Bernie goes existential and PBS ain't having it.

[Cha]

Link to tweet

Booom!

[oldsoftie]

1. FINALLY a moderator who doesnt let a candidate get away with that shit.

they do it ALL the time; answer a question with a statement about a totally different topic. Not just Sanders, but he's been very good at it in past debates

[Cha]

5. That's why it's so remarkable.. just answer the damn

question!

Mahalo oldsoftie!

[George II]

2. I LOVED that comment by the moderator. My wife was asleep, and I screamed when I heard it....

...she came into my office and asked "what's going on?"

Wasn't there a movie decades ago called "The Flim Flam Man"?

[highplainsdem]

3. I loved it, too!

[Cha]

10. lol! I don't think BS saw that coming! Do moderators

usually call out candidates when they don't answer the question?

Thank you, George!

[Blue_true]

25. Actually George, your wife likely didn't think Flim Flam Man

as she came out of her sleep, more likely it was "Shining" and she was looking for a snowcat.

[Cha]

61. KICK!

[highplainsdem]

4. K&R! Thanks, Cha!

[Cha]

46. Thank you, hpd!

[Me.]

6. Boy Oh Boy

He's getting caught out and called on everything and he's not even the nominee. Just a fraction of what other candidates have gone through. But maybe because he feels free to do so much criticizing people are figuring what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Aloha Cha...nice to see this thread, glad I came across it...

[Cha]

13. Mahalo Me for K&R it!

He looked surprised when the Mod asked him to answer the question that was actually asked!

Aloha, Me!

[Me.]

14. ...

[Me.]

43. K

[betsuni]

7. "I said 'black' 50 times! That's the 51st time."

Loved the moderator. Expecting "PBS is part of the corporate media conglomerate" any moment.

[George II]

8. "And I'm white too!"

[betsuni]

9. ...

[Cha]

17. Who says that?! Last night "BS Swooped" in..

Cory Booker didn't like Warren's "wine cave" attack on Buttigieg

Therein lies the risk that Booker identifies for the Democrats, that not only is very little gained from this line of attack, it also might embitter voters toward other candidates who fail the test. And as Independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders demonstrated Thursday night, that risk extends to Warren.

Seconds after Warren and Pete finished up, Sanders swooped in to boast that he is “the only candidate up here that doesn’t have any billionaire contributions,” which includes Warren. Her current presidential campaign, not her old pre-pledge Senate campaign, has accepted donations at or near the $2800 individual contribution limit from at least six billionaires.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287388461

Mahalo, betsuni!

[betsuni]

19. Old Bernie quote, same problem of repeating stump speech when asked about race.

Anyone starting these purity arguments is dooming our next Democratic nominee, and us.

[Cha]

20. Sorry, I didn't think I was explaining myself

very well. I know BS said it.. but I meant "Who actually says something like that?".. it's so weird and kind of insulting.

Anyone starting these purity arguments is dooming our next Democratic nominee, and us.

Absolutely correct.. we've seen this bad movie before and the ending was tragic.

[betsuni]

34. Oops. My mistake.

Quick, to the wine cave!

[Cha]

35. lol.. could have been read either way..

and I knew that.. Aye yai yai!

But, yeah! to the wine CAVE for some good fashioned tasting!

[sheshe2]

11. He reverts to his stump speach.

He can not answer questions on race without it.

Following that twitter thread, he did it again here.


JAM
@Eviljohna

He did this again later in the debate when asked about protections for the trans community. The question particularly addressed the murders of black trans women if I remember correctly and he pivoted to M4A

[George II]

12. The problem is that his stump speech doesn't address race.

[sheshe2]

16. Correct.

It never has.

[Blue_true]

30. Bernie is not racist, but unfortunately he seems to think that racism will go away if more people

had more money in their pockets, access to quality healthcare and college. I think that view is very simplistic, but it seems to saturate the mindset of him and his supporters.

[sheshe2]

36. Money in your savings account is great.

Yet it does not end there. Racism will not be stopped with a few or lots of dollars.

[Blue_true]

45. You know that, I know that, but a lot of people think otherwise. nt

[sheshe2]

47. Yep.

[Cha]

60. Big Problem.

[Cha]

49. Thanks for that, she.. you made me look up JAM's twiiter page..

Link to tweet

[Cha]

65. yeah, boring.

[sheshe2]

66. Yep.

[Cha]

67. ..

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

15. I gave up watching debates many cycles ago.

I felt I did not learn anything from them, and the fact that much of the time the candidates didn't answer the question asked made me crazy.

[OldRed2450]

18. He does that a lot.

[Cha]

27. Yes BS does.. not the first time..

Link to tweet

[jalan48]

21. This probably only works if you're Biden

When asked if he supports reparations for African-Americans, Biden got worked up — on a different subject. “We have 24 of every 100 children in our schools today is Hispanic,” Biden said, at a very high volume. “The idea that we are going to walk away and not provide every opportunity for them is not only stupid and immoral but is bad for America.” The moderators moved on, rather than point out that he did not respond to the question in the slightest. Interestingly, Biden’s infamous “record player” rant from September was also in response to a question about reparations.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/10-highlights-from-the-december-democratic-debate-wine-cave.html

[billpolonsky]

22. Biden is, after all...

... the chosen one.

