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Poeraria

(219 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:54 PM Feb 2020

I believe 23 states are Open Primary states in which any voter can participate.

Republicans are going to show up in droves to vote for Bernie.

I wonder how other candidates would preform if the nominating process was restricted to Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I believe 23 states are Open Primary states in which any voter can participate. (Original Post) Poeraria Feb 2020 OP
Droves might be a stretch. There could be a few percentage point bump, but I doubt more 33taw Feb 2020 #1
GOP and Russia are (again) propping Bernie up for Dems to fall joost5 Feb 2020 #2
And should the issue be decided in a brokered election, Bernie Bros will scream,"Rigged". Poeraria Feb 2020 #3
Tulsi G is gearing up for an independent run as a spoiler joost5 Feb 2020 #18
I agree. Droves. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #4
The effort is already being promoted on Reich-wing radio, and by Trump himself. Poeraria Feb 2020 #7
Exactly. AND no one has done one thing since 2016 LakeArenal Feb 2020 #9
Georgia has open primaries. greymattermom Feb 2020 #5
No problem beathimlikeadrum Feb 2020 #6
In a race that includes this many names on the ballot, any effort focused on one candidate is huge. Poeraria Feb 2020 #8
Actually it is a problem, and why Newman lost to Lipinski, because of republicans cross over votes still_one Feb 2020 #11
This Open Primary Crap is Exactly The Reason We'll Always Have that SOB Lipinski Indykatie Feb 2020 #14
Exactly still_one Feb 2020 #15
I don't know if that will happen or not, but the Democratic Party, especially in California, has still_one Feb 2020 #10
This was a topic at my family Christmas gathering... VarryOn Feb 2020 #12
Greatly outperforming the polls would be evidence of that. Mister Ed Feb 2020 #13
The DNC really need to address an anomaly like this. I understand that they want to be inclusive to OnDoutside Feb 2020 #16
I can't believe 23 states allow Russians to vote nobuddy Feb 2020 #17
 

33taw

(2,436 posts)
1. Droves might be a stretch. There could be a few percentage point bump, but I doubt more
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:01 PM
Feb 2020

than that. Bernie is topping out at 25 % in states that he is doing well. I think we are looking at a brokered convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

joost5

(421 posts)
2. GOP and Russia are (again) propping Bernie up for Dems to fall
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:02 PM
Feb 2020

I love Bernie but GOP would love to run against Bernie most, paint all of us unfairly as Socialists and win down ballot elections. I donated $1 to Drumpf so I get his campaign lit and it already is using those scare tactics and how Dems are going to install more socialism. He'd say that about any Dem but it'll be so much worse with a self-described democratic socialist leading the ticket. We're in trouble if that happens IMHO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Poeraria

(219 posts)
3. And should the issue be decided in a brokered election, Bernie Bros will scream,"Rigged".
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020

And take their ball and go home, abandon the Democratic candidate, and give us Trump for 4 more years. Who is the Green Party running this go 'round?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

joost5

(421 posts)
18. Tulsi G is gearing up for an independent run as a spoiler
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:02 PM
Feb 2020

like how Moscow Jill Stein was groomed by Russia to be one in 2016 and give Drumpf the win.

After Super Tuesday we'll get a sense of who will make it to Milwaukee. Moderates will coalesce behind the moderate candidate with the most delegates (currently TBD), and the total from those delegates may exceed Bernie's count. It may be perceived as "rigged" but that's how democracy works. Majority rules.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Poeraria

(219 posts)
7. The effort is already being promoted on Reich-wing radio, and by Trump himself.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:12 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
9. Exactly. AND no one has done one thing since 2016
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:15 PM
Feb 2020

Especially FaceBook or trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
5. Georgia has open primaries.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:11 PM
Feb 2020

You just tell them which ballot you want. To make it worse, the presidential and senate primaries are on different dates. There is no reason for a Republican to show up on March 24. If turn out in the presidential primary is unusually high, it would be because... droves.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beathimlikeadrum

(31 posts)
6. No problem
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:12 PM
Feb 2020

They always talk about doing this but then only a very small few bother going out of their way to do it. Shouldn't be a major factor.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Poeraria

(219 posts)
8. In a race that includes this many names on the ballot, any effort focused on one candidate is huge.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:13 PM
Feb 2020

This is a nightmare that we are racing into.

In addition, Republicans have no primary to worry about, so they have the luxury of filling our polling places.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,061 posts)
11. Actually it is a problem, and why Newman lost to Lipinski, because of republicans cross over votes
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:25 PM
Feb 2020

In California, the republicans only allow registered republicans to vote in their primary

The California Democratic Party though problem with those who are registered as no party preference to vote in our primary, and newsom just made it easy for non Democrats to vote in the Democratic primary by allowing same day registration on Election Day, which will allow a republican to change their registration to Democratic or NPP, vote in the Democratic primary, and change their registration back to republican

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
14. This Open Primary Crap is Exactly The Reason We'll Always Have that SOB Lipinski
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:31 PM
Feb 2020

Dems need to fix this sh*t.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,061 posts)
10. I don't know if that will happen or not, but the Democratic Party, especially in California, has
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:17 PM
Feb 2020

made it extremely easy for non Democrats to vote in our primary, and in my view, that is f**ked up

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
12. This was a topic at my family Christmas gathering...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:58 PM
Feb 2020

In January (we do it after Xmas usually). A cousin and I are the only Dems that are open about it. The Trump-loving patriarch of the family, my uncle, was pushing everyone to vote in the Democratic Primary and do so for Sanders.

I’ve had a couple Republican friends tell me they are temporary Bernie Bros.

So...just anecdotal...but I can see it having an impact in some places.

Open primaries ought not be!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mister Ed

(5,924 posts)
13. Greatly outperforming the polls would be evidence of that.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:27 PM
Feb 2020

Not proof, but evidence.

A stonger-than-expected showing for a candidate in those states might be a sign of GOP voters showing up in droves to vote for that candidate, since it's unlikely that GOP Interlopers would have also managed to falsely represent themselves as Democrats to pollsters in proportionate numbers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
16. The DNC really need to address an anomaly like this. I understand that they want to be inclusive to
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
Feb 2020

liberal independents, but this it really is crazy that you can have someone so far to the left who hates the Democratic Party, running under the Democratic banner, and not even a member of the party. Any future candidate should be a member of the party for at least 3 years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nobuddy

(215 posts)
17. I can't believe 23 states allow Russians to vote
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:40 PM
Feb 2020

Democracy is dead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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