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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:51 PM Dec 2019

As Evangelicals Flee Trump, Biden Pens Beautiful Commentary On His Faith 😎

As criticism of Trump’s immoral presidency grows in the evangelical press, former Vice President Biden has penned a beautiful commentary on his faith.

Biden wrote for the Religion News Service:

My faith teaches me that we should be a nation where the hard-working, middle-class families who’ve made us strong have a real chance to thrive. That’s why I’ll make sure that we reward work, not just wealth, in our policies and in our values. I’ll make sure that we provide every family with access to fair wages, quality health care, good neighborhood schools and a stable retirement.

And my faith teaches me that we should be a nation that once again welcomes the stranger and shows a preferential option for the poor, remembering how so many of us and our ancestors came here in a similar way. I’ll end Trump’s abhorrent asylum policies, protect “Dreamers” and provide a road map to citizenship for the nearly 11 million undocumented people living in and contributing to our communities every day.

Trump doesn’t understand these things, because he doesn’t understand America. He doesn’t know what it means to live for or believe in something bigger than himself.

In 2020, we need a candidate who can not only beat Trump at the ballot box, but a leader who can heal and unite our divided country to get things done.

Thank-you Joe...so true as I & hubby would only feel safe with you as president...

Our opinion...😎






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As Evangelicals Flee Trump, Biden Pens Beautiful Commentary On His Faith 😎 (Original Post) Iamaartist Dec 2019 OP
Thank you for this, Iamaartist! Cha Dec 2019 #1
Thank- you.. Cha.... Iamaartist Dec 2019 #3
As a person of faith, I really like this essay Gothmog Dec 2019 #2
Thank-you Joe..... Iamaartist Dec 2019 #4
Beautiful! Send a tweet version out tomorrow to say at the end... MartyTheGreek Dec 2019 #5
Thank-you for your kind words...😊 Iamaartist Dec 2019 #6
Yeah. We need a healer. calimary Dec 2019 #7
Speaking only for myself, I am not happy with evocations of faith in politics. NNadir Dec 2019 #8
Thank you. dflprincess Dec 2019 #10
The prohibit against a religious test in the Constitution TomSlick Dec 2019 #15
As it happens, Biden and I were raised in the same faith dflprincess Dec 2019 #17
I did not learn from the Sisters. I learned from Sunday School ladies. TomSlick Dec 2019 #18
I was taught we would make our beliefs known by our deeds, not our words dflprincess Dec 2019 #19
Guess you better tell warren the same Iamaartist Dec 2019 #23
I have to agree. I wish NOBODY would say such things like.... pangaia Dec 2019 #11
Until the present evil is no longer in control of the Senate MarcA Dec 2019 #13
I appreciate his sentiment and am glad to see it. But remember this: Grammy23 Dec 2019 #9
My opinion... Iamaartist Dec 2019 #12
Evangelicals care about one thing -- anti-abortion judges. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2019 #14
K&R nt NYMinute Dec 2019 #16
I'd like to see some evidence that the Evangelicals are fleeing Trump. Mariana Dec 2019 #20
I think we have to give up on these hard core Evangelicals... CTyankee Dec 2019 #21
Thank you Vice President Biden! AllyCat Dec 2019 #22
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
1. Thank you for this, Iamaartist!
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 04:59 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
3. Thank- you.. Cha....
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:20 PM
Dec 2019

Not only our nation but Joe has the experience.across the world...what Trump had destroyed our country and around the world from our own experience we have family around the world...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
2. As a person of faith, I really like this essay
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:00 PM
Dec 2019

As a person of faith, I really like this essay




In 2020, we must decide: Who do we want to be?

My faith teaches me that we should be a nation that not only accepts the truth of the climate crisis, but leads the world in addressing it. Pope Francis is right in “Laudato Si’”: “Never have we so hurt and mistreated our common home as we have in the last two hundred years." As president, I’ll launch a $1.7 trillion clean energy revolution to reach net-zero emissions by 2050, creating 10 million jobs and starting to heal our imperiled planet.

