Let's say Bernie wins the nomination as expected

[GanjaGrower]

Then loses handily to Trump in the general election.

What changes if any do you see the DNC making?

And for the Bernie supporters, if this were to occur would you be in favor of switching back to an Obama-style incremental approach to change, or would you still be in favor of radical transformