***** DEBATE THREAD #6 *****

[TexasTowelie]

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[Renew Deal]

1. First

[Lefta Dissenter]

5. darn it!

It's the band-aid on my finger that slowed me down.

[TexasTowelie]

13. This isn't SCE's Sunday LOL Cats thread.

No extra credit will be awarded for being first.

[Lefta Dissenter]

2. mission accomplished!

[UniteFightBack]

3. Oh I don't have any slow load problem.

[DURHAM D]

4. Not a fan of Sippy Cup but this needs to be posted -

Link to tweet

Bernie: I'm angry!
Klobuchar: I'm normal!
Biden: I was THERE!
Warren: I'm still here!
Pete: I'm...not the problem.
Bloomberg: I'm...too rich for these questions.
#DemDebate

[krissey]

27. lol

[PatSeg]

116. Ha, ha, thanks!!!

[LaurenOlimina]

6. Insane tonight.

[TruckFump]

9. True.

It's like watching SNL with character actors who really, really look like the candidates they are portraying!

[Prue]

42. I'm worried about their health

Some candidates look like they're about to bust an artery. lol

[Merlot]

65. Probably has more to do with bad make-up and lighting, extreme close-ups

[Renew Deal]

7. Bloomberg nails Sanders for "writing the tax code."

[cherryinpa]

11. That part

Didn’t make sense.

Bloomberg is blaming Democrats for the outrageous tax giveaway?

[Renew Deal]

17. Taxes didn't start in 2017

I don't know if people would buy the argument, but I am certain that Sanders must have voted for at least some tax bills.

[IcyPeas]

8. not liking Bloomberg or Bernie

[TruckFump]

12. Bloomberg is wearing on me.

Not coming across as electable.

[IcyPeas]

15. no wonder he doesn't debate. he is not very good.

I don't understand how he all of a sudden got so high in the polls.

[TruckFump]

23. With the money he has, he should have hired a coach.

LOL, speaking of coaches...maybe Gym Jordan will be out of a job and available in the near future!

[squirecam]

25. Ads and millions

And not answering questions in town halls and in debates.

As we see, that’s his weakness.

[PatSeg]

72. He's good at spending money

[cannabis_flower]

108. He has great commerical

and lots of money to run them constantly.. I see them a lot here in Texas. But they are not convincing me to vote for him.

[tblue37]

136. $ for innumerable ads, plus pundits pushing the notion that HE would be most electable. nt

[emmaverybo]

37. Really not! The protest speaking style works best at a protest on a card board box, but so

Unpresidential sounding. Need those cool notes now and then.

[TruckFump]

49. Agree.

He just comes across non-presidential totally. Well, maybe a la the Trump prez style!

[McKim]

47. His Cheap Red Baiting Was So Worn Out!

Bloomberg’s Red Baiting using the Communism word was a cheap shot. This is so worn out. Joe McCarthy died a long time ago, thank you!

[TruckFump]

61. Dated...that's why he is making me uncomfortable.

His content and style -- both are stale.

[emmaverybo]

145. Thanks Pete. We absolutely need to be reminded how out of line with our party's ideals this

man is!

[TruckFump]

160. Pete did a good job highlighting this.

Hopefully with the dismal performance tonight, Bloomberg is going to tank in the opinion polls and allow someone with a real chance of beating Trump come back up in the polls.

My #1 goal for 2020 is BEAT TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!

[we can do it]

30. Both like nails on blackboard.

[Renew Deal]

10. Klobuchar: "I believe in capitalism"

Slight applause

[Sparkly]

19. They all do.

[ancianita]

14. GO BERNIE! He is right. This wealth differential IS grotesque.

[katmondoo]

16. Bernie is getting too angry, he should calm down before he brings on another heart attack.

[ancianita]

22. I see him as passionate, not old.

[Sparkly]

32. I see him as grouchy and constantly describing the problems.

Not proposing real solutions. He imagines there are no Republicans in the Congress or the constituency.

[Maru Kitteh]

71. Well, you may not "see" him as an old guy who had a heart attack, but he is old.

"Middle old", medically, and he has had at least one heart attack.

[NJCher]

124. yes, that would be the correct term

"passionate."

He cares. He's committed, and has been fighting this battle for decades.

[LaurenOlimina]

24. He's getting redder and redder

[Tumbulu]

33. He is just so nutty!

What an utter jerk!

[yaesu]

18. I think they all are doing a good job tonight which is making it hard for us undecided

My short primary list isn't getting any shorter tonight.

[NedBraden]

20. Biden!

Whoa.....like where has Biden been the last few weeks?

He's on fire tonight!!!!!

That's the Joe that can kill Cheato!!!!

[squirecam]

29. THIS is the Biden that can win.

Hope he sticks around.

[trueblue2007]

36. THIS is the Biden that can win. Hope he sticks around.

[Deero]

55. Rocky

always had to get knocked down a few times before he started to bring it.

Americans love a comeback story.

[mzmolly]

127. Indeed!

[Renew Deal]

21. Question to Bloomberg: "Should you have that much money."

Bloomberg: Yes, I worked very hard for it. And I give a lot of it away.

[ancianita]

26. Thing is, Mike, you're not representative of the rest of the billionaires who won't and you know it.

[napi21]

66. Hate me, but he's right. IF he worked for it, he deserves to get it. That doesn't mean that his

workers shouldn't have been paid more! That's what happened to our wages. It used to be the boss only made 4 times more than the employees. That's gone away Now those bosses earn 50-60 times the employees. That's how the Bloomberg's of the world making billions wouldn't exist.

[SweetieD]

122. Bloomberg hasn't worked harder than you or me. Becoming a billionaire has nothing to do

With just working hard.

[Blue_true]

165. Have you ever owned a business?

If you haven't, give it a try. You will be the first to show up, the last to leave by a mile, you won't have weekends because issues hit you around the clock and YOU have to solve them.

[tblue37]

161. CEOs make 350 times what the lowest paid workers make in their companies make. nt

[Blue_true]

166. A business owner and a CEO are not the same. nt

[Blue_true]

164. From what I understand, he has always paid his workers well.

Enough that a person could stop working after a decade if they chose to.

I own a business. Believe me, there are a lot more expense items than salaries that a business owner has to deal with.

You should try being the place where the buck stops, it is not the dreamland that you imagine.

[Renew Deal]

28. Buttigieg: I'm so poor, I opened a gmail account just so I could eat the spam

Just kidding. But he claimed that he was the only one that wasn't a millionaire, let alone a billionaire.

[madaboutharry]

48. He is the only one who is not a millionaire.

That is a fact.

The rest are millionaires. Including Amy. Elizabeth Warren is worth $15,000,0000.

[BlueSpot]

89. I suspect he will be a millionaire by the time he's her age n/t

[spooky3]

138. Agree nt

[eilen]

153. Isn't he half their age? nt

[Renew Deal]

155. It was a joke

from me

[TruckFump]

31. WOW........GO. JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about on fire!!!!!!

[bdamomma]

34. Mayor Pete

he's a nice guy.

[Mossfern]

39. He also seems

very pragmatic.

[LaurenOlimina]

35. Ya know... Fuck Bloomberg

I don't think I could vote for him.. ever.

[cherryinpa]

41. He really screwed up

I don’t know how he could have done more to come across as an asshole.

[TruckFump]

119. Bad, bad debate for him.

Maybe he will go away and just spend money on anti-tRump ads.

[littlemissmartypants]

38. Clearly Warren is the smartest person in the room. nt

[Tumbulu]

43. She is, and Amy and Pete after her

[Tumbulu]

40. I think Bloomberg is correct!

Bernie is too crazy!

[apcalc]

44. The thought of 4 years of angry old man....yikes

[bullwinkle428]

54. Which one?

[LaurenOlimina]

46. Bloomberg is an entitled prick isn't he?

[littlemissmartypants]

52. He is coming off a bit arrogant. nt

[Chemisse]

130. He certainly comes off that way.

[demtenjeep]

159. Amy likes to name drop

but no replies that make sense

[uponit7771]

57. Maybe but he hasn't said near the racist shit Bloomberg has.

[NJCher]

91. that's a Trump talking point

eom

[ancianita]

45. LIZ' wealth tax plan LIST is LONG AND CLEAR AND KNOCKS THE WEALTH TAX ISSUE OUT OF THE PARK!

[DURHAM D]

50. All the Bernie supporters I know are only about cancellation of their student loans...

guess they have tuned out and gone to bed.

[emmaverybo]

51. Sander's ranting is bad tonight.

[we can do it]

56. Tiring.

[UniteFightBack]

59. It's in overdrive. nt

[Renew Deal]

53. Bloomberg: The most famous socialist here is a millionaire with three houses

[DURHAM D]

63. .

[Zorro]

67. Bernie has three houses?

I did not know that.

[elleng]

76. DC, Burlington, and 'vacation place' somewhere.

[PatSeg]

107. His explanation was reasonable

Though it was explained too angrily. He needs to dial it back.

[Zorro]

137. Yes he seemed peeved to have Bloomberg bring it up

[krissey]

80. ha hahahah. That made me laugh.

[George II]

118. I'm coining a new expression to replace "Boom" - "Bloom!!"

[ancianita]

58. Nope, Mike. Liz is not half right. You're all wrong.

[uponit7771]

83. +1

[Renew Deal]

60. Biden just started with the "I'm so poor" routine

lol

[napi21]

78. Compared with Bloomie he is! n/t

[Takket]

62. raising taxes on the rich does nothing when they hide all their money off shore and in capital gains

[Chemisse]

64. It's annoying how Elizabeth always has her hand up urgently,

mouths words to the mods, and even bounces a bit like a third grader - EVERY time - and then just blurts out what she wants to say.

She does this in every debate.

[ancianita]

70. Biden did great on wealth taxation.

[Sparkly]

75. It's amazing how often she and especially Klobuchar aren't recognized.

Especially Klobuchar.

[Sparkly]

85. Good Lord, Chuck, Let AMY TALK!!!!

[squirecam]

134. It's total BS

They are terrible tonight.

[Chemisse]

106. Agree about Amy but Liz is constantly talking!

[emmaverybo]

105. That and bringing every issue around to people of color and AA communities when she honestly

was never that much into racial inequality when she started.

[Renew Deal]

68. Bloomberg might have forgotten Warren's name

"The senator next to me."

[ecstatic]

79. Nah. He didn't forget. He's still reeling from all the takedowns. nt

[uponit7771]

90. +1, she whooped his azz tonight

[elleng]

69. GOOD explanation of democratic socialism vs. capitalism by Sen. Sanders.

[ecstatic]

73. Did Bernie just say most Vermonters have summer homes?

[UniteFightBack]

82. Yes or 'camps'. Don't all working class people do?

[ecstatic]

87. smfh. The hypocrisy is unreal.

Do as I say, not as I do!

[krissey]

101. It truly is about any direction you look at the man.

[bullwinkle428]

140. I thought he said "cabin".

[VarryOn]

74. The shine came off Bloomberg tonight...

Notwithstanding good performances from Biden, Warren, Pete and Klobuchar, Sanders isn't being knocked off his perch. My belief now is the same as it was before debate--Sanders will be the nominee.

[UniteFightBack]

77. Not if we get behind Biden....nt

[emmaverybo]

129. Agree.

[VarryOn]

131. If I could vote tonight, he'd get my vote...

I've never vacillated over an election so much in my life! Not something I relish doing.

[ancianita]

81. He's strong. They all are. YOu're probably right.

[cherryinpa]

86. Yes

Bloomberg is out.

But Warren back in.

[still_one]

92. If that happens, then the odds are good that we will see trump for four more years in my opinion

[maximusveritas]

142. Yeah, it's going to be up to higher ups in the party

to step in and force those with lowest chance to step down for the good of the party/country

[still_one]

152. That won't happen. Candidates willl stay in as long as they have the money to do so

[VarryOn]

150. Yeah, I agree...

I'd at least like accepting that fact well in advance of the election. I don't think I can take another punch in the gut like last time.

I see an off-the-grid vacation the week of election this year.

[still_one]

169. Of course I hope that doesn't happen, but to your point I agree, not another punch in the gut.

[VarryOn]

170. I was in Jacksonville, FL on biz that night in 2016...

I was staying at a Springhill Suites right outside the airport in room 216. Everytime I go past that hotel, I relive it! It's one of those moments in life that made an indelible psychological mark!

It was horrific! I will shield myself from that experience anyway I can. Maybe I need to get one of those emotion support ponies, just in case! LOL

[still_one]

171. I definitely hear ya. Everytime I drive by where I did the call banking for Hillary, it does the

same thing for me

[Miles Archer]

147. If Joe can stand firm on what he's done tonight, I don't believe Sanders will be the nominee.

Look at all of the "Where has THIS Joe been" comments, and we're not the only ones watching.

If he can be THIS guy from tonight forward, he's got a strong shot.

He was my chosen candidate from the beginning, and I haven't changed my opinion.

And yes, the standard statement still applies...I will vote for the Democratic nominee, no matter who is chosen.

And I still want that nominee to be Joe.

[still_one]

168. I am on that same page, i.e. wanting Joe as the nominee, I am just not sure if the debates have that

much effect

[Renew Deal]

84. Sanders turns red when challenged

[IcyPeas]

94. when they had that split screen a minute ago

pete looked very pale and bernie looked very red..... I think it might be too much makeup.

[JudyM]

110. When a lie about his policy is asserted. No copays, no premiums, etc is less out of pocket.

Any tax increase is more than offset financially PLUS results in easier and more comprehensive medical care.

[uponit7771]

111. +1, he should've been prepared for some of the quips from Bloomberg they've been talking points

[PaulRevere08]

117. F#uck I hate Chuck and this format.

Turning this off but will still vote for ANY of these candidates in november

[Renew Deal]

88. Warren attacking the entire stage again.

[uponit7771]

93. +1, don't see where this gets her

[maximusveritas]

112. She's in desperation mode

what other option does she have?

[BlueIdaho]

97. This is a bad night for Warren.

Expect her numbers to go down after tonight.

[apcalc]

99. Biden doing well... maybe Biden/Warren, Biden/Klobuchar

[demtenjeep]

157. Biden / Pete

with Biden one term and Pete 2 terms that is 12 years of Democratic rule. Will take that long to undo the shit dotard has done

[tblue37]

162. I keep harping on it, but Stacy Abrams should be VP. nt

[squirecam]

100. Yes

and I’m tired of Amy being interrupted.

As soon as she pivots to something positive she gets cut off. The moderators only want blood.

[ancianita]

104. Might as well show she can stand out on certain issues and defend them. She's not just

"got plans."

NO one on that stage has built a government agency from the ground up. She has.

[Renew Deal]

133. She needs to attack Sanders if she wants to move the numbers

She won't get anything significant from Klobuchar and Biden/Buttigieg supporters probably won't go to her.

[Sparkly]

120. She is disappointing me tonight.

Sorry to say.

[StevieM]

95. That was another unfair shot by Warren against Mayor Pete.

He deserves much more respect than she is giving him.

[CalFione]

96. Yikes. Liz just had her worst moment of the debate

Any time you get that many groans from the crowd it is never good.


Attacking Joe and Amy fell *FLAT*.

[Renew Deal]

113. I don't know what she thinks she gains by attacking Klobuchar

I guess she wants to knock off a few supporters, but there aren't that many to knock off. Have to wonder if it's a gender thing.

She doesn't attack Sanders and I think she fears Buttigieg.

[krissey]

135. I am hearing Warren is going after Buttigieg all over the place, from what people say. Not watching.

[Renew Deal]

151. It was more early

Klobuchar is her #1 target. Bloomberg is #2. Then the rest except Sanders.

[krissey]

115. What was the attack?

[maximusveritas]

128. Said they are trying to be buddies with Republicans like McConnell

just because they talk about finding common ground to get something accomplished

[krissey]

146. Ah, well this is one of the reasons I prefer Warren to others. I am so tired of trying to find

common ground with the likes of Mitchell when he has made clear for over a decade he had no interest at all. Trying to find common ground lost us a SC seat.

[krissey]

149. Thanks

[Takket]

143. i don't know...........

he said that "Joe and Amy's hearts are in the right place, but we can't be eager to please Mitch McConnell", did she mean Biden and Klobuchar are trying to please McConnell? Biden isn't even a senator anymore so I don't get the comment.........

[squirecam]

123. She is far to angry

And looks desperate. But only to attack everyone but Sanders.....

[ancianita]

141. What did she say? there was so much cross talk I didn't catch it.

[Renew Deal]

98. Commercial break

[Sparkly]

102. They gave Amy 20 seconds (I counted) before interrupting her

after making her wait for how long to even say ANYthing -- ??!!??

[elleng]

132. Right, watching some damn clock.

Some 'moderators' appear more constrained than others, about these.

[uponit7771]

103. Tuck Chodd is soooooooooooooooo ... half time, sophomoric

[littlemissmartypants]

125. He's an ass. My NotSo HO. nt

[TexasTowelie]

109. Moving on to thread #7.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287543273

[apcalc]

114. Chuck Todd....ugh...so ingratiating

[Mossfern]

121. Were they all coached

to shout and insult each other?
Is this training for debating Trump?

Just wondering...

[LaurenOlimina]

126. Thread #7

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287543273

[rzemanfl]

144. I have gone, Pete, Joe, Bloomberg, now back to Pete.

These debates. He is the only calm one.

[underthematrix]

148. My reaction to the debate

Link to tweet

[emmaverybo]

154. Warren is on a rampage tonight.

[DURHAM D]

156. Vanessa has a thing about Amy.

Sad and stupid.

[bamagal62]

158. So, here is my take. The only 2 that will have a chance are

Biden and Warren. If Biden and Trump debate, Trump will chew Biden up and spit him out. There are a lot of men that don’t like Warren. My husband is one of them. He can’t articulate why. He just doesn’t like her. So, what do we do? Can we get Michelle Obama to reconsider?

[ecstatic]

163. Does he still not like her after tonight? nt

[Jarqui]

167. Was that the gurgle of tens of millions of Bloomberg advertising dollars

swirling down a political toilet?