My faith teaches me that we should be a nation where the hard-working, middle-class families who’ve made us strong have a real chance to thrive. That’s why I’ll make sure that we reward work, not just wealth, in our policies and in our values. I’ll make sure that we provide every family with access to fair wages, quality health care, good neighborhood schools and a stable retirement.

And my faith teaches me that we should be a nation that once again welcomes the stranger and shows a preferential option for the poor, remembering how so many of us and our ancestors came here in a similar way. I’ll end Trump’s abhorrent asylum policies, protect “Dreamers” and provide a road map to citizenship for the nearly 11 million undocumented people living in and contributing to our communities every day.

Trump doesn’t understand these things, because he doesn’t understand America. He doesn’t know what it means to live for or believe in something bigger than himself.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
4. Thank-you Joe.....
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 05:43 PM
Dec 2019

The horrifying rise of antisemitism is tearing apart the fabric of our communities and the soul of this nation. We've got to stand together as a country and fight these flames of hatred.

My deepest sympathies are with the victims, their families, and the Jewish community








If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
5. Beautiful! Send a tweet version out tomorrow to say at the end...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:11 PM
Dec 2019

"...a leader who can heal and unite our divided country and get back to restoring our shared Democracy!"

Shared goes back to the first part of the letter, and restoring Democracy is what everyone is thinking about after this mess. Joe Biden looks like he can steer the course!

No affiliations, just a poster here.

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Undecided
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
6. Thank-you for your kind words...😊
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:31 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calimary

(81,220 posts)
7. Yeah. We need a healer.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:37 PM
Dec 2019

We’re going to need a lot of healing after being so battered and abused by trump & comp. he strikes me as having the kind of compassion and kindness that a good, loving dad would have. He’s weathered some dreadful storms. That’s what builds character, and a sense of genuine empathy. He has a heart and you can tell.

I think that’s what we all need at this point, if we’re going to recover from trump.

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NNadir

(33,512 posts)
8. Speaking only for myself, I am not happy with evocations of faith in politics.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:47 PM
Dec 2019

Many of the problems in this country can be traced to the injection of religion into politics.

I like Joe Biden, but I wish he wouldn't do this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
10. Thank you.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:51 PM
Dec 2019

The Constitution says there shall be no religious test for office and I'm tired of politicians pandering to religious zealots.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
15. The prohibit against a religious test in the Constitution
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:04 PM
Dec 2019

prohibits a requirement that a person claim a given religion in order to hold office. It does not prohibit office holders from adhering to a religion or referencing their beliefs in public statements. If the religious test clause had been intended to prohibit office holders from making public statements concerning their religious beliefs, it would have been superseded by the First Amendment.

For religious people, their religious beliefs can be central to their political ideology. For such people, their political positions will not be lightly abandoned. For example, I conclude that the political positions of VP Biden and Mayor Buttigieg are grounded in their sincerely held religious beliefs and are unlikely to be abandoned for short-term political advantage. Similarly, Hillary Clinton often made it clear that her politics were deeply influenced by her Methodist beliefs.

Whether a politician's political ideology is framed by their religion, personal or family history, or simply their considered positions, we need to know both their ideology and its foundation. Politicians informing voters of the religious underpinnings of their politics is not pandering. Rather, it is simply providing helpful information.

I appreciate that many here have a deep distrust of religion - all religions. However, the Constitution no more favors misotheism than it does any form of theism.

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dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
17. As it happens, Biden and I were raised in the same faith
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 10:41 PM
Dec 2019

and while I am no longer especially active in that faith, I have said that the nuns who pounded the Acts of Mercy into my head who helped make me a liberal.

I don't distrust religion as much as I distrust politicians (or anyone else for that matter) who feel they must tell us all about their "deeply held beliefs".

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TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
18. I did not learn from the Sisters. I learned from Sunday School ladies.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 11:07 PM
Dec 2019

I learned from the Sunday School ladies - and I suspect VP Biden probably learned from the Sisters - that the faith teaches an obligation to tell others about our "deeply held beliefs."

I am thankful for the Sisters in your life and the Sunday School ladies in mine who actually taught us the obligation for mercy.

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dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
19. I was taught we would make our beliefs known by our deeds, not our words
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 11:14 PM
Dec 2019

and it would be our acts we would be judged on, no matter how deeply held we claimed the beliefs to be.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
23. Guess you better tell warren the same
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 11:18 AM
Dec 2019
https://www.thelily.com/elizabeth-warren-talked-about-how-faith-shapes-her-liberal-politics-heres-why-that-was-a-good-move/



What Warren said she learned from the Bible
The Oklahoma native said she was raised Methodist and taught Sunday school to elementary school students. Then, she mentioned her favorite Bible passage, the parable of the sheep and the goats. In the passage, Jesus urges his followers to care for the marginalized, saying, “When you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.”
If I were to vote in a presidential
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
11. I have to agree. I wish NOBODY would say such things like....
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:53 PM
Dec 2019
"My faith teaches me..." or something like that.

Or.. "Scripture is clear: It’s not enough to just wish the world were better. It’s our duty to make it so."

NOBODY needs religion to tell them that, or to tell them right from wrong....

Certainly not Joe Biden. He's a descent person. knows on his own....

He even goes into that... his upbringing....


Frankly, and this has nothing to do with Biden, I almost vomit when I hear ANYBODY refer to S-C-R-I-P-T-U-R-E- !
As YuiYoshida might say GAH !!!!!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
13. Until the present evil is no longer in control of the Senate
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:45 PM
Dec 2019

the pros and cons of statements of faith are largely academic for any Democratic Candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
9. I appreciate his sentiment and am glad to see it. But remember this:
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 06:50 PM
Dec 2019

This will take hard work and many discussions. We are a nation with a significant number of us who responded to tRump and his hateful rhetoric. They embraced the ugly message he spewed. We can blame the Russians for polluting the messages prior to the election and in the months following the (s)election of tRump. But lots of people turned out to see him and hear him and voted for him because they liked his message. I’ll give some of them the benefit of the doubt that he KNEW how to appeal to their fears and prejudices. But this won’t be easy to get his supporters to see why they are wrong and the message is not who we should aspire to be. They need to feel ashamed, but will they? I truly hope some of them can be honest with themselves enough to admit how they were charmed and misled by a charlatan like tRump. If that happens they will turn on him. I live for THAT day ....to see him have to experience his massive fall.
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
12. My opinion...
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:28 PM
Dec 2019

When there is such a shooting in any faith a president has to respond to it ...we have a right to freedom of religion in America without being attack for who are..and thats his way to express it fine with me....

If I were to vote in a presidential
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14. Evangelicals care about one thing -- anti-abortion judges.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:49 PM
Dec 2019

Separate kids from their families and put them in cages; let the homeless sleep on the street (just not in my neighborhood); eliminate food subsidies for hundreds of thousands of families; destroy the air, water, earth and animals God alledgedly created; use blasphemy and profanity in your speech; welcome white nationalists and war criminals; encourage ethnic cleansing by deserting your allies in the name of profits; eschew justice for one of your citizens in favor of your authoritarian friends. None of this matters. All that matters is the promise to appoint only judges with anti-abortion views.

It's impossible to spell "evangelical" without "hypocritical."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
20. I'd like to see some evidence that the Evangelicals are fleeing Trump.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 11:49 PM
Dec 2019

We have a couple of essays by an editor who's due to retire in January. We have one guy who resigned from another magazine. It's a bit much to extrapolate from that the Evangelicals are fleeing Trump. As far as I know, every poll on the matter has said that their support for him is as strong as ever.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
21. I think we have to give up on these hard core Evangelicals...
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 03:33 AM
Dec 2019

we've got plenty of mines of voters that we can energize and vote Dem if we excite them. That works better than beating our brains out for the Evangelical vote (which we'll never get).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

AllyCat

(16,178 posts)
22. Thank you Vice President Biden!
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 10:53 AM
Dec 2019

Well said!

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