My lifelong Republcan mother just called

[evertonfc]

She is 70. A lifelong Republican. Never voted for a Democrat. She's white, has a Master's in Nursing and an amazing grandmother to my 18 yo HS senior. She said she is so alarmed by this Iran conflict and her grandsons future that she is going to vote for Joe Biden. She said she couldn't support "any of the the rest of them because they are too far left". Now...she knows I supported Bernie in 2016 and I'm a pretty liberal guy but I told her that's ok, I understand and Joe will be alright.

[Stuart G]

1. Thank You for the post...K and R

[magicarpet]

2. Yey Mom !

[Thekaspervote]

3. Hearing and seeing this a lot since this terrible war escalating event

[LakeArenal]

4. I'm worried for her grandsons as well.

Those Republicans send other people’s children to fight their illegal wars.

And preform their war crimes.

[StClone]

8. And profit from it

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. Why would a nurse be a Republican?

I have a cousin who's a nurse (only she's more like 52, not 70) and she has just posted something on FB that reads like unqualified support for the possible coming war.

BTW, I'm 71 myself.

But a nurse Republican? Does she enthusiastically favor the current crappy healthcare system? Is she okay with people going bankrupt over medical bills?

[Demsrule86]

6. Biden wants to fix the ACA which is doable unlike M4A...and the current crappy system as you call it

is eons better than it used to be before the ACA and millions are alive because of it...Are you OK with people being refused insurance because of pre-existing medical conditions? Do you want to got back pre-ACA...it is the only health care we ever were able to pass and the only one we ever will most likely.

[mwooldri]

13. Personally I'd rather shoot for M4A...

...and end up short than shoot for ACA Plus and end up short. Let's try and be ambitious... Pushing for Medicare for all and ending up with ACA on Steroids might be the end result but we got to at least try.

Is America with "Obamacare" better than pre "Obamacare"? Heck yeah. I don't want to go back there. Thinking that the worst case scenario for my kid's healthcare is a plane ticket to London and to be seen on the UK's National Health Service... it shouldn't have to be that way.

[Demsrule86]

19. We will end up with nothing by going for M4A...a public option is attainable.

[yellowdogintexas]

22. the perfect public option is to allow anyone who wishes to

have Medicare. It should be offered as an option on employer plans and in the ACA marketplaces.

As for M4A, it is not something that can be put into effect overnight. Adding that many people at once would overwhelm the system. Having it available to those who want it is a very good start. I think that once enough people take it on, word will spread

[samnsara]

52. my only problem with M4A is what if we had it now under trump? He'd use it to get..

...funding for his damned wall..or some other project hes obsessing over. M4A can be politicized and weaponized I worry.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

15. I did not express myself well.

No, I do not want to go back to what it used to be. But the ACA is being systematically dismantled. I just did a quick Google check. I'd thought the pre-existing conditions mandate had been cancelled already, and I'm happy to see that I'm wrong.

[Demsrule86]

20. Trump is dismantling it...andif it goes away we are fucked...we will never get M4A through congress.

We need to win..fix the ACA and add a public option...and can I say I am disappointed in Warren and Sanders for going for M4A when we are in a court battle to save the ACA...it gives right wing SCOTUS a out to destroy our only health care...both lack sound judgement in this matter IMHO.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. Defeatism is a doomed strategy. We CAN win House, Senate, & WH. Yes, we can. . . . nt

[reACTIONary]

59. A Dem white house and congress will not give us ...

... Medicare for all. We had all three in 2009, and we barely got the ACA ... With no public option and the medicaid expansion cut short.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

60. That was then. This is now. Defeatism, however, is an enduring attitude. There were many in 2009

There were many in 2009 saying Obama was foolish to even try going as far as he succeeded.

[reACTIONary]

61. Sorry, I'm not on board....

..... in fact, with M4A on the agenda we WON'T have all three branches and very probably would wind up with another four years of Trump.

I'm not for taking chances on pie in the sky.

[evertonfc]

7. Good question

My grandfather was a Lt. Col in Air Force back in the day and big time Republican. She has literally just kept voting Republican. She's lived abroad, well traveled and cool. lol. Dunno. Impossible to say

[waveiscoming]

21. War Sentiment

What part of the country is your grandmother in if you don't mind me asking?

[amuse bouche]

25. I'm an R.N and don't understand how any of them could support Cons

I've never voted for one and never will. The fact that any woman could support these sexist pigs is unreal

[Skittles]

50. honestly, amuse bouche

it gives me chills to think a nurse could be repuke.....makes me think of Nurse Ratched

[Drunken Irishman]

28. Why would a teacher be a Republican?

Why would any working man or woman vote Republican?

