Democratic insiders: Bernie could win the nomination

[JoeOtterbein]

His resiliency in the primary has caught the attention of the party establishment.

Politico

By HOLLY OTTERBEIN and DAVID SIDERS

12/26/2019 05:04 AM EST

Suddenly, Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign is being taken seriously.

For months, the Vermont senator was written off by Democratic Party insiders as a candidate with a committed but narrow base who was too far left to win the primary. Elizabeth Warren had skyrocketed in the polls and seemed to be leaving him behind in the race to be progressive voters’ standard-bearer in 2020.

But in the past few weeks, something has changed. In private conversations and on social media, Democratic officials, political operatives and pundits are reconsidering Sanders’ chances.


“It may have been inevitable that eventually you would have two candidates representing each side of the ideological divide in the party. A lot of smart people I’ve talked to lately think there’s a very good chance those two end up being Biden and Sanders,” said David Brock, a longtime Hillary Clinton ally who founded a pro-Clinton super PAC in the 2016 campaign. “They’ve both proven to be very resilient.”

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[DavidDvorkin]

1. It doesn't matter how often a foolish article is posted

It remains a foolish article.

[Thekaspervote]

8. Thank you! I've seen this "foolish" article at least 6-8 times. And no it doesn't move the dial

[vsrazdem]

15. Can't a proud dad show off his daughter's article, jeeze louise people. Pretty sad.

[LanternWaste]

18. Just call it "Vetting." That seems to be the go-to label for posting the same article over and over.

But I get it... personal and familial appeals are what the primaries are all about: pretending one thing, doing another, calling it a third.

[vsrazdem]

63. Like I said, SAD.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. VERY SAD, but if it's the post of an article bashing Bernie, post it as many times as you want NP!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[corbettkroehler]

73. Tell It To The Wall Street Journal

The article was posted multiple times here on DU because MULTIPLE respected sites ran it, including the Wall Street Journal.

Link to tweet

This multiplicity was so newsworthy that CNN followed up with 2-minute report during Inside Politics.

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

20. The article was wrong the first couple of times it was posted

The article is still wrong

[BannonsLiver]

24. Bravo

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. If you are correct and I will assume you are, then reposting this over and over

is meant to sow discord here, meant to PURPOSELY start arguments.

That is bad.

[DavidDvorkin]

32. That's an uncomfortable thought.

[DemocracyMouse]

2. Yeah, let's get back to rigging the system with fancy wine parties for wealthy donors

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

3. Hats off to the Otterbeins 4 reporting Bernie COULD win the nomination,but truth is he WILL win it!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[dware]

38. I can hardly wait until the primaries are over,

Joe Biden is our nominee and watch you eating crow for dinner.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. Just wow...glad your having such a good laugh & would take such joy in seein a fellow Duer in pain

if that hypothetical scenario were to occur, which it won't.

It wouldn't even occur to me to do that when Bernie wins the nomination, especially when it should be a time for healing and uniting against our common enemy who current occupyies the White House

So long... hope you have a Happier New Year.





Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[dware]

51. What fellow DUer is in pain?

If you want to hang your hat on BS winning the nomination, then have at it, but come the convention, Joe Biden will become our nominee, no if's, and's or but's about it and when that happens, I do sincerely hope that all Democrats will come together, along with a goodly amount of independents and repubs, and vote this most qualified man into office.

Hope you and yours have a very Happy New Year.

[TexasTowelie]

82. Hey, I was offered to drink a glass of contaminated water from Flint by another DUer yesterday.

Later, that poster claimed it was sarcasm. When I replied to that poster that I did not take the message kindly, instead of an apology or retraction they double-downed on their remark about how "well-placed" their sarcasm was.

Don't feel like you are the only member here that is being subjected to hateful remarks.

[TexasTowelie]

4. Or it could all be over in early March

if Biden meets up to performance expectations in the South.

[msongs]

5. my neighbor could be the next beatles or beyonce nt

[onetexan]

6. A word: NO

[DemocracyMouse]

34. Is that the establishment "No" or the meme version?

Either way it's smug and only highlights our need to move out of the muck of the establishment and into a brighter, more intelligent future.

[onetexan]

36. Neither. Its my NO to a guy whose not a Democrat.

[DemocracyMouse]

37. He's a democratic socialist. Think.

[onetexan]

50. U think. Whatever Dem socialist is i dont subscribe to it.

[MuseRider]

66. Seriously?

Did you really mean to imply the poster above you think when you follow that with a statement that lets everyone know that you do not know what something is but you do not subscribe to it?

Whoosh!

[onetexan]

67. Puleez, go whoosh yourself

[MuseRider]

68. I'm sorry.

It just sounded so, I don't know, man on the street?

[DemocracyMouse]

69. If something is undefined (i.e. "whatever") then it's impossible to make a conclusion about it

So look up democratic socialist and then join the discussion. I'm happy to hear your informed thoughts

[onetexan]

70. Not interested in carrying on about a pie-in-the-sky idea i dont subscribe to

So no need to keep trying to engage me. Have a good day.

[DemocracyMouse]

72. Those ideas are traditional Democratic. Read history.

[onetexan]

74. Mind your own beeswax. Apparently you did not read my "i do not wish to engage" mention.

[onetexan]

89. Note i've reported your post. Don't assume people don't read when they don't subscribe to your views

Whose the one being smallminded now?

[stopdiggin]

7. a resilient campaign (and campaigner), yes.

and Sanders' support is solid. I just don't happen to think there is enough of it. And (IMO) Sanders doesn't pick up a lot of numbers from other campaigns as they leave the field (i.e. they go elsewhere)

[Thekaspervote]

9. Correct! Pollls show warren supporters 2nd choice is almost equally split between BS and Joe

Leaving them in almost the same position.

Sanders will NOT be the nominee! Yeah!

[DemocracyMouse]

35. Why so gleeful? This isn't a football game.

[comradebillyboy]

19. The whole idea of outreach seems to be an alien concept for

the Sanders campaign. They just refuse to broaden their appeal.

[R B Garr]

22. "Outreach" -- maybe it means using resources you haven't

paid for while claiming the system is rigged against you.

[LeftTurn3623]

10. I wish EW would drop out in a lot of ways

The. Bernie’s Numbers would jump up

What’s amazing about Bernie is how young people love him.

[BannonsLiver]

25. So why aren't you supporting him then?

Doesn’t feel like there’s much love for Pete in that post,

[LeftTurn3623]

46. I like a lot of the candidates

I live in PA so it will be awhile before I get to vote

Right now my strategy is whoever is closest to being the nominee other than Biden I probably will support. ( other than the 2 billionaires)

With that said I do also like Biden. I saw him speak in West York HS, york Pa during Obama’s first run. So I would gladly vote for Biden if he became the nominee.

I just think Pete is the smartest person. I like that he is young and hungry. He understands common sense. I think he would do a great job.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. I just look forward to when Bernie & Elizabeth unite, regardless of who is Prez & who is VP...

it would make for a truly remarkable, powerful team!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[LeftTurn3623]

45. I have no issues with Bernie

And would be happy with him as the nominee

[Lucky Luciano]

11. The tone from some posters is that they'd vote third party over Bernie! SMDH

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

59. Yup yup and not just in tone either...some flat out say they won't vote for Bernie

How crazy is that?!?!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[redstateblues]

77. Sadly, Bernie's self avowed moniker "Socialist" will drive some voters to third parties.

I don't like it but I know some folks that feel that way.

[TexasTowelie]

84. Fortunately, people in real life aren't bound by certain requirements. nt

[machI]

12. Brokered convention

On the third round, Bernie Sanders' position will be stronger than the others.

[PhoenixDem]

17. In my best Foghorn Leghorn voice ....

"You gawt eeet awl wrrrrrong suuuun, there ain't gunna be no brokerud convintion"

[BannonsLiver]

27. Dream

[TexasTowelie]

76. No.

Bernie has bernt his bridges with the superdelegates. If the Democrats nominate Bernie, then they lose the general election by a substantial margin.

[redstateblues]

78. It would be more than substantial. More like a landslide

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

85. DAMN RIGHT! That's what happens when a candidate like Bernie represents the best interests

of the working class.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[George II]

13. Again?

[Hortensis]

14. :) 8% on DU. Frenetic passion still just equals 1 vote.

Imo, you need to look up and remind yourself of the goal: Taking control of government away from the Republicans so Democrats can do all the things you want.

Like Sanders all you want, just don't get so invested in one person. He's NOT the goal.

[PhoenixDem]

16. bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Desperation is driving multiple OPs on this article by sycophants who break the tenet of objective journalism in order to follow the messianic cluster of other sycophants.

[RandiFan1290]

47. Buh bye

[Hassin Bin Sober]

53. Lol.

[Gothmog]

21. This makes me smile

Link to tweet

[TidalWave46]

23. Article misses the mark by a mile. NT

[brutus smith]

28. Is it true that Joe said he would consider a Repub to be his running mate?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/12/30/election-2020-joe-biden-says-he-would-consider-republican-running-mate/2777130001/

[KPN]

30. Yes ... in response to a lkeading question. But he also said in almost the same breath that he

couldn't think of a Republican he would choose at the moment (thank God!).

