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Dawgman49

(224 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:21 AM Feb 2020

WTF...democratic mayor of Columbia SC

on with Ali on msnbc this AM.....this african american mayor defending/minimizing stop & frisk, redlining...is clearly all in with bloomberg....Ali pressed him hard..the mayor looked foolish...I am concerned about this my home state...can someone explain why bloomberg is having so much appeal with anyone ? I can't figure it out

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WTF...democratic mayor of Columbia SC (Original Post) Dawgman49 Feb 2020 OP
I think he has bought a few candidates greymattermom Feb 2020 #1
Bloomberg's billions stay veiled while funding 2020 campaign Baclava Feb 2020 #10
So Democratic politicians who support Bloomberg are "bought"? Lack all integrity? BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #14
Stacey Abrams is "bought". Is that you final answer? brooklynite Feb 2020 #17
Nice Bloomberg/Abrams!! aeromanKC Feb 2020 #27
Christ, you know better than them? Hoyt Feb 2020 #31
Gotta wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #2
Cause many are misreading what voters find of utmost importance. boston bean Feb 2020 #3
Mike isn't nailing Trump to the wall based on actions and based on his actions I don't trust his ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #5
Ok. boston bean Feb 2020 #8
IDGAF about "taking it" to Trump I care about policies and winning and how in the hell is MB going uponit7771 Feb 2020 #9
I don't know yet uponit. boston bean Feb 2020 #11
There were black pols supporting Trump, that doesn't mean much unless the non pols start uponit7771 Feb 2020 #12
Not like Lucy McBath. Some of these persons I hold in very high regard. boston bean Feb 2020 #13
Again, those are politico figures the avg voter doesn't know who she is. Get a well known politico uponit7771 Feb 2020 #16
McBath Renaissance Man Feb 2020 #18
You are so right. But apparently "pro-choice" is an insignificant difference to some. MH1 Feb 2020 #15
Of course he's not worse than Trump but "slightly better" isn't something folk are going to get uponit7771 Feb 2020 #19
He's not my first choice, but pro-choice is MUCH more than "slightly better" MH1 Feb 2020 #20
Neither are the rights of me and my children. MB advocated for racial profiling and has only... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #21
Do you think he will support worse policies than Trump in that area? MH1 Feb 2020 #23
He's ... NOT ... much better when it comes to race he's slightly better. I'm more shocked people uponit7771 Feb 2020 #25
K&R, there's way too much deflection when it comes to answers to Bloombergs crap. He sounds like ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #4
Let's see. drumpf for President AGAIN or Bloomberg?! democratisphere Feb 2020 #6
Many of us are in desperation mode and the only issue that matters is beating Trump. honest.abe Feb 2020 #7
Really? former9thward Feb 2020 #33
Head to head polling shows Bloomberg beating Trump. honest.abe Feb 2020 #34
Black mayors seem to really like Bloomberg (nt) Recursion Feb 2020 #22
They think he can beat Trump. patricia92243 Feb 2020 #24
So is the mayors of Houston and DC evertonfc Feb 2020 #26
Interestingly a lot of Mayors are endorsing him. Mayor of SF and San Jose in my neck of the woods still_one Feb 2020 #28
To date, 4 Black Caucus members are saying something similar. While I believe white wing gun-toters Hoyt Feb 2020 #29
The biggest thing going for Bloomberg is that he is not Bernie Sanders NYMinute Feb 2020 #30
I'm not $ure. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #32
Mayor of Houston recently endorsed Bloomberg. Kaleva Feb 2020 #35
 

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
1. I think he has bought a few candidates
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:23 AM
Feb 2020

who needed his support. Lucy McBath, possibly Stacey Abrams, and I'm sure there are many more, probably including this mayor.

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
10. Bloomberg's billions stay veiled while funding 2020 campaign
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:40 AM
Feb 2020

Michael Bloomberg has bought his way into the 2020 presidential race with hundreds of millions of dollars from his personal fortune. But he may not provide any details about where that money comes from until more than half of the Democratic primary is over.

While his rivals have disclosed years of financial details on everything from book deals to consulting clients to vacation homes, Bloomberg has not released any financial information since launching a late 2020 campaign fueled entirely by his $60 billion-plus in wealth. The billionaire and former New York City mayor was granted an extension on filing mandatory financial disclosure forms until March 20 — more than halfway through the delegate race and after Super Tuesday, when Bloomberg hopes to make his first splash in delegate-rich states like California and Texas.

