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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 02:57 PM Jan 2020

Does Sanders opening up to the support of PAC's......

Change how you feel about his campaign?

Does Sanders meeting with and accepting the endorsement of the head of a PAC, after the PAC put Sanders front and center on their website, change the way you feel about his campaign?

Sanders has meet and talked with the head of SouthPaw MI PAC multiple times. Even putting out a Sanders campaign commercial headlining the head of the PAC after the PAC began prominently supporting Sanders.

I have checked and double checked all of this. Please point out where I am wrong. I don't think I am. Nor is this hyperbole.

Do any other candidates meet with head of a PAC after endorsement? This I don not know. Regular thing?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Does Sanders opening up to the support of PAC's...... (Original Post) TidalWave46 Jan 2020 OP
What about the fact that he's now a millionaire x 2? That has changed the way I feel about him. Happyhippychick Jan 2020 #1
Nope. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #2
Great questions. It's hard to keep up with all R B Garr Jan 2020 #3
No kidding. Cha Jan 2020 #9
Legal PACs? No problem. Fishy "dark money" groups like Our Revolution? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #4
DiSqUaLiFyInG! NYMinute Jan 2020 #14
No, I feel the same way about the Sanders campaign I have always comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #5
Hmmm Cha Jan 2020 #10
It certainly doesn't improve my already low opinion of the sanders campaign. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #11
Is it that my opinion of Bernie Sanders went down... Sloumeau Jan 2020 #6
K&R! nt TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #7
K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #8
I have been following the operations of Our Revolution and knew that it was a super pac Gothmog Jan 2020 #12
K&R Go Joe!! nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #13
I want to know who gave sanders/Our Revolution $218,000 Gothmog Jan 2020 #15
There are numerous dark money groups who have gone full team Sanders. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #16
I find it interesting to say the least. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #17
sanders love dark money Gothmog Jan 2020 #18
 

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
1. What about the fact that he's now a millionaire x 2? That has changed the way I feel about him.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:00 PM
Jan 2020

His entire platform is about income/wealth inequality. I don't understand why this isn't brought up more.

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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
3. Great questions. It's hard to keep up with all
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jan 2020

these superficial gimmicks.

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
9. No kidding.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:49 PM
Jan 2020
RB
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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
4. Legal PACs? No problem. Fishy "dark money" groups like Our Revolution?
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jan 2020

DiSqUaLiFyInG!

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comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
5. No, I feel the same way about the Sanders campaign I have always
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:09 PM
Jan 2020

felt.

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
10. Hmmm
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jan 2020

I'm gonna have to go with "worse".

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comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
11. It certainly doesn't improve my already low opinion of the sanders campaign.
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:53 PM
Jan 2020
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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
6. Is it that my opinion of Bernie Sanders went down...
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jan 2020

...or that my opinion of Joe Biden went up?

It is hard to tell.

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Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
12. I have been following the operations of Our Revolution and knew that it was a super pac
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 08:24 PM
Jan 2020



Bernie Sanders says he doesn’t want a super PAC. Instead, he has Our Revolution, a nonprofit political organization he founded that functions much the same as one.

Like a super PAC, which is shorthand for super political action committee, Our Revolution can raise unlimited sums from wealthy patrons that dwarf the limits faced by candidates and conventional PACs. Unlike a super PAC, however, the group doesn’t have to disclose its donors — a stream of revenue commonly referred to as “dark money.”

Now, with less than one month to go before the Iowa caucuses, Our Revolution appears to be skirting campaign finance law, which forbids groups founded by federal candidates and officeholders from using large donations to finance federal election activity, including Sanders’ 2020 bid. ….

Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors who gave more than the limits and whose identities it hasn’t fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from those who contributed six-figure sums.

It won’t have to publicly reveal its 2019 fundraising until after this year’s presidential election. And money it raises between now and then won’t have to be disclosed until the following year.

“Any entity established by a federal officeholder can only raise and spend money under federal contribution limits for any activities in connection with a federal election,” said Paul S. Ryan, a campaign finance expert and attorney with the good-government group Common Cause. “Our Revolution was undoubtedly established by Sen. Sanders, is subject to these laws — and is seemingly in violation of them.”
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Gothmog

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15. I want to know who gave sanders/Our Revolution $218,000
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jan 2020
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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
16. There are numerous dark money groups who have gone full team Sanders.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020

It's bigger than people think. What I have outlined in the op is direct, just as what you highlight. There is simply no getting around it. But then there are dark money organizations like CommonDreams who have fully taken up the cause to get Sanders elected while inflicting as much damage to the Democratic Party as they can. People are missing that aspect. Not only is CommonDreams a dark money organization and Sanders surrogate, they can operate while maintaining direct communication with the campaign. Not even PAC's are allowed to do that. Well, unless you are SouthPaw MI PAC. Then you don't only get to work directly with the campaign, you can stand on stage with Sanders himself and tell the world that current campaign finance law is insignificant to you.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
17. I find it interesting to say the least. (nt)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jan 2020
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