and Biden told him, “Put your hand down for a second, Bernie.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/19/winners-losers-december-democratic-debate/

[George II]

14. Biden wasn't even a minute into his allotted time before that happened (50 seconds in this video):

[Cha]

15. JHC.. what a pic frozen in time, eh?

Thanks!

[TidalWave46]

17. Sanders doesn't look ok. NT

[ehrnst]

22. Indeed. (nt)

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. IMO, purity wars are a circular firing squad.

They made us look idiotic.

[Cha]

10. Yeah.. **** the purity tests.

Hey Aloha, greatauntwithtriplets!

Good to see you!

[greatauntoftriplets]

11. Hi, Cha!

No one will ever be pure enough if that is our standard. It's pointless and a waste of time.

[Cha]

19. Yes it is.. Do we even know how much

Grief we've gotten from "purity tests"?! Incalculable!

[The Valley Below]

3. The Jeff Weavers, Nina Turners, David Sirotas, and Briahna Joy Grays of the world

see this crap as a "victory."

But it only damages our party.

I'm very sorry Elizabeth Warren went down this path. It was a very bad move.

[Amimnoch]

4. Really. Leaves me wondering if they really even care if Trump is removed.

But damn if they don’t do some great sound bites taking pot shots at each other.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.

[Cha]

20. Excellent point, TVB.

[The Valley Below]

21. Mahalo Cha!

[ehrnst]

31. I agree with you. (nt)

[pnwmom]

5. I think Klobuchar won the battle of the Wine Cave. nt

[relayerbob]

6. No one won that round

Except perhaps the GOP.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

8. All your wine cave are belong to Bernie! He was the clear winner at last night's debate.

Bernie pretty much won every exchange he participated in... he certainly got the best of Joe, as did most of the other Democratic candidates. Hat's off to Bernie!!



Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[The Valley Below]

12. "Senator, with all respect, this question is about race...

Can you answer the question as it was asked?"

Cue: Howls of laughter from the audience.

We must have been watching different debates.

[George II]

16. Not according to the experts. And he most certainly didn't get the best of Joe, who ate his lunch.

[ehrnst]

24. Unless, of course, we don't want someone "proposin to reach across the aisle""

And working "wit deplorable GOP traitors."

Amirite?!!!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287381332#post20

[Tiggeroshii]

28. Bernie easily won this. He stuck to he issues and made clear the passion for change

That he knows we so badly need. Go Bernie!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. Abso-fuckin-lutely!! Bernie was on top of his game all night long...

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Time for all to join the progressive revolution!!

[unitedwethrive]

9. It makes me sad to think that a "win" is simply based on attacking a fellow democrat

Particularly in a situation like this, where plenty of people can see both sides. I understand the need to get big money out of politics, but since it IS in politics – and the repubs are using it to their full advantage – it would be foolish of us to take a knife to a gun fight.

We need to do whatever it takes, legally, to get back into power, and then try to change the laws for the greater good.

[myohmy2]

33. I understand...

...your concerns but now IS the time to be weighing the circumstances surrounding our candidates...

...what you saw as an attack I saw as bringing light to things we should all be concerned about...

...I heard no falsehoods or hyperbole from Bernie just facts stated with passion...

...I understand many feel Bernie should not be our standard-bearer, but irrational differences aside, why not?

...watch and tell me Bernie's not up to the job

...he's doing it...

[TidalWave46]

18. lol@NinaTurner NT

[Demsrule86]

23. Doubling down hey? Well whatever. I don't get it.

[ehrnst]

25. They leave out the part where Pete pointed out he's the only non-millionaire on the stage.

Of course some on that stage have gone from vilifying the "millionaires and billionaires" to just "the billionaire class" smooth as silk.

[George II]

27. Well, it wouldn't be a good look to be a rantin' and a ravin' about oneself.

[ehrnst]

30. Mercy, no.

[evertonfc]

26. no one cares

really. Get out of your bubble please. Good grief

[David__77]

29. I liked Klobuchar's reference to the wind cave.

I’ve been to wind cave she mentioned and agree with her recommendation to visit it. A wine cave sounds pretty fancy to me, and I’m not too into wine.

[Gothmog]

32. I have issues with Mayor Pete but I thought that he won this exchange last night

[OilemFirchen]

35. ... according to Jeff Weaver, and dutifully regurgitated by Jeremy Stahl.

Then, for bonus points, ends the article with this paragraph:

According to Luntz’s Los Angeles focus group, nine people thought Warren won the debate. Fourteen people thought Sanders, who only had six supporters at the start of the night, won. Zero people in that survey thought Buttigieg won.

Jeremy, your Pullet Surprise is waiting...