Who do you believe -re no woman can be elected president-Warren or Sanders

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17 votes, 5 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Elizabeth Warren
	12 (71%)
	Bernie Sanders
	5 (29%)
	5 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[TidalWave46]

1. Don't care. This is a brilliant attack on Sanders.

It is built off the back of his historical issues in this area. No matter what happens from here on out the damage is done. It can't be rolled back. That said, the damage is about to get a lot worse. Don't think the other candidates don't see that Sanders and his campaign are injured. The sharks smell blood and will be levying their own attacks.

It's a blood sport, folks.

[KSNY]

2. It's of his generation (same generation as Biden)

Both can be characterized as out of touch re: statements/behavior toward women. However, this question is a diversion from the real issues of women's rights currently under threat by the Trump regime.

[TidalWave46]

5. Make another run at Biden in that area.

Sanders surrogates already did that and it backfired in a major way.

It's not as you state. Sanders can't shake his history.

[MH1]

16. Um, no. They are not at all equivalent.

You've inspired me to write an OP on that point.

[DaDeacon]

4. Poor kids just as smart as whites, yeah?!?!

I guess a make-believe unconfirmed gaff is worse than a real one....

[TidalWave46]

6. "I guess a make-believe unconfirmed gaff is worse than a real one...."

It's situational. Clearly.

[Hoyt]

3. If Sanders said "women SHOULD NOT be elected," it's an issue. But if he was expressing an

opinion that it would be tough to elect a woman, history shows him correct, sadly.

If he was saying Warren would have a tough time, that too could be correct.

I do not understand the furor this has created, and I am not a fan of Sanders.

I think Warren will have a tough time in the general election for a number of reasons. Kamala Harris or Klobuchar were my choice, but Klobuchar hasn't gained enough interest, and Harris has dropped out.

[Skya Rhen]

13. The problem is Bernie denied even discussing a woman's electability chances. Protested too much...

[trueblue2007]

20. If Sanders said "women SHOULD NOT be elected," the DNC should remove him from the campaign.

[vsrazdem]

7. It's pretty clear to me. Everyone is playing nice until Warren starts dropping in the polls.

Suddenly, a screen shot of 1 Sanders volunteer (not campaign's) talking points gets leaked to the press (which by the way the Sanders Campaign removed, and told the volunteer they could not use or distribute), and then the Warren campaign leaks a story about how Bernie says a woman can't be elected. Its desperation and no one will convince me otherwise. It's dirty politics and it is not playing well for Warren. Sanders just made more campaign donations off this one.

[Bradical79]

8. Seems he was discussing this election and Trump specifically

At least going by the new Washington Post follow up. It sounds like it was more about what sort of people Trump attracts, and a woman increasing turnout for those scumbags. Not as egregious, but still sexist imo. It's not just a Sanders opinion either. There's too many Democratic voters who have drawn the wrong lessons from 2016.

Fact is still Clinton beat Trump by a decent margin in the popular vote. She lost because the election was compromised, and some poor strategy for a few states made it close enough for Trump and his Russian allies to steal. Had nothing to do with her being a woman.

[Gothmog]

9. I believe Senator Warren

[oldsoftie]

10. Picked Sanders because i cant believe he'd be stupid enough to say it to ELIZABETH WARREN

It would be stupid period, but to say it to HER??????
if it IS true, he's too stupid to be president.

[brooklynite]

12. In which case, wouldn't it have been just as stupid for Warren to say he did?

[oldsoftie]

15. Yes

[brooklynite]

11. Anyone who votes for Warren in this poll is a member of the "Democratic Establishment"!!!!!

[Quackers]

18. Guess we'll see you at the next meeting.

[SaschaHM]

14. Warren.

Bernie would try to preemptively clear the field by passing along the sentiment to a friend and colleague.

[redqueen]

17. Where's the option for 'we have actual issues to focus on, you know?' nt

[TCJ70]

19. Both. Here's what I think happened:

They had a conversation about the upcoming elections. Sanders gives his opinion that a woman will struggle and most likely fail in our current political climate. Warren obviously disagrees.

So, no, Sanders didn’t say “A WOMAN CAN’T WIN” without any other context making him correct.

And yes, Warren correctly recounted a disagreement they had about the chances of a woman in the election.

Warren in her statement characterized it as punditry...and it’s not wrong to hold the opinion that women, historically, have had a harder time in Presidential elections than men.

This whole thing feels like manufactured outrage and it’s just dumb.

[Hoyt]

21. Agree completely, "manufactured outrage and it's just dumb."

Time to move on, we have important issues and a traitor Prez to deal with.