Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)"eat for lunch" insult..
1. NO, BS.. My God!.. there will be no "lunch eating" by trump.. he's a fucking traitor.. he gets no lunch.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=395699
Thank you, OldRed!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,660 posts)Go Joe!
Excellent response.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)I missed your post before! little surfing lingo! lol
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,660 posts)Joe is high on that wave.
Good job, Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
trueblue2007
(17,194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,943 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,660 posts)Boom!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Is there anything you would disagree with him about?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,660 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,382 posts)While Biden has been gracious to Bernie, the fact of the matter is that Bernie happily engages in scorched earth campaigning. Biden is not the first, and not the last. This is why Bernie is bad for the Democratic party. He elevates himself by tearing everyone around him as noted in the following article tracing the Bernie campaigns early attacks on potential rivals.
https://gen.medium.com/bernie-sanders-bad-attitude-is-bad-for-democrats-and-great-for-trump-bd0ac7376146
The problem is not the reporting on these politicians individual sins, some of which is correct, and some of which, like Sirotas freakout, is wildly exaggerated. Its not even the boy who cried wolf quality of hearing so many similar denunciations in a row, though it is increasingly tough to take any one hit piece seriously. Its the implication that these errors are unilaterally disqualifying and should outweigh any good the candidates might do. There is no acknowledgment, after 2016, of just how dangerous that attitude might be or of what other forces might be arrayed against the candidates in question. The decision to tie Gillibrand to the fact that she represented tobacco companies as a young lawyer, for example, took place before she called for Al Frankens resignation and her candidacy was nuked from orbit by powerful donors. Sanders core supporters went for Gillibrand as hard as possible, right out of the gate, not realizing that institutional sexism would eventually do their work for them. Again.
The lingering anger many Clinton supporters feel at Sanders isnt because he ran against her or because he ran with the goal of pushing her to the left. Again, many of the ideas Sanders has nudged into the American mainstream are good ones. That mistrust stems from how reckless Sanders was with the anger he riled up. Long after he knew hed lost, he continued to call Clinton unqualified or insist she was the head of a massive conspiracy. He knew it could do no good, and he should have seen that the dangerous toll of his negative messaging the death threats to Democratic Party officials and reporters, the demolished coalitions and names dragged through the mud, the ever-increasing threat that if there was no Bernie, the nation itself would bust was rising. Yet he appeared shocked that he could not undo the damage; even Bernie Sanders got booed for not supporting Bernie Sanders.
To destroy one rival this way may be regarded as a misfortune. To destroy them all looks like carelessness. It looks like a candidate who has not yet learned to push his advantage in any other way than going negative, even though any of his rivals, should they defeat Sanders, will be the only protection we have against a second Trump term. To be clear: If Sanders is the nominee, I will vote for him. The good he might do outweighs the harm. Its just not clear that Sanders knows how to say that about anyone else. The viciousness of the 2016 campaign may just have been a mistake, even if it was a bad one. If the pattern continues into 2020, we will have to call it something much worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,382 posts)You see Bernie ramping up his attacks on the "Democratic Establishment." Bernie is trying to poison the well and set it up so that he once again can claim that he was cheated if does not win the nomination or falls behind. This is why Fox News happily pushes Bernie's complaints about the "Democratic Establishment." Conversely, because he gets so much free airplay and attention from attacking Democrats, Bernie continues to do so. It is a vicious cycle.
Tulsi Gabbard is an example of someone who bought into the temptation of attacking Democrats Bernie style, but taking it even further.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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onetexan
(13,024 posts)His pie in rhe sky message doesnt cut it for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,217 posts)Geez... 🤭
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)than the 2016 primary. At least if it's Biden v Warren, it should be somewhat lessened, although I could see Warren being attacked viciously for "betrayal" as they'd see it.
Not a pleasant time ahead.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,660 posts)Why is he doing this?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Backfires!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Democrats and why he is detested for it. We dont need this sabotage yet again.
Perfect response from Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)Joe keeping it real. Joe did amazing in the debate with Paul Ryan, IIRC.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)because the people who make deserts should be making $30 per hour and he stands in solidarity with cake makers
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Don't quit your day job
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
James48
(4,428 posts)If Biden is nominated, Trump will be re-elected.
We need BERNIE!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,875 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)We do!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)That number might improve over time... fortunately, however, Bernie WILL BE the Democratic nominee and sworn into office as our next President.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,380 posts)"So if you're a conservative Republican, you want health care. If you're a conservative Republican, you want to be able to send your kid to college. And I think the issues that we have been talking about in this campaign ... those issues have resonated with the American people. And in fact ... they have become kind of mainstream now at least in the Democratic Party, when they were seen as pretty out there four yeas ago. So I think when you talk about raising the minimum wage, when I think you talk about making educational opportunities available to all regardless of income, where you're talking about cancelling student debt, when you talk about health care for all as a human right, Medicare for all, when you talk about climate change, criminal justice reform, immigration reform, sensible gun policy in this country, a woman's right to control her own body and many other issues, those issues do resonate with a whole lot of Americans and we bring those people together around those issues."
How many times do we have to say that universal health care, higher wages and worker's rights, affordable education, climate change, immigration reform, criminal justice reform, gun control, pro choice ARE ALL DEMOCRATIC IDEAS. No, Republicans did not vote for Trump because of economic hardship and Democrats ignoring them. How many times.
"I don't believe that the [way to win] this election is to just speak to Republican women in the suburbs. That's one theory. And I think many of those women will vote for me, because they are appalled ... about Trump's personal behavior and his temperament. I think we can win many of them. Not all of them. But on the other hand, the key to this election is can we get millions of young people who have never voted before into the political process, many working people who understand that Trump is a fraud, can we get them voting? ... But my God, if you're a Donald Trump and you got Biden having voted for the war in Iraq, Biden having voted for these terrible ... trade agreements, Biden having voted for the bankruptcy bill. Trump will eat his lunch."
What?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
James48
(4,428 posts)Of republicans who have said that they
Seriously consider Voting for Bernie.
He is popular with many republicans I know.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,715 posts)Polls, poll averages, endorsements numbers dont add up for sanders, but.... his supporters just dont see it.
From here on du where he polls at 8%, to 15-16% with AA voters, poll averages that show him behind by double digits.
Biden is right, he will be the one to end the madness and still be gracious enough to invite the independent senator from VT for lunch... or dessert
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)You sound like the people who bet on chalk, guess what, they lose quite often. But keep eating chalk. Magic 8 ball!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Guess what? I won. The Bernie Brahs? Not so much.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)everything was rigged.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
orangecrush
(19,434 posts)I donated a lot (for me) of money to Bernie before the last primary.
I voted for Hillary in the election.
I now wish I had put all my effort behind Hillary from the get go.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)I don't think anyone cares.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,380 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
orangecrush
(19,434 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NBachers
(17,082 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden