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Wed Jan 8, 2020, 02:57 PM

 

Does Sanders opening up to the support of PAC's......

Change how you feel about his campaign?

Does Sanders meeting with and accepting the endorsement of the head of a PAC, after the PAC put Sanders front and center on their website, change the way you feel about his campaign?

Sanders has meet and talked with the head of SouthPaw MI PAC multiple times. Even putting out a Sanders campaign commercial headlining the head of the PAC after the PAC began prominently supporting Sanders.

I have checked and double checked all of this. Please point out where I am wrong. I don't think I am. Nor is this hyperbole.

Do any other candidates meet with head of a PAC after endorsement? This I don not know. Regular thing?
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Reply Does Sanders opening up to the support of PAC's...... (Original post)
TidalWave46 Jan 2020 OP
Happyhippychick Jan 2020 #1
LakeArenal Jan 2020 #2
R B Garr Jan 2020 #3
Cha Jan 2020 #9
The Valley Below Jan 2020 #4
NYMinute Jan 2020 #14
comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #5
Cha Jan 2020 #10
comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #11
Sloumeau Jan 2020 #6
TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #7
betsuni Jan 2020 #8
Gothmog Jan 2020 #12
NYMinute Jan 2020 #13
Gothmog Jan 2020 #15
TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #16
ehrnst Jan 2020 #17
Gothmog Jan 2020 #18

Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:00 PM

1. What about the fact that he's now a millionaire x 2? That has changed the way I feel about him.

 

His entire platform is about income/wealth inequality. I don't understand why this isn't brought up more.
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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:05 PM

2. Nope.

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:07 PM

3. Great questions. It's hard to keep up with all

 

these superficial gimmicks.
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Response to R B Garr (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:49 PM

9. No kidding.

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:08 PM

4. Legal PACs? No problem. Fishy "dark money" groups like Our Revolution?

 

DiSqUaLiFyInG!
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Response to The Valley Below (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:45 AM

14. DiSqUaLiFyInG!

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:09 PM

5. No, I feel the same way about the Sanders campaign I have always

 

felt.
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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:50 PM

10. Hmmm

 

I'm gonna have to go with "worse".
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Response to Cha (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:53 PM

11. It certainly doesn't improve my already low opinion of the sanders campaign.

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:57 PM

6. Is it that my opinion of Bernie Sanders went down...

 

...or that my opinion of Joe Biden went up?

It is hard to tell.
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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 04:54 PM

7. K&R! nt

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:01 PM

8. K&R

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 08:24 PM

12. I have been following the operations of Our Revolution and knew that it was a super pac

 




Bernie Sanders says he doesn’t want a super PAC. Instead, he has Our Revolution, a nonprofit political organization he founded that functions much the same as one.

Like a super PAC, which is shorthand for super political action committee, Our Revolution can raise unlimited sums from wealthy patrons that dwarf the limits faced by candidates and conventional PACs. Unlike a super PAC, however, the group doesn’t have to disclose its donors — a stream of revenue commonly referred to as “dark money.”

Now, with less than one month to go before the Iowa caucuses, Our Revolution appears to be skirting campaign finance law, which forbids groups founded by federal candidates and officeholders from using large donations to finance federal election activity, including Sanders’ 2020 bid. ….

Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors who gave more than the limits and whose identities it hasn’t fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from those who contributed six-figure sums.

It won’t have to publicly reveal its 2019 fundraising until after this year’s presidential election. And money it raises between now and then won’t have to be disclosed until the following year.

“Any entity established by a federal officeholder can only raise and spend money under federal contribution limits for any activities in connection with a federal election,” said Paul S. Ryan, a campaign finance expert and attorney with the good-government group Common Cause. “Our Revolution was undoubtedly established by Sen. Sanders, is subject to these laws — and is seemingly in violation of them.”
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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:43 AM

13. K&R Go Joe!! nt

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:59 PM

15. I want to know who gave sanders/Our Revolution $218,000

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:26 PM

16. There are numerous dark money groups who have gone full team Sanders.

 

It's bigger than people think. What I have outlined in the op is direct, just as what you highlight. There is simply no getting around it. But then there are dark money organizations like CommonDreams who have fully taken up the cause to get Sanders elected while inflicting as much damage to the Democratic Party as they can. People are missing that aspect. Not only is CommonDreams a dark money organization and Sanders surrogate, they can operate while maintaining direct communication with the campaign. Not even PAC's are allowed to do that. Well, unless you are SouthPaw MI PAC. Then you don't only get to work directly with the campaign, you can stand on stage with Sanders himself and tell the world that current campaign finance law is insignificant to you.
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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:26 AM

17. I find it interesting to say the least. (nt)

 

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Response to TidalWave46 (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:14 PM

18. sanders love dark money

 


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