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Biden on Bernie's comments that Trump will eat Joe for lunch in a general election: (Original Post) OldRed2450 Dec 2019 OP
lol.. perfect! This is what I had to say about BS' Cha Dec 2019 #1
OMG! Wipe out! sheshe2 Dec 2019 #6
Mahalo, she! I don't know how Cha Dec 2019 #31
Those drummers were AbSoLuTeLy AMAZING. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #34
Clever and classy, as is typical with Joe Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #2
darn right JOE is clever AND classy !!!!! trueblue2007 Dec 2019 #24
Agreed Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #46
LOL Gothmog Dec 2019 #3
The reporter asks.. ".. who trump?".. As IF! Cha Dec 2019 #4
I have to agree with Bernie on this. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #5
I have to agree with Joe on this. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #7
What a surprise BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #22
K&R sheshe2 Dec 2019 #8
Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump TomCADem Dec 2019 #9
It's going to get really bad once voting begins. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #10
Bernie Will Go Scorched Earth Once It Is Down to Two People TomCADem Dec 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #14
Agree. BS always sounds like an angry uncle. onetexan Dec 2019 #20
Bernie Will Go Scorched Earth Once It Is Down to Two People .... just like he did in 2016 trueblue2007 Dec 2019 #25
Rerun. sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #37
I tend to agree, if he gets into a one v two race, it'll be even worse OnDoutside Dec 2019 #45
Holy shit. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #12
Hope it Cha Dec 2019 #32
Thanks for this. It's obvious why Bernie needs to attack R B Garr Dec 2019 #48
That is a pretty good line. StrictlyRockers Dec 2019 #13
Bernie would refuse evertonfc Dec 2019 #15
It is desserts not deserts ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #17
Ha. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2019 #27
No, makin deserts is WAY more back-breaking work than makin desserts...they DESSERVE the higher wage InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #40
Crazy DIAMOND! ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #41
Shine on!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #42
Bernie is correct James48 Dec 2019 #16
BS is WRONG. Cha Dec 2019 #18
nope, we don't trueblue2007 Dec 2019 #26
Yep. Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #47
Without question...though, right now, there are at least 9 states, I think Joe could win vs Dolt45. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #39
Bernie thinks Republicans will vote for him and that before him Democrats had no ideas. betsuni Dec 2019 #19
I have talked to a number James48 Dec 2019 #35
The reality is that sanders will not be the nominee... thank goodness!! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #21
I handicap horses and I am really good ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #23
On a roll. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2019 #28
Thanks Sammy ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #29
I didn't bet on Bernie in 2016. John Fante Dec 2019 #43
LOL, exactly. If Bernie ran horses, he'd complain R B Garr Dec 2019 #49
I will not be voting for Bernie in the primary orangecrush Dec 2019 #30
What did you have for dinner? ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #33
Thank you for saying this. betsuni Dec 2019 #36
Most welcome! orangecrush Dec 2019 #38
Joe's response is classier than mine would've been. NBachers Dec 2019 #44
 

Cha

(296,875 posts)
1. lol.. perfect! This is what I had to say about BS'
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:03 AM
Dec 2019

"eat for lunch" insult..

1. NO, BS.. My God!.. there will be no "lunch eating" by trump.. he's a fucking traitor.. he gets no lunch.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=395699

Thank you, OldRed!

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,660 posts)
6. OMG! Wipe out!
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:23 AM
Dec 2019

Go Joe!





Excellent response.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,875 posts)
31. Mahalo, she! I don't know how
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:53 AM
Dec 2019

I missed your post before! little surfing lingo! lol

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,660 posts)
34. Those drummers were AbSoLuTeLy AMAZING.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:04 AM
Dec 2019

Joe is high on that wave.

Good job, Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
2. Clever and classy, as is typical with Joe
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:04 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

trueblue2007

(17,194 posts)
24. darn right JOE is clever AND classy !!!!!
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:36 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,875 posts)
4. The reporter asks.. ".. who trump?".. As IF!
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:21 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
5. I have to agree with Bernie on this.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:21 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,660 posts)
7. I have to agree with Joe on this.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:25 AM
Dec 2019


Boom!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
22. What a surprise
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:27 AM
Dec 2019


Is there anything you would disagree with him about?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
9. Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:35 AM
Dec 2019

While Biden has been gracious to Bernie, the fact of the matter is that Bernie happily engages in scorched earth campaigning. Biden is not the first, and not the last. This is why Bernie is bad for the Democratic party. He elevates himself by tearing everyone around him as noted in the following article tracing the Bernie campaigns early attacks on potential rivals.

https://gen.medium.com/bernie-sanders-bad-attitude-is-bad-for-democrats-and-great-for-trump-bd0ac7376146

I never caught Betomania, but it’s hard to ignore the larger, more obvious pattern — that this has happened to every candidate who has gathered enough buzz to pose a challenge to Sanders, deserving or not. I can believe that O’Rourke is a sizzle in search of a steak. But I find it harder to believe that O’Rourke is the face of Big Oil, and Elizabeth Warren embraces neoliberal capitalism at its most rapacious, and Kamala Harris is the carceral state incarnate, and Cory Booker is popular only due to racial tokenism, and Kirsten Gillibrand is in deep with Big Tobacco, and Amy Klobuchar, I don’t know, never brings a hot dish. They haven’t gotten to her yet.
The problem is not the reporting on these politicians’ individual sins, some of which is correct, and some of which, like Sirota’s freakout, is wildly exaggerated. It’s not even the “boy who cried wolf” quality of hearing so many similar denunciations in a row, though it is increasingly tough to take any one hit piece seriously. It’s the implication that these errors are unilaterally disqualifying and should outweigh any good the candidates might do. There is no acknowledgment, after 2016, of just how dangerous that attitude might be or of what other forces might be arrayed against the candidates in question. The decision to tie Gillibrand to the fact that she represented tobacco companies as a young lawyer, for example, took place before she called for Al Franken’s resignation and her candidacy was nuked from orbit by powerful donors. Sanders’ core supporters went for Gillibrand as hard as possible, right out of the gate, not realizing that institutional sexism would eventually do their work for them. Again.

The lingering anger many Clinton supporters feel at Sanders isn’t because he ran against her or because he ran with the goal of pushing her to the left. Again, many of the ideas Sanders has nudged into the American mainstream are good ones. That mistrust stems from how reckless Sanders was with the anger he riled up. Long after he knew he’d lost, he continued to call Clinton “unqualified” or insist she was the head of a massive conspiracy. He knew it could do no good, and he should have seen that the dangerous toll of his negative messaging — the death threats to Democratic Party officials and reporters, the demolished coalitions and names dragged through the mud, the ever-increasing threat that if there was no Bernie, the nation itself would bust — was rising. Yet he appeared shocked that he could not undo the damage; even Bernie Sanders got booed for not supporting Bernie Sanders.

To destroy one rival this way may be regarded as a misfortune. To destroy them all looks like carelessness. It looks like a candidate who has not yet learned to push his advantage in any other way than going negative, even though any of his rivals, should they defeat Sanders, will be the only protection we have against a second Trump term. To be clear: If Sanders is the nominee, I will vote for him. The good he might do outweighs the harm. It’s just not clear that Sanders knows how to say that about anyone else. The viciousness of the 2016 campaign may just have been a mistake, even if it was a bad one. If the pattern continues into 2020, we will have to call it something much worse.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
10. It's going to get really bad once voting begins.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:45 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
11. Bernie Will Go Scorched Earth Once It Is Down to Two People
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:53 AM
Dec 2019

You see Bernie ramping up his attacks on the "Democratic Establishment." Bernie is trying to poison the well and set it up so that he once again can claim that he was cheated if does not win the nomination or falls behind. This is why Fox News happily pushes Bernie's complaints about the "Democratic Establishment." Conversely, because he gets so much free airplay and attention from attacking Democrats, Bernie continues to do so. It is a vicious cycle.

Tulsi Gabbard is an example of someone who bought into the temptation of attacking Democrats Bernie style, but taking it even further.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to TomCADem (Reply #11)

 

onetexan

(13,024 posts)
20. Agree. BS always sounds like an angry uncle.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:10 AM
Dec 2019

His pie in rhe sky message doesnt cut it for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(17,194 posts)
25. Bernie Will Go Scorched Earth Once It Is Down to Two People .... just like he did in 2016
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:38 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
45. I tend to agree, if he gets into a one v two race, it'll be even worse
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 04:27 AM
Dec 2019

than the 2016 primary. At least if it's Biden v Warren, it should be somewhat lessened, although I could see Warren being attacked viciously for "betrayal" as they'd see it.

Not a pleasant time ahead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,660 posts)
12. Holy shit.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:01 AM
Dec 2019
I can believe that O’Rourke is a sizzle in search of a steak. But I find it harder to believe that O’Rourke is the face of Big Oil, and Elizabeth Warren embraces neoliberal capitalism at its most rapacious, and Kamala Harris is the carceral state incarnate, and Cory Booker is popular only due to racial tokenism, and Kirsten Gillibrand is in deep with Big Tobacco, and Amy Klobuchar, I don’t know, never brings a hot dish.


The problem is not the reporting on these politicians’ individual sins, some of which is correct, and some of which, like Sirota’s freakout, is wildly exaggerated.


Why is he doing this?

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Cha

(296,875 posts)
32. Hope it
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:55 AM
Dec 2019

Backfires!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
48. Thanks for this. It's obvious why Bernie needs to attack
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 09:15 AM
Dec 2019

Democrats and why he is detested for it. We don’t need this sabotage yet again.

Perfect response from Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
13. That is a pretty good line.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:11 AM
Dec 2019

Joe keeping it real. Joe did amazing in the debate with Paul Ryan, IIRC.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
15. Bernie would refuse
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:46 AM
Dec 2019

because the people who make deserts should be making $30 per hour and he stands in solidarity with cake makers

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
17. It is desserts not deserts
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:49 AM
Dec 2019

Don't quit your day job

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
40. No, makin deserts is WAY more back-breaking work than makin desserts...they DESSERVE the higher wage
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:41 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
42. Shine on!!!
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:49 AM
Dec 2019



Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

James48

(4,428 posts)
16. Bernie is correct
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:47 AM
Dec 2019

If Biden is nominated, Trump will be re-elected.

We need BERNIE!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(296,875 posts)
18. BS is WRONG.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:50 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
39. Without question...though, right now, there are at least 9 states, I think Joe could win vs Dolt45.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:34 AM
Dec 2019

That number might improve over time... fortunately, however, Bernie WILL BE the Democratic nominee and sworn into office as our next President.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

betsuni

(25,380 posts)
19. Bernie thinks Republicans will vote for him and that before him Democrats had no ideas.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:58 AM
Dec 2019

"So if you're a conservative Republican, you want health care. If you're a conservative Republican, you want to be able to send your kid to college. And I think the issues that we have been talking about in this campaign ... those issues have resonated with the American people. And in fact ... they have become kind of mainstream now at least in the Democratic Party, when they were seen as pretty out there four yeas ago. So I think when you talk about raising the minimum wage, when I think you talk about making educational opportunities available to all regardless of income, where you're talking about cancelling student debt, when you talk about health care for all as a human right, Medicare for all, when you talk about climate change, criminal justice reform, immigration reform, sensible gun policy in this country, a woman's right to control her own body and many other issues, those issues do resonate with a whole lot of Americans and we bring those people together around those issues."

How many times do we have to say that universal health care, higher wages and worker's rights, affordable education, climate change, immigration reform, criminal justice reform, gun control, pro choice ARE ALL DEMOCRATIC IDEAS. No, Republicans did not vote for Trump because of economic hardship and Democrats ignoring them. How many times.

"I don't believe that the [way to win] this election is to just speak to Republican women in the suburbs. That's one theory. And I think many of those women will vote for me, because they are appalled ... about Trump's personal behavior and his temperament. I think we can win many of them. Not all of them. But on the other hand, the key to this election is can we get millions of young people who have never voted before into the political process, many working people who understand that Trump is a fraud, can we get them voting? ... But my God, if you're a Donald Trump and you got Biden having voted for the war in Iraq, Biden having voted for these terrible ... trade agreements, Biden having voted for the bankruptcy bill. Trump will eat his lunch."

What?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

James48

(4,428 posts)
35. I have talked to a number
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:10 AM
Dec 2019

Of republicans who have said that they
Seriously consider Voting for Bernie.

He is popular with many republicans I know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,715 posts)
21. The reality is that sanders will not be the nominee... thank goodness!!
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:13 AM
Dec 2019

Polls, poll averages, endorsements numbers don’t add up for sanders, but.... his supporters just don’t see it.

From here on du where he polls at 8%, to 15-16% with AA voters, poll averages that show him behind by double digits.

Biden is right, he will be the one to end the madness and still be gracious enough to invite the independent senator from VT for lunch... or dessert

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
23. I handicap horses and I am really good
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:31 AM
Dec 2019

You sound like the people who bet on chalk, guess what, they lose quite often. But keep eating chalk. Magic 8 ball!

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John Fante

(3,479 posts)
43. I didn't bet on Bernie in 2016.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:53 AM
Dec 2019

Guess what? I won. The Bernie Brahs? Not so much.

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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
49. LOL, exactly. If Bernie ran horses, he'd complain
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 09:19 AM
Dec 2019

everything was rigged.

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Joe Biden
 

orangecrush

(19,434 posts)
30. I will not be voting for Bernie in the primary
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:52 AM
Dec 2019

I donated a lot (for me) of money to Bernie before the last primary.

I voted for Hillary in the election.

I now wish I had put all my effort behind Hillary from the get go.

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
33. What did you have for dinner?
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:00 AM
Dec 2019

I don't think anyone cares.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

betsuni

(25,380 posts)
36. Thank you for saying this.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:13 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NBachers

(17,082 posts)
44. Joe's response is classier than mine would've been.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:59 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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