Bloomberg has often blamed his late entry into the 2020 race for his unusual choices, such as not trying to qualify for the Democratic debates or skipping the Iowa caucuses. Critics see something else: A candidate with a history of buying his way around requirements that less wealthy politicians have to follow. He’s “skipping the democracy part of this,” Elizabeth Warren quipped in a recent MSNBC interview.

“The notion that we can go through Super Tuesday without having this legally required information for a presidential candidate who is spending millions of dollars is troublesome,” said Meredith McGehee, executive director of the government oversight group Issue One. “The American people are being asked to make a decision about a candidate without information that, the law says, should be important.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/22/michael-bloomberg-2020-funding-102467

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BusyBeingBest

(8,049 posts)
14. So Democratic politicians who support Bloomberg are "bought"? Lack all integrity?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:45 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
17. Stacey Abrams is "bought". Is that you final answer?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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aeromanKC

(3,307 posts)
27. Nice Bloomberg/Abrams!!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:43 PM
Feb 2020

Double bonus if we can get Biden SOS

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. Christ, you know better than them?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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rzemanfl

(29,540 posts)
2. Gotta wash socks. BBL. n/t
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:24 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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boston bean

(36,186 posts)
3. Cause many are misreading what voters find of utmost importance.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:25 AM
Feb 2020

Remove the Dotard and save the country from four more years of him.

Bloomberg right now is nailing Trumpass to a wall. So, people find that refreshing and giving a sense of hope.

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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
5. Mike isn't nailing Trump to the wall based on actions and based on his actions I don't trust his ...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:27 AM
Feb 2020

... policies especially what I just heard about his opposition to ADA and cabs

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boston bean

(36,186 posts)
8. Ok.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:31 AM
Feb 2020

He’s an ass.

But he is taking it to trump.

He is pro choice.
He is not a climate change denier.

So there are some things in there for our side.

It does not have to be a zero sum game. We will lose if people think it is.

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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
9. IDGAF about "taking it" to Trump I care about policies and winning and how in the hell is MB going
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:34 AM
Feb 2020

... to do that sounding like a racist assed republican for the last 20 years !!??!

I'm black and a politico how are non politico PoC supposed to take Bloomberg !?!?

The shit he said about Biden and the 94 bill is disgusting, this is on video.

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boston bean

(36,186 posts)
11. I don't know yet uponit.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:40 AM
Feb 2020

There are mainstream black legislators and mayors supporting him. I don’t speak for anyone.

However it is still early. I am not decided on him. But one thing I do know is he is taking it to Trumpass right now. And it is the reason his support is growing even over considering everything you have pointed out.

So, I think my point still stands.

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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
12. There were black pols supporting Trump, that doesn't mean much unless the non pols start
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:43 AM
Feb 2020

... getting behind him in numbers depending on who it is.

Bloomberg with Sanders money means he doesn't get support at all, his money is talking not his record

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boston bean

(36,186 posts)
13. Not like Lucy McBath. Some of these persons I hold in very high regard.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
16. Again, those are politico figures the avg voter doesn't know who she is. Get a well known politico
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020

... activist like Snoop or a politico activist like Kendrick behind Bloomberg and then the flood gates open.

We'll see, I just don't see how MB's racist shit is supposed to past mustard 2 weeks before the election.

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Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
18. McBath
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020

Lucy is likely supporting him because they align politically on gun reform, and he likely invested heavily in her winning Newt Gingrich’s old House seat.

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Undecided
 

MH1

(17,537 posts)
15. You are so right. But apparently "pro-choice" is an insignificant difference to some.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:48 AM
Feb 2020

True, it would be a harder question if Bloomie were worse in other areas, such as racism, than Trump. But he's not. He may be less than great (and that makes me unhappy and hoping he's not the top of the ticket); but he's not an overt fucking Nazi-lover like Trump.

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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
19. Of course he's not worse than Trump but "slightly better" isn't something folk are going to get
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:52 AM
Feb 2020

... behind in droves when it comes to racist policies that hurt children

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MH1

(17,537 posts)
20. He's not my first choice, but pro-choice is MUCH more than "slightly better"
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:11 PM
Feb 2020

and THAT is what is pissing me off so much this primary season.

Last time around BS called Planned Parenthood "establishment" as if all women have access to reproductive rights and proper care. So, now I am hearing that someone - who is not worse than Trump on other issues - who is FAR FAR better on women's rights, is only "slightly better"?

Fuck that.

I want a nominee who is better in all areas. But if it comes down to Bloomberg I will take it, because women's rights are NOT an issue of "slight" importance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
21. Neither are the rights of me and my children. MB advocated for racial profiling and has only...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:01 PM
Feb 2020

... apologized for stop and frisk which is not illegal or immoral and advocated for it even last year.

His "no one talked to me about S&F ..." is a damn lie, I'm not convinced he's changed on that front

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MH1

(17,537 posts)
23. Do you think he will support worse policies than Trump in that area?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:21 PM
Feb 2020

What I am trying - and failing - to wrap my head around, is how some people (not sure it includes you), can equate Bloomberg to Trump and ignore the key areas where he is MUCH better, and the fact he truly isn't as bad on other areas of importance. Sure, I look a little side-eye at Bloomie's past policies like S&F - but he was a mayor then, responding (incorrectly) to people's concerns about crime. How will that show up if he is President? In judge appointments, I would think. But does anyone here think his judge appointments will be worse than Trump's? If so, why? If not, then how can they equate Bloomberg with Trump? "Less bad" may not be our first choice but it sure as hell is better than re-electing Trump.

And to be clear, Bloomie is NOT my first choice - for exactly these concerns. But I do think he can beat Trump and I don't think we should be obscuring the differences.

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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
25. He's ... NOT ... much better when it comes to race he's slightly better. I'm more shocked people
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:38 PM
Feb 2020

... are ignoring that part and expect PoC that are not politicos to come out in droves ... that doesn't happen.

Of course overall MB is better than Trump but he's the worst of what's available for us right now on multiple areas including who can beat Trump.

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uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
4. K&R, there's way too much deflection when it comes to answers to Bloombergs crap. He sounds like ...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:26 AM
Feb 2020

... a republican that doesn't like Trump and is running on the democratic ticket because he knows there's no space on the republican.

I don't want slightly better than Trump in a lot of areas

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. Let's see. drumpf for President AGAIN or Bloomberg?!
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:28 AM
Feb 2020

No brainer! But I still only want Joe Biden for the sake of sanity.

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honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
7. Many of us are in desperation mode and the only issue that matters is beating Trump.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:28 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg has already demonstrated is capable of doing that better than any of the other candidates.

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former9thward

(31,805 posts)
33. Really?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

How has he demonstrated that? Where is the polling showing him beating Trump? Where is he going to get his electoral votes to win?

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honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
34. Head to head polling shows Bloomberg beating Trump.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:14 PM
Feb 2020

Also, its the style and intensity of the attack ads he is running against Trump. They seem to be working very well and most likely driving Trump crazy. No one else is doing anything like that.

Here are the polling numbers that show Bloomberg ahead by 6pts according to RCP..

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_bloomberg-6797.html

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. Black mayors seem to really like Bloomberg (nt)
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:12 PM
Feb 2020
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patricia92243

(12,590 posts)
24. They think he can beat Trump.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
26. So is the mayors of Houston and DC
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:43 PM
Feb 2020

that want to beat Trump

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still_one

(91,963 posts)
28. Interestingly a lot of Mayors are endorsing him. Mayor of SF and San Jose in my neck of the woods
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:56 PM
Feb 2020
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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. To date, 4 Black Caucus members are saying something similar. While I believe white wing gun-toters
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:06 PM
Feb 2020

should have been targets of such policies, lots of minority communities want guns off the streets so they, and their kids, don't have to fear being shot.

I'd suggest listenting to what some of them have to say, before wondering why they are saying it --

Here's just one: blob:https://www.msnbc.com/f1f676ef-cd5f-44d6-be70-2ed0d01c634d


Listen to Rep Lucy McBath, whose son was murdered by a racist gun owner. Listen to Black members of 'Mothers Against Guns," who want kids to walk down the street without getting shot. "Stop and Frisk" wasn't the best approach, but it was better than doing nothing at a time when innocent kids were getting shot just walking down the street in high crime areas.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
30. The biggest thing going for Bloomberg is that he is not Bernie Sanders
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:10 PM
Feb 2020

That is worth a million points in my book.

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Kaleva

(36,146 posts)
35. Mayor of Houston recently endorsed Bloomberg.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:25 PM
Feb 2020
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