Krystal Ball: Why establishment scramble to stop Bernie will fail

[Quixote1818]

Still in Warren's camp but if she continues to drop I will move to Sanders:

[Mike Nelson]

2. I think her...

... crystal ball is flawed. It could never see Hillary clearly.

[Me.]

3. Krystal, If You Were Looing INto Your Crystal Ball

you'd know he is the definition of establishment

[Polybius]

4. But Party leaders and leadership in the House and Senate don't support him

His votes also differ, being that they are to the left of the Party. That makes him anti.

[Me.]

7. Then He Is Biting The Hands That Feed Him

with a big 6 figure salary, excellent health care, 3 Mill+ to run his office and a big pension waiting for him to collect. And why, I wonder would some not offer support when he calls them names and insults them often. There is a real disconnect with this elite.

[Polybius]

5. Krystal is one of my biggest crushes in political media

Her and Ana Kasparian.

[Scotch-Irish]

6. This is one of the most important commentaries I've heard on the Bernie candidacy.

If he wins primaries and the establishment (conservative) dems try to oust him, they will DESTROY the democratic party. Too many republicans who voted for trump say would vote for Bernie. He could bring this country together. It's him or Elizabeth for me.

Kind of like how the republicans want us to "go back" to when Black people were slaves, democrats want us to "go back" to Bill/Hill Clinton. That world is over. We're in a new world now, and we're moving in the Sanders/Warren direction as Democrats.

The young people who will be stepping up (AOC), they are in the Bernie/Elizabeth camps. That's our future. Establishment politics can throw water on that flame, and put it out for good, and destroy the party.

[squirecam]

8. The nominee

Will be the one with the most delegates won during the primaries.

[Scurrilous]

10. Look down. That's your future. President Biden.

[CentralMass]

11. +1

[Scurrilous]

9. LOL

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They're all doing it. 'Scramble.' Is that what you call leading in the polls in most states. Cenk called Bernie the presumptive nominee this morning and this Greenwald acolyte has people scambling to stop. Let's say opposite of what's really going on.

Biden leading entire polled South, Missouri and Texas included in both Avg. and Latest.

Biden up in Arizona Avg. +4.5 Latest +11

Cali - within 3 Avg.

Colorado - within 1 Latest

Conn. - Biden +14 Latest

Del. - Biden +22 Latest

Ill. - Biden + 6 Latest

Ind. - Biden +10 Latest

Wyoming - Warren +80?

Iowa - Sanders up .5 in Average

Maine- Biden +3.2 Avg. +5 Latest

Maryland - Biden +12 Latest

Mass. - Biden .4% behind Warren in Avg.

Mich. - Biden +5.7 Avg. +5 Latest

Minn. - Warren +10 Latest Biden barely third ahead of Sanders 4th

Montana - Warren +25 Latest

Nevada - Biden +1.6 Avg. +2 Latest

NH - Sanders up well in Avg. and Latest in State w/ 33 delegates out of 1900 needed

N.J. - Biden +5.8 Avg. +4 Latest

N.M. - Sanders 28% Biden 27%

NY- Biden +13 Sanders and Bloomberg tied for second

Ohio - Biden + 7.2 Avg. +11 Latest

OK - Biden +15 Latest

Ore. - Sanders 27% Biden 26%

Penn. - Biden +10.8 Avg. +11 Latest

Utah - Sanders +12 in state w/ 35 delegates and open primary

Wash. Biden +2 Latest

Wisc. - Sanders up 1.3% Avg.

I see no scramble. IOW she's full of Greenwald.

[Quixote1818]

12. Until candidates start campaigning in those states those numbers are meaningless

People start tuning in and thinking about who to vote for in the last couple of weeks before the vote. The fact that both Iowa and NH are breaking toward Sanders this late has to be extremely concerning to Biden and the others. Not to mention if Sanders wins Iowa AND NH he will get a TON of media attention. This is why all the betting sites have recently moved toward Sanders over Biden. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/

[Scurrilous]

14. Bernie has been up in NH for a while. In fact, Biden has pulled out most his people.

It's not breaking to Bernie. It's in his column. He'll get the most of the least. Iowa is not breaking either. It has been see-saw in latest but stable in average. Bernie is up .5%. In a state with roughly 40 delegates. States 3 and 4 are firmly in Biden's favor. Bernie's camp is already discounting Biden's probable win in 4 saying no one will notice because it comes before Super Tuesday. How concerning it must be for Bernie that Biden is up in state 3 and way up in 4? Three has roughly as much as 1 and 2 combined. 4 has 60ish. Media can't win this for Bernie. Neither will gamblers. The voters will. And those numbers I posted spell doom for Bernie.

[squirecam]

15. So bloomberg

Is simply wasting money then?

Or any candidate running ads now for any state other than Iowa?

[Scurrilous]

16. It's BS.

Campaigns are underway everywhere. Have been for awhile. Ads everywhere too. I hate it too when people make stuff up.

[Uncle Joe]

13. Kicked and recommended

Thanks for the thread Quixote.

[David__77]

17. She seems great to me!

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