Joe Biden to rich donors: "Nothing would fundamentally change" if he's elected

[Cheap_Trick]

And I believe him.

https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe-biden-to-rich-donors-nothing-would-fundamentally-change-if-hes-elected/

[evertonfc]

1. It's true

and nothing would if Sanders were elected either.

[Fresh_Start]

22. +1000 NT

nt

[Recursion]

24. Somebody print this in letters of bronze

Thank you

[emmaverybo]

30. Thank you! True!

[Hortensis]

43. "WE CAN HAVE DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY, OR

we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH. Nancy Pelosi, the current leader of the Democratic Party, to the nation at the opening of the 116th congress.

Get it?

How much clearer does it have to be stated? Here's more truth:

Obama raised the personal tax rate on the very wealthy to the level it was at before the nation moved right and elected Reagan. He was limited to that, by executive order, because congress was controlled by Republicans. What we would already have done if only...!

And here's the truth you should know without reading a thing, because it's about who we are:

Biden means the Democratic Party is still committed to fixing the problems of severe income inequality that have severely damaged the wellbeing of our nation. But we will not be adopting extremist plans.

It's not as if we haven't been here before. Our grandparents showed us how to do it and created the greatest period of wellbeing in our nation's history. We can and will too. When we get the power.

[Hav]

3. As poster number 1 said, neither would there be any change for them

under Bernie and there also wouldn't be under Warren.

“I mean, we may not want to demonize anybody who has made money,” he said. “The truth of the matter is, you all, you all know, you all know in your gut what has to be done. We can disagree in the margins but the truth of the matter is it’s all within our wheelhouse and nobody has to be punished. No one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change.”

[David__77]

17. I think that the same is true under Warren or Sanders' proposed tax policies.

Wealthy people would generally go on being wealthy. I'm not aware of a major Democratic candidate proposing any policies that would fundamentally change the basic class relationships in this country. This is largely a question of how economically polarized society is going to be, or if further polarization will occur.

[Thekaspervote]

4. Blah blah blah...You guys are on a roll with bashing the front runner today

[George II]

5. It's amazing, isn't it? When do schools open next week?

[emmaverybo]

31. I literally did lol.

[justhanginon]

41. Elementary or high schools?

[pangaia]

13. Here is something else he said..

“I was in a caucus with James O. Eastland,” Biden said. "He never called me 'boy,' he always called me 'son.'" He also cited Talmadge, calling him "one of the meanest guys I ever knew.”

Well I mean, of course. You aren't aren't BLACK. Joe. !!

And then this--

"Well, guess what?" Biden said. "At least there was some civility. We got things done. We didn't agree on much of anything. We got things done. We got it finished. But today, you look at the other side and you're the enemy. Not the opposition — the enemy. We don't talk to each other anymore."

As if it is BOTH SIDES who are to blame... sorry it ain't. Not this time. These are gangsters who are about to finally succeed in turning the USA into a fascist dictatorship...


"I know the new 'New Left' tells me that I'm — this is old-fashioned," he added. "Well guess what? If we can't reach a consensus in our system, what happens? It encourages and demands the abuse of power by a president. That's what it does. You have to be able to reach consensus under our system — our constitutional system of separation of powers."

1-The 'NEW LEFT?" Who's that?
2- Consensus...? Again, I am sorry to say but this is NOT a 'both sides are to blame' moment..


Sorry, as Susan Collins might put it, this concerns me.

And PLEASE this ain't bashing, period.....

[emmaverybo]

36. Oh, not the son vs. boy thing again. Eastland called Ted Kennedy "boy." It's not exclusively used

as a racial slur. “Good ole boys?” That term comes from white men referring to themselves and other white men as boys.

“Boy,” in a non-racialized context, can be used to express friendliness and playfulness or hierarchy as a father and son or a boss and clerk. The son vs. boy Biden referred to, as Eastland used these terms with other senators, was about gradations in his patronizing, condescending attitude with white senators.

Willful and persistent misinterpretation as it’s been posted here several times that Eastland called Kennedy boy and had this tendency to use the term with white colleagues.

[pangaia]

42. you could be right.. or...

However I am not 'willfully misinterpreting' anything.
And I am not being persistent because it is the first time I have expressed such an opinion.

[emmaverybo]

45. Fair enough. Sorry I extrapolated to you personally.

[pangaia]

46. no problem. i understrand your pain, as it were...

And I don;t follow every single post about the primaries.. too predictable..

[emmaverybo]

47. Thanks. Waving back.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

6. Oh, I believe Joe on this one...precisely why Bernie is gonna be the Democratic nominee & Joe won't!

We The People are demanding a BOLD PROGRESSIVE AGENDA... no more timid, status quo incrementalism where nothing would fundamentally change, as Joe is proposing.

Sorry Joe, that's not gonna cut it in 2020. Bernie is leading a political MOvement... with a capital MO'!!! Economic inequality, racial inequality, healthcare inequality, education inequality, criminal justice inequality... PRESIDENT SANDERS IS NOT PUTTIN' UP WITH THAT SHIT ANYMORE!! AND NEITHER ARE WE THE PEOPLE!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[msongs]

9. funny some think their view is "we the people" instead of "we some people" nt

[ChubbyStar]

20. Because you speak for everyone right?

Your comment about Colin's tennis shoes did not reflect that......

[Demsrule86]

18. The quote is out of context. Joe said nothing changes for them if they Pay more.

“Nothing would fundamentally change.” Biden tells wealthy donors "we may not want to to demonize anyone who's made money" and suggests that his tax plans wouldn't be too onerous on them because "nobody has to be punished. No one's standard of living would change."

[Fresh_Start]

23. wrong

some of want feasible incrementalism
rather than blowing up the place
Bernie bros wanted to blow up the place in 2016 and they succeeded and we got trump

Bernie winning the nomination means that trump will be reelected

[CentralMass]

34. Yes.

[Gothmog]

7. I was at one of these fundraisers and Joe talked about retoring America

I attended one of the fundraisers and Joe was focused on restoring the damage done by trump and improving the ACA

[Hav]

8. Was it in June 2019?

Because that is how old this hitjob of an article is.
But the OP is even more deceiving by leaving out the context of the quote that actually points to potentially demanding more from the wealthy, just without demonizing people.

“I mean, we may not want to demonize anybody who has made money,” he said. “The truth of the matter is, you all, you all know, you all know in your gut what has to be done. We can disagree in the margins but the truth of the matter is it’s all within our wheelhouse and nobody has to be punished. No one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change.”

[pangaia]

10. "No one's standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change."

I read the article..... and to me..

"No one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change.”

MEANS, "No one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change.”

Sounds like neither the rich, nor the poor.

Biden went on to say that the rich should not be blamed for income inequality, pleading to the donors, “I need you very badly.”

Oh yes they very well SHOULD be blamed; alone? perhaps, perhaps not, but blamed absolutely.



Bashing accusation coming in-- 10,9,8,7.....

[Hav]

11. It's a matter of interpretation

but if he was talking to wealthy donors, then it's fair to assume he was addressing them.
But basically it's the same reasoning behind Bernie's or Warren's approach to ask more from the ultra rich which is fair. They can afford the 3%, nothing would fundamentally change for them.

[pangaia]

14. That could be another interpretation. That's true..

[Gothmog]

12. It was much later-just after the Houston presidential debate

[Otto Lidenbrock]

15. you bernie folks are really desperate

rehashing stuff from six months ago just means i'll rehash the context from six months ago

Link to tweet

[CentralMass]

35. Desperate? The article quoted status quo Joe .

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. Quoting Joe?! Ohhh, the outrage!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[vsrazdem]

40. Status Quo Joe, that's a good one.

[Demsrule86]

16. Posted back in June...old and worthless...posted a half dozen times...and it is of course Salon...

home of Goodman...You know what will not fundamentally change? The amount of misery Trump would inflict on us should he win four more years. Biden is the most electable Democrat...you really should add the date to this post as it is close to deceptive to pretend it is new.

[Hortensis]

19. Biden's famous for his good character and lack of corruption.

So I believe him also.

[W_HAMILTON]

21. Sounds like Sanders's comment that a multibillionaire will still be a multibillionaire...

...even if Sanders were to tax away most of his wealth.

[Aaron Pereira]

25. He's going after a specific group of voters.

Plenty of people out there believe the status-quo with some tailoring around the edges is just fine. He's being honest.

[Dream Girl]

26. I'm beginning to wonder if Russia isn't in on this....

[aeromanKC]

27. What will change is one step closer to repeal Citizen's United

BIG Step!!

[RandySF]

28. A post worthy of the userid.

[Guilded Lilly]

29. What would change is no more Cretin and his evil. That's damned significant.

[jberryhill]

32. Live at Budokan

When you would screw whatever you could get your hands on into the dashboard, as long as it could play cassette tape.

[Locrian]

33. making the bush tax cuts permanent is a good indicator of his priorities - n/t

[tritsofme]

39. You're talking about the deal Biden negotiated that raised taxes on the rich and averted

a middle class tax hike?

[Locrian]

44. "This was a very bad deal"

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/28/18955310/democratic-debate-2019-biden-bennet

“The deal with Mitch McConnell was a complete victory for the Tea Party,” he said. “We had been running against this for 10 years. We lost that economic argument because that deal extended almost all those Bush tax cuts permanently and put in place the mindless cuts we still are dealing with today that are called the sequester. That was a great deal for Mitch McConnell and a terrible deal for America.”

To the best of my understanding at the time, much of the White House staff and the Senate leadership agreed with Bennet that the deal was bad. But some mix of nervous elements among red-state senators and in the White House decided to strike it, and once it was struck, few senators felt like being party poopers and voting no.

[EveHammond13]

38. don't care

[myohmy2]

48. see...

...this is what I mean...

" Former Vice President Joe Biden assured rich donors at a ritzy New York fundraiser that “nothing would fundamentally change” if he is elected.

Biden told donors at an event at the Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan on Tuesday evening that he would not “demonize” the rich and promised that “no one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change,” Bloomberg News reported. "

...this makes me feel like Joe's not on my side...

[madville]

49. Good

I want the economy and markets to remain strong, my retirement and investment funds (and the same for millions of other folks as well) are doing great.