[jalan48]

23. It appears that way.

[Cha]

26. oh please... wake up.. BS does this all the time.

".. Biden the chosen one.." Ha!

[Skittles]

39. actually it appears the old white males are the chosen ones

[Cha]

40. No it doesn't. None of our candidates are the "chosen one"..

that's just insulting.. And ageist.

[Demsrule86]

44. If by that you mean the voters chose him...you are correct. He is the front runner.

[Cha]

50. Thank you, Dems!

[Demsrule86]

54. Anytime Cha

[Cha]

24. lol.. Your whatabout Biden isn't working.. BS does this

all the time..

Link to tweet

answering

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128786745

[jalan48]

28. LOL @ Pot calling the kettle black.

[Cha]

29. Yeah you did

[OldRed2450]

31. Yes, they all do it but...

Bernie does it almost every question and that is not an exaggeration.

[Cha]

32. Hi!

Thank you!

[OldRed2450]

33. Yes. Thank you.

Actually, there are few questions asked of Bernie that he hasn't done that.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. Ooops!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Come join the progressive revolution!!

[Gothmog]

37. I was amused when PBS asked sanders to actually answer the question asked

[Cha]

57. the audience loved it!

[Gothmog]

58. Yes the audience knew that sanders was not answering the question asked to him

[Cha]

59. Busted on live tv.

[NNadir]

38. If I were Bernie Sanders, I wouldn't try to change the subject to climate change.

Of all of our candidates - and I don't really consider him our candidate since I'm a Democrat - he is the least qualified of any on the stage to address climate change.

He absolutely hates the only technology capable of addressing it. His policies will make things worse, not better.

[YOHABLO]

41. No candidate on that stage has a real clear solution to the rise of white supremacy.

But we all know who started the fire. So, in fairness, they should have asked that of each candidate. Even if Biden does get the nomination, what's his solution?

[LongtimeAZDem]

42. Probably the same as his general approach; quit fanning the flames of partisanship and restore civility

Of course, he gets ridiculed for it, by both the left and the right

[emmaverybo]

51. I think he and other candidates would say stop igniting and enabling and legitimizing it. Biden

launched on that concept and has repeatedly referred to it. But I also think most would talk about
getting the FBI back into monitoring white Supremacist groups and identifying hate crimes as acts of domestic terrorism when they fit that description, which in turn would lead to more allocating more resources to counter-terrorist activities against lone and group domestic terrorists potential and active.

[Hortensis]

64. Is that why Sanders didn't vote during the civil rights era

when he was eligible? Because neither party had an answer? Neither the Republicans arresting and even murdering civil rights activitists or the Democrats passing the voting rights acts of 1964 and 1965 and sending the National Guard to desegregate schools? And much else? Putting an end to school prayer as a violation of separation of church and state, for isntance?

Tell me, Yo. Why DIDN'T Sanders vote Democrat to establish Medicare? Why wasn't he determined to defeat the Republicans' efforts to block it? Was it because "neither side had a real clear solution" for elderly and disabled people suffering and dying for lack of healthcare?

Why DID Sanders try to destroy the ACA at the same time that the Republicans and their kleptocrat classes were? Why IS Sanders advocating for destroying NATO at the same time Trump and Putin are?

Illuminates a whole different meaning to his usual "Anyway, the Democrats (Republicans) do it too."

Imo, there's something wrong with all people with this consistent anti- liberal, anti- progressive, anti- Democratic Party pattern of repeated refusals to take stands (such easy and moral ones!) for progressive actions that were right and necessary.

[NYMinute]

48. Bernie's tricks are not working on the media this time

The last time he got a pass

[democratisphere]

52. Me either!

[cwydro]

56. Love it!

Rec.

[R B Garr]

62. LOL, Bern got BURNED!

Great clip, Cha! I still haven’t had a chance to watch the debate, but it’s recorded so we’ll have time soon.

So glad to see Bernie called on his constant switcheroos. It’s hard to take someone seriously who has canned answers as a crutch. The same answer for every question, ugh.

hi Cha

[Cha]

63. I think it's impossible to

take someone like that "serious".

Mahalo, RB!

[NurseJackie]

68. I'm not having it either. I'm so over him.

In fact, I have been ever since he called for Obama to be primaried. Then, the icing on the cake with the cherry on top was his unforced endorsement of Cenk Uygur... the hater of the Democratic party and the defender of animal sexual abusers. (Yep... it's true... he actually said that bestiality was okay as long as the horse was satisfied and was able to come too. Then he made a whinnying noise, imitating the sound of a sexually gratified horse. What a disgusting PIG he is.)

[Cha]

69. Fortunately.. many

many people know exactly what you're saying.. Thank you for shining the light!