[KPN]

29. Feeling masochistic or is it just mischievous today Joe? Good article. Nice to see it again.

I do believe Bernie stands a chance -- both to take the nomination and the GE. He certainly has a strong base of loyal support and speaks to the common people better and more effectively than just about anyone else. It's his consistency, authenticity and persistence -- not just the message. He has moved the entire party in the past 5 years toward his end of the spectrum, not because of his views, but because of a massive and an ever growing number of peoples' views.

Frankly, the "establishment" exists in any large organization and always seeks to sustain itself, to survive, to maintain its control. Sanders has challenged that within the Democratic Party. He has done what literally millions hoped someone would eventually do. It's actually refreshing that some within the party establishment actually recognizes this as well as his resilience. It means progress and hope.

[JoeOtterbein]

33. Me? Always a bit mischievous everday!

Thanks. Bernie will pull it out in the end. It will not be easy, but Bernie will be our 46th POTUS.

[dware]

39. All I have to say to this post is

[Hav]

55. Bernie pulling it out in the end

and it won't be easy...that's not an image I needed.

[dware]

56. Just not going to happen,

and even if by some miracle he did, we would end up with that Mango Menace for another 4 years,
the country is by far, center left, and BS is a far left socialist, hell, he's not even a Democrat, he's using the label to further his ambitions.

Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think I'm pretty close to the mark.

Happy New Year to you and yours.

[Hav]

61. Happy new year to you, too

And I don't think Bernie will win. I was only making a dumb joke about the post that included wording about an almost 80 year old pulling out. I thought that is why you responded with the rolling on the floor smilie.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. WITHOUT QUESTION!! BERNIE KNOWS IT'S A MARATHON, NOT A SPRINT!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[TexasTowelie]

83. Bernie has been part of Congress for nearly thirty years.

He is as "establishment" as it comes.

[KPN]

86. Not true. His views on economic policy and

wars have been conspicuously different from Democratic Party leadership throughout his career. “Establishment” isn’t a date or defined simply by longevity. Centrist philosophy has never been part of Sanders’ policy positions, to some extent if not principally because it’s a misnomer and a euphemism by effect.

[TexasTowelie]

87. .

[awesomerwb1]

31. Politico .....again?

[jcmaine72]

40. No one can predict the future, but one thing is for certain....

If Bernie did the win the nomination, DU would instantly become the most interesting website (to say the least) on the web, especially the first week following his victory. I wouldn't miss it for the world. I mean, there's so much love here for Bernie as it is. It'll be like Woodstock all over again.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

44. WOODSTOCK!! LMFAO... I WAS THERE!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[dware]

54. I wasn't,

I was fighting for my life in the jungles of VN, but my younger bro was and he said it was quite the experience, one which he would love to repeat.

[redstateblues]

79. won't happen

[betsuni]

48. "the ideological divide in the party" does not exist.

Bullshit.

[myohmy2]

49. "Suddenly, Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign is being taken seriously."

...and now in begins in earnest…

...vicious attacks, innuendos, false claims, warnings and threats, fearmongering and downright hatred by some...

...do you know what?

...it doesn't matter because we the people have seen it all before...

...do you feel the Bern?...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

57. "we the people have seen it all before"... yes we have myohmy & this time...

WE'RE READY FOR IT AND WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST SIT BACK AND TAKE IT!! OH YEAH... I FEEL THE BERN ALRIGHT!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[redstateblues]

81. Projection much? Have you read Sirota's latest re tweet of Biden's doctored quote?

[Peacetrain]

52. Well anything is possible I guess.. don't see it.. but hey I have been wrong before

[samnsara]

58. i dunno......

[nini]

62. not so sure about that.

[corbettkroehler]

64. Doesn't Move The Dial? It Moved CNN's Dial!

Attention cynics: the quoted article was FAR FROM TRIVIAL. Does it move the dial? Well, the article was ONE OF SEVERAL posted at around the same time.

These facts generated enough buzz that CNN ran a 2-minute piece on it during Inside Politics.

Link to tweet

[JoeOtterbein]

65. Saw that and MSNBC too!

Thanks!

[BooScout]

71. *snort*

[MineralMan]

75. No, I think not.

His staff appears to be sabotaging his campaign recently.

[honest.abe]

80. Bernie cannnot win because he will never be able to connect with AA voters.

It's as simple as that.