Yet they are - and do.

[True Blue American]

46. My Son said he never heard of Trump care.

He was upset with escalating health care costs.

I sent him the email I received asking me to sign up for Trump Medicare. He is trying to take credit when all he has done is knock down.*#%&*#@

[geretogo]

9. What amazes me is how after 40 years of extreme right wing policies drilled into peoples brain ,

people like Bernie and E Warren are considered too left . 70% of the American people agree with
what they stand for . They are middle of the road .

[area51]

16. +1 n/t

[aggiesal]

29. Completely agree ...

When Democrats ran Congress for 50 years (1930 - 1980) we built the strongest Middle Class humanity had ever seen.
Everything that FDR implemented would now be considered too far left and everyone would be calling it socialism.

Now that (R)'s have run Congress for pretty much 40 years (1980 - 2020), they've decimated the middle class in the US, while China now has a middle class that is larger than the US population. We have 350 million people living in the US, and China has a middle class with more than 350 Million, imagine that. You wonder why international corporations are turning their attention to China, India, and soon Africa.
The (R)'s want to get rid of public everything. Everyone calls that privatization, but I call it what it really is "profitization", someone has to make money on anything that is currently public.

Under the (R)'s any department with and alphabet soup designation should be profitized.

[True Blue American]

47. Fuyao

A Chinese Glass company just announced a $46 million dollar expansion here in Dayton.

They get all kinds of tax breaks while our companies get nothing.

Manufacturing is now at a ten year low.

[TidalWave46]

43. Who do you find to be the political left in the US? NT

[DemocracyMouse]

45. America has become deeply stupid and free from historical perspective.

It's one of the most infuriating things about living here. I'm so inclined to move out of here. I see the same lack of awareness among many highly opinionated folks in this forum. We once had a grand New Deal. For decades the middle class began to prosper, although more so among the white community which often shut African Americans out of the prosperity. Now we see lip service to the plight of Blacks, to their abuse by cops, but somehow mentioning economic inequality and overhauling healthcare is considered "extreme." That's total rubbish. Total rhetoric inserted even in this very forum to benefit the establishment and the rich.

Wake the f'k up America and read a history book.

[yaesu]

10. I have broken ties with all tRumpster family members, luckily my mom was a lifelong Dem

but she is gone. Out of all my family I only speak to my sister & her husband who are true Americans, not putinpugs.

[samnsara]

53. only my dtr and her family left of my bio family... i disowned them after my parents passed..

..hell we were never friends anyway. But they are very fringy and on opposite ends! I have no time for them.

[NYMinute]

11. Go Grandma!!!! nt

[Mr.Bill]

12. There are plenty of socially liberal republicans

here in California. But if they are wealthy, their money and taxes over rule everything else in the voting booth. Trump could be chopping the heads off live babies on TV and they would say "but my 401K is doing great!"

I hate to say it, but it may turn out that the only thing that might save this country is a major economic crash. Of course, downturns in the economy are inevitable, and statistically overdue right now. I don't want to see all the bad things that happen to many people when the economy crashes, but if it's going to happen, I rather see it now than after a Democrat is back in the White House.

[jayschool2013]

14. Well done

But too bad about that Everton-Liverpool match.

[crazytown]

17. She voted GOP in 2008

enough said.

[Joinfortmill]

18. The tide has turned

Vote Blue

[Wawannabe]

23. Yay! For your Mom!

Yay for Biden!

[rusty quoin]

24. Oh joe Biden if that is what it takes. But it's not with young people.

If Biden gets us to a normal place, I’m for it . But I think younger people some different thinking going on. If we win, it will not so much about capitalism. And I welcome that because it has become grotesque. It is a reaction.

It could have been slow but we are in an area of fuck that. Trump made it, and watch out for the young.

[Gothmog]

27. There are other swing voters who will support Biden

I have two republican law partners who will NOT vote for trump and who will support Biden

[redstateblues]

32. I have a family member who will vote for Joe but will go third party if Bernie wins the nomination

[True Blue American]

48. Smart, Educated Men.

[LenaBaby61]

30. Wait ....

She said she couldn't support "Any of the the rest of them because they are too far left".

Your Mom thinks that the rest of the Dems are too far left? What does she think of racist tRump, Stephen Miller and other tRumpthuglicans aka The treasonous party of putin, if you've asked her? And your Mom is a nurse? Have you asked her what she thinks about The party of putin wanting to get RID of healthcare for everyone with NO replacement? It's fine for THEM to have health care that we tax payers pay for though.

Getting rid of health care with NO replacement is murderous. That's far worse than being too far to the left IMHO. Too bad folks actually believe that Dems are too far left, when it's the party of putin whose behaving like followers of dictator/ tRump.

[Gothmog]

31. Trump is Putin's puppet

[UniteFightBack]

33. True. Poots will give dump a call and tell him to back off. nt

[UniteFightBack]

34. I'm telling you Americans of all stripes do not want this conflict with Iran...we don't want it. nt

[Javaman]

36. I'm glad your mother saw the light, but she's still a typical repuke...

something is only a problem when it suddenly effects them, otherwise everyone else can go fuck off.

[Gothmog]

37. There are a number of republicans who support Biden

Link to tweet

[shenmue]

38. Praise be to Ceiling Doggo

[FakeNoose]

39. Wow! This is very good news and it shows that your mom is paying attention

I'm so happy to hear whenever one GOP voter changes his/her mind, I figure at least 10 more are thinking about it. We Democrats/liberals need to talk with conservatives every day and get them to question the motives and values of the Chump-Republican Party.

Maybe they'll never flip and vote Dem like your mom plans to, but at least they might see the light about their own Party. Maybe some of them will refuse to vote for Chump next time, and I call that a win of sorts.

I'm in Pennsylvania and I do believe Joe Biden can win here. There are enough moderates here that will pull the lever for Biden when the chips are down, even though they couldn't do it for Hillary in 2016. (But that's another story.) Bernie has his good points however I don't believe he'd ever win in PA. I'll vote for whichever candidate wins the Democratic nomination - whomever it may be. Chump must go down.

[Gothmog]

40. You win elections by expanding the electorate, not shrinking it.

Link to tweet

Former Republican U.S. Sen. Gordon Humphrey and former New Hampshire First Lady Dorothy Peterson are among 100 independent Granite State voters announcing their support for former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday.

The Biden campaign said 93 of the 100 “New Hampshire Independents for Biden” are making their support for the former vice president known for the first time. The other seven have been previously announced and are reaffirming their support as members of the grassroots coalition.

The campaign said it intends to make a broad, concerted effort to speak to independent voters over the next six weeks leading to the first-in-the-nation primary on Feb. 11.

Independents, formally known as undeclared voters, make up the largest voting bloc in the state. As of Oct. 30, they comprised 42 percent of the registered voters in the state, while Republicans were 29.5 percent and Democrats were 28 percent of New Hampshire voters.

Independents can take either a Democratic or a Republican ballot in primary elections and then are able to return to undeclared status if they wish.

The Biden campaign said the independent voters on its supporters’ list “believe Joe Biden is the best candidate to defeat President Trump and restore the soul of our nation.”

[wryter2000]

41. I'm currently on a cruise ship

One of the ladies at my table is a lifelong Republican. She voted for Trump because she's always voted party line. She won't this year. She likes Bernie. I imagine she'll vote for Biden if he's the nominee.

[oldsoftie]

54. If she likes Bernie how could she have EVER voted for Trump?

[Hortensis]

55. They're both populist leaders who hit a lot of the

same notes. Both Trump and Sanders have always tried to woo away each others' populist-type supporters.

[TidalWave46]

42. I love your reply to her.

Awesome.

[nini]

44. This is typical republican thinking

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They don't give a shit about issues until it affects them. Worrying about her grandson is what moved her. How sad they can't consider other people's grandsons too.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm glad your mother woke up a bit, but it's sad it has to hit home before people wake up.

[LenaBaby61]

57. They don't give a shit about issues until it affects them.

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

Selfish is as selfish does.

ME, ME, ME, ME.

I, I, I, I.

🙄

[treestar]

49. She's found her limit!

To what she will let Dotard get away with! Let's hope other Republicans start to see that light!

[samnsara]

51. wow tell mom Thank You!

[keopeli]

56. A touching story...and kudos to your mother! You must have been apoplectic!

My mother, also a lifelong Republican, also voted for Hillary after a similar "Ah-ha!" moment. She's 80.

I bet our mothers would be friends if they met!







Thanks for sharing your Mother/Son story. It touched me. I'm my mom's only boy and she survived my coming out experience!



Afterthought:

My mother spent her second career in education. She was a Principal. She had a Masters in Educational Administration Longerwordicantremember...or something. She's a tough cookie! ...and a role model for me!

You go, Moms!

[myohmy2]

58. A lifelong Republican...

...okay...

"...couldn't support "any of the the rest of them because they are too far left". "

...understandable, but

...tell Republican Mom not to fret or worry but there's a good chance there's going to be a Bernie in her future...

...but that's okay too...

...tell her, if she likes Joe, she's going to love Bernie...