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Related: About this forumSanders not sure that 'one incident alone' disqualifies Biden
BY MICHAEL BURKE - 03/31/19 10:52 AM EDT
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday that he's "not sure that one incident alone" disqualifies Joe Biden from running for president after former Nevada state assemblywoman Lucy Flores (D) accused the former vice president of inappropriately touching and kissing her without her consent in 2014.
Thats a decision for the vice president to make," Sanders, a candidate for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, said on CBS's "Face the Nation" when asked if the allegation disqualifies Biden. "Im not sure that one incident alone disqualifies anybody."
Sanders added that he has "no reason not to believe" Flores, who said in an essay published Friday in New York Magazine's The Cut that Biden touched her shoulders and kissed the back of her head before a Nevada campaign rally.
I have no reason not to believe Lucy," the Vermont senator said on Sunday. "And I think what this speaks to is the need to fundamentally change the culture of this country and to create environments feel comfortable and feel safe.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/436624-sanders-not-sure-that-one-incident-alone-disqualifies-biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,068 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chemisse
(30,793 posts)Or he can just go backstage and tell him to start looking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)in the days after it was released, which happened to be the same week he launched his 2016 campaign.
Funny how history repeats, isn't it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,729 posts)are harping on a list of allegedly offensive/inappropriate behaviors that they were happy to lift from GOP smears of Biden.
And Flores is one of those supporters and had gone through a list in her initial attack on Biden.
Bernie's trying to appear above it all while others do the smearing of his strongest rival for the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,068 posts)as we've seen many times before
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)has not endorsed him this time is working for Bernie. Bullshit. Biden is not Bernie's strongest rival for the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,729 posts)he said, ""Im not sure that one incident alone disqualifies anybody," and also said that he believed Flores. I don't for one second believe that Bernie is unaware that his supporters, starting with Flores in her initial attack, were listing additional incidents to try to make a case for disqualifying Biden.
As for Biden NOT being Bernie's strongest rival for the nomination...who else would be? The polls show Biden leading Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)would be Bernie's' strongest rival. But Bernie!!!!!!!!!! Biden's supporters will not go to Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,342 posts)Nearly everyone believes that Biden is running. Just because it's not official yet doesn't mean they're not rivals.
Beto just announced yesterday and there's been sniping between the two camps for weeks. Were they not rivals until yesterday?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)Biden supporters will not go to Bernie, if he doesn't run the people who support him will go to Harris. IMO
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)Will take him out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)"he kissed the back of my head" and now it's "he kissed the top of my head." What can we believe from her?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(295,912 posts)Link to tweet
".. that what she remembered did not match my recollection or what was in the photos.."
He felt "sucker punched and surprised that their private conversation was included and worse.. it misrepresented me".
Imagine if Cristobal Alex had not spoken up?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)point it out Cha? I think he went out of his way to make himself a part of the story. Make himself look good for the boss, maybe? Talk about misrepresenting. I don't see where he's offering up the information that Biden hired him for his team. You should read the tweets to him. . This guy seems like a shitty friend.
In the latest sign that Joe Biden will run for president, his team has brought on Cristóbal Alex, the head of the influential Latino Victory Fund, Politico reports.
Its not clear what role Alex would fill in a Biden presidential campaign. He served as Hillary Clintons National Deputy Director of Voter Outreach and Mobilization in 2016.
https://politicalwire.com/2019/03/06/biden-nabs-big-name-latino-operative/
https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/an-awkward-kiss-changed-how-i-saw-joe-biden.html
Im not suggesting that Biden broke any laws, but the transgressions that society deems minor (or doesnt even see as transgressions) often feel considerable to the person on the receiving end. That imbalance of power and attention is the whole point and the whole problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(295,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)Can you find that?
What we do know Cha is the guy you are using to smear her was hired by Biden and didn't address that in his " she misrepresented me whine" . Talk about misrepresenting.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(295,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chemisse
(30,793 posts)If so, yes it does need to go viral.
Nobody should get away with weaponizing the MeToo Movement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The whole thing looks even more Fishy now with this photo.. and I didn't believe her yesterday.
This is from 2017 after the GE..
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(295,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,912 posts)she's not going to endorse BS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)Last time, and numerous folk came forward with evidence she is lying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)tweet that disputed her version and he claimed she misrepresented him . Of course he misrepresented himself when he failed to disclose he had been hired by Biden's campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)Look again for evidence. The event planner said it was impossible for it to happen the way flores said it did. Oh the friend has pictures. I have also seen her posing with Biden smiling right after her fake ordeal. She has been outed as a fraud. And using me to is despicable. Dirty tricks or not, I don't see Sanders winning the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,912 posts)alleged conduct.
Sanders says he did not know about sexual harassment allegations during campaign
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142234955
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)I would of course vote for him in a general but I don't see that happening.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)To be fair though, both quotes had the word "one" in them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)Titled Posted without comment. Right. Alternate title could have been Posted without context. It wasnt even a quote that was posted without comment.
Im all for calling candidates out for their statements but that thread was just wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,761 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,219 posts)Not sure Id agree with Sanders on the matter of how the culture should change.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,112 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,729 posts)probably shouldn't disqualify Biden. (I included the word "probably" there because Bernie said he "wasn't sure" whether one incident alone should be disqualifying. Nice qualifier from him there, in case anyone points out the other incidents were GOP smears that have been debunked.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)We nominate Sanders we lose. He won't win the states we need.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)of course the MSM is running with it.
Bernie should say that, as he has an interesting story or two also.
And where are his tax returns?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(80,699 posts)for a long time. Since the last time. And as with trump not releasing his tax returns, Id ask the same of Bernie as I have of trump: you hiding something?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(91,962 posts)to high positions in your campaign
David Sirota, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,039 posts)and sexual violence alleged on his last campaign?
Was BS asked to speculate as to why Lucy Flores continued to work on that campaign despite the fact that she was aware of the abuses in real time?
Was BS asked why he didn't know about the abuse and/or why Lucy Flores chose not to disclose it to him?
I'm more troubled by what happened in secret on the BS campaign last time around than I am about the questions surrounding Joe Biden's public persona.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FloridaBlues
(3,993 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,813 posts)Lucy Flores, a former Nevada assemblywoman and a surrogate for the Sanders campaign during the 2016 presidential primary, said she was contemporaneously aware of these same allegations of "misogyny" during the campaign.
"There was essentially a cover-up" when issues were raised, she told NPR.
Flores added that sexism isn't an issue isolated to the Sanders campaign, saying it commonly occurs in campaigns.
"Frankly, I do think it's a little unfair ... that the attention and all of the conversation is including Bernie's name, because this isn't just something that's limited to Bernie's campaign," Flores said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
namahage
(1,157 posts)but she chose to say nothing at the time--until complaints from other staffers forced her hand?
Would it be that doing so would be an inexcusable black mark on Sanders' campaign--and, by extension, her own, since the only major endorsement she got was from Sanders?
And then she immediately pivots to "other campaigns do it too"?
How's that any better?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The tactic often works.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)BS is going scorched earth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)disqualify Sanders?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)GO AWAY!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,912 posts)charges in your own campaign before you have anything to say about Flores' suspicious accusations.
Sanders says he did not know about sexual harassment allegations during campaign
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142234955
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden