Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumFiveThirtyEight reports: Sanders passes Biden
538 is now saying Sanders chance of winning enough delegates for the nomination is now up to 37%, up from 31% before Iowa. Bidens dismal Iowa showing drops Bidens chances to 21%, down from 43% previously.
Details:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-post-iowa-primary-forecast-is-up-and-bidens-chances-are-down/
Go BERNIE!
The model shows former Vice President Joe Bidens chances of winning a majority of pledged delegates being halved from 43 percent before Iowa to 21 percent now.
Who gains from Bidens decline? Well, a little bit of everyone. The model thinks Iowa was more good news than bad news for Sen. Bernie Sanders, although it was a somewhat close call. His chances have advanced to 37 percent, from 31 percent before Iowa, making him the most likely person to achieve that majority.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Big news. 43 to 21!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
musicblind
(4,484 posts)but not exactly crazy either.
Iowa has always mattered.
I don't think that means Biden has no chance, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Lets have votes. Count them. Then declare a winner.
Iowa has been a total crap fest. Including the pundits.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HubertHeaver
(2,520 posts)They were yammering on and on with no idea what they were talking about. They needed to have a string quartet standing by or, maybe an old Jackie Gleason episode or two, or three.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,189 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HubertHeaver
(2,520 posts)check that--maybe a truckload
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)where the caucus itself appears to have been horribly mismanaged,
we're supposed to believe anyone's prediction of the eventual nominee?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)I can dig it!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(41,965 posts)In running the model, were relying on Iowa results as currently reported (as of 5:15 p.m. Eastern on Wednesday afternoon) plus estimates from our friends at The Upshot on the probability that each candidate eventually wins the various vote measures that Iowa tracks. The Upshot now gives Buttigieg about a 98 percent chance of winning the most state delegate equivalents (SDEs) the measure that the media has traditionally used to declare Iowa winners (and the only measure that Iowa has reported before this year), although it creates a bias toward candidates who perform well in rural areas.
Meanwhile, The Upshot gives Sanders a greater than 99 percent chance to win the first alignment vote the candidate that voters initially lined up with when they entered their caucus sites. They regard the final alignment popular vote the candidate that voters wound up with after supporters of nonviable candidates were allowed to realign as a tossup between Buttigieg and Sanders.
As I explained on Wednesday, we hadnt totally thought through how to handle the case where different candidates won by different metrics in Iowa. We were slightly surprised, however, at how much emphasis the media put on SDEs as opposed to the popular vote metrics. Since post-primary bounces are largely the result of media coverage, we decided that our formula for predicting bounces should reflect that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)which outsizes Iowas influence on the whole shebang. Not polls even, a model. It is an Iowa-centered model. It must presume that Iowa results set off cascading events, a notion for which
we have no absolute proof. It must also ignore Sanders lack of AA support and assume that because of Iowa that no longer matters. How would anyone know yet? Because of Iowa are CBC
members going to endorse Sanders en masse. Not so fast!
Suddenly because of Iowa Bernie has grown likable across the political spectrum, with diverse populations previously immune to his charms?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Any port in a storm!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden