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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:38 AM Apr 2019

Bernie is looking silly with this tax return release delays....

I voted for Bernie in the Kansas primary in 2016, but numerous clips of him trying to explain why he is not releasing taxes makes him look like he is hiding something.

His campaign advisor or PR person needs to jump on this ASAP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Bernie is looking silly with this tax return release delays.... (Original Post) USALiberal Apr 2019 OP
I know, certainly someone in his social networking team Amimnoch Apr 2019 #1
So when will Beto release his taxes? watoos Apr 2019 #2
Some haven't been running and promising for years. Amimnoch Apr 2019 #3
This whataboutism isn't going to help Bernie. yardwork Apr 2019 #9
Haha.. What About?! Cha Apr 2019 #14
Gillibrand has a history of publicly releasing her return every year. Blue_true Apr 2019 #35
Kirsten has released 10 years, not one. And Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren, and Jay Inslee pnwmom Apr 2019 #37
I don't think he is looking silly, especially when compared to rumps' claims that he's been ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #4
We need Full Transparency from All Cha Apr 2019 #15
True. Absolutely true for all of our candidates. And I feel like they all will. I trust our ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #17
Yeah, I was the starry eyed liberal who voted for him in the 2016 primary - but no more. lark Apr 2019 #5
I wonder if "suspicious" would be a better word to use, instead of "silly". NurseJackie Apr 2019 #6
THIS!!!!! MANative Apr 2019 #7
+1,000,000 oasis Apr 2019 #11
I think it would be the Cha Apr 2019 #16
Not silly. Something worse. This hurts Bernie's credibility. yardwork Apr 2019 #8
Exactly. Cha Apr 2019 #34
I agree. I'm tired of hearing about it. Release them already! vsrazdem Apr 2019 #10
I have to agree. CentralMass Apr 2019 #12
Wow! Cha Apr 2019 #23
Sure would be a good thing if they were released sooner than later floppyboo Apr 2019 #13
Just tell us who owns Old Towm Media, LLC Gothmog Apr 2019 #19
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Apr 2019 #18
Has Pete Buttigieg released his yet ? CentralMass Apr 2019 #20
When he says he will release them, then months later if he hasn't, I'll post about it also. nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #21
Pretty sure Pete is not lagging over 1,000 days as R B Garr Apr 2019 #22
Some pesky States are making it a law.. Cha Apr 2019 #24
I agree that Bernie needs to produce the goods but 2016 was one primary and this another. CentralMass Apr 2019 #27
It's been 1094 days since he said he would show his R B Garr Apr 2019 #32
Its not an issue that keeps me awake at night. I look foreard to him putting the issue to rest CentralMass Apr 2019 #33
He released them as mayor. So 7 years worth are in the public record. Blue_true Apr 2019 #36
He hasn't officially announced his candidacy, unlike Bernie. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #38
Well the news shows are starting to talk about it some...that ain't good. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #25
I just found out that Bernie has been avoiding showing his taxes, not for years. but GemDigger Apr 2019 #26
Bullshit. CentralMass Apr 2019 #28
3 years worth of something I cannot see because you link something that has a paywall GemDigger Apr 2019 #29
Senate financial disclosure forms have different info than US tax returns. pnwmom Apr 2019 #39
I clearly currently support Sanders but... DaGimpster Apr 2019 #30
K&R, Sanders should release *****FULL***** Tax Returns not just summaries uponit7771 Apr 2019 #31
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
1. I know, certainly someone in his social networking team
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:41 AM
Apr 2019

has the skills to modify them appropriately by now?!?!

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watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. So when will Beto release his taxes?
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:53 AM
Apr 2019

I see that Beto isn't committing how many years he will release. Be careful about calling out the splinter in someone else's eye.

Frankly I don't think that many of the Democratic candidates have released his/her taxes, some have released 10 even 12 years. Also I see that Kirsten only released 1 year, will that be the standard for all our candidates?

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Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
3. Some haven't been running and promising for years.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:59 AM
Apr 2019

He said he will just 2 days ago. I'm willing to give him a bit of time. Not 3 years though.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/04/02/beto-orourke-julian-castro-release-tax-returns-timing-unclear/

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yardwork

(61,538 posts)
9. This whataboutism isn't going to help Bernie.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:28 AM
Apr 2019

One by one, others who have declared for the presidency are releasing many years of returns.

Bernie is being compared to Trump. They are the only two who have been promising to release their returns for years and haven't.

Trump is not a good standard.

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Cha

(296,848 posts)
14. Haha.. What About?!
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 05:05 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. Gillibrand has a history of publicly releasing her return every year.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:08 AM
Apr 2019

She has done that every year of her political career. The 2018 just adds to what she has already released. I think Harris does the same thing, her past returns are in the public record.

As far as I can tell, among the majors only Beto and Buttigieg hasn't released, but I read that Buttigieg released past years returns as mayor, so those are in the public record.

Bernie really is the only person that seems to have an issue.

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pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
37. Kirsten has released 10 years, not one. And Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren, and Jay Inslee
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:53 AM
Apr 2019

have also all released at least 10 years.

Bernie is the only one, however, who started running 3 years ago, and never coughed up more than a single 7 page 2014 return.

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/18284271/kirsten-gillibrand-tax-returns-release

Gillibrand has now published her tax returns dating back 10 years.

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SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
4. I don't think he is looking silly, especially when compared to rumps' claims that he's been ...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:01 AM
Apr 2019

under a so called audit for what seems like forever. Yeah, sure. Crook's tax returns are riddled w/ fraud and this would be discovered should the tax returns be placed under a forensic accounting examination.

Remember rump crowing about one shouldn't pay taxes if they don't have to? I suspect that he took loads of unclaimed money from foreign entities and didn't claim it as income. Had to be a significant amount too. Should have been declared as income.

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Cha

(296,848 posts)
15. We need Full Transparency from All
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 05:13 PM
Apr 2019

our candidates in the primaries.

trump is not the bar.

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SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
17. True. Absolutely true for all of our candidates. And I feel like they all will. I trust our ...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 07:38 PM
Apr 2019

candidates.

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lark

(23,061 posts)
5. Yeah, I was the starry eyed liberal who voted for him in the 2016 primary - but no more.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:06 AM
Apr 2019

I had no idea about his taxes at the time. Now, 3 years later and he still has released no returns - makes me think his involvement with Ukraine and Manafort must have been more extensive than already realized? Of course, that's just a guess. Since he employed Manafort's' partner in the pro-Russian Ukraine government as his campaign manager, it also could be a real issue for him? If not that, there's bound to be some other fuckery in there or he'd have released it.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. I wonder if "suspicious" would be a better word to use, instead of "silly".
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:15 AM
Apr 2019
His campaign advisor or PR person needs to jump on this ASAP.
Could it be that he (and Jane) and the campaign director/s have ALREADY made a cynical and calculated decision that there would be less damage from NOT releasing them, compared to the damage of actually releasing them as promised?

This is a great big "fuck you" to the American voters and to the other candidates.

It's the political equivalent of "Pleading-the-Fifth" ... and although that's not legal proof of wrongdoing, it certainly does make people wonder what's being hidden.

People deserve to know if the candidate they're thinking of voting for is honest and that he (or she) is not a "tax-cheat". The voters are entitled to know where a candidate's money comes from, how it's being invested, donated, saved. Is the money in a domestic bank or in some off-shore haven? Is the candidate generously giving to his/her favorite charities? If so, what are they? There's MUCH to be learned about a candidate by looking at his or her full and complete tax returns.

Personally, I think it's hypocritical for ANYONE to be lecturing other politicians about how important things like "honesty" and "transparency" are... and then to completely ignore that standard. Any candidate who does that would be revealing his (or her) hypocrisy.

It's my belief that anyone who doesn't release their full and complete tax returns (for at LEAST ten years prior... no "summaries" and no "corrections" or "re-filing'') should be disqualified and ineligible from appearing in any DNC debates.
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Cha

(296,848 posts)
16. I think it would be the
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 05:14 PM
Apr 2019

Best WORD!

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yardwork

(61,538 posts)
8. Not silly. Something worse. This hurts Bernie's credibility.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:25 AM
Apr 2019

The delay is due either to incompetence or a cover-up. Neither is a good look.

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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
10. I agree. I'm tired of hearing about it. Release them already!
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:57 AM
Apr 2019
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Undecided
 

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
13. Sure would be a good thing if they were released sooner than later
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 01:16 PM
Apr 2019

This really shouldn't be an issue, but delaying is making it one.
Get off the pot Bernie!

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Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
19. Just tell us who owns Old Towm Media, LLC
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:07 PM
Apr 2019
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Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
18. From the Hoarse Whisperer
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:06 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
20. Has Pete Buttigieg released his yet ?
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:22 PM
Apr 2019
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Undecided
 

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
21. When he says he will release them, then months later if he hasn't, I'll post about it also. nt
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:38 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
22. Pretty sure Pete is not lagging over 1,000 days as
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:02 PM
Apr 2019

is Sanders.

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Cha

(296,848 posts)
24. Some pesky States are making it a law..
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:18 PM
Apr 2019

because of trump.. you'd think that would be a Huge Hint!


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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
27. I agree that Bernie needs to produce the goods but 2016 was one primary and this another.
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 01:24 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
32. It's been 1094 days since he said he would show his
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 01:31 PM
Apr 2019

taxes. This is just a fresh excuse that his fans think will mitigate the fact that he’s had years.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
33. Its not an issue that keeps me awake at night. I look foreard to him putting the issue to rest
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 01:46 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. He released them as mayor. So 7 years worth are in the public record.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:13 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie is the only candidate that has never released full returns.

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pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
38. He hasn't officially announced his candidacy, unlike Bernie. n/t
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:08 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
25. Well the news shows are starting to talk about it some...that ain't good. nt
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:19 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
26. I just found out that Bernie has been avoiding showing his taxes, not for years. but
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:52 PM
Apr 2019

for decades.

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GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
29. 3 years worth of something I cannot see because you link something that has a paywall
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 11:12 AM
Apr 2019

Show me something I and Joe Public can see then you have something to work on. He has been in office for decades not three just years and it wasn't given to the public. You know, the voters.

"I didn't end up doing it because I didn't win the nomination, if we had won the nomination we would have". Bernie, last week.

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pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
39. Senate financial disclosure forms have different info than US tax returns.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:10 AM
Apr 2019

One of them doesn't substitute for the other.

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DaGimpster

(130 posts)
30. I clearly currently support Sanders but...
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 11:20 AM
Apr 2019

...would like him to get these out, and behind him. I'm not going to defend Sanders on this issue for sure.

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uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
31. K&R, Sanders should release *****FULL***** Tax Returns not just summaries
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 11:29 AM
Apr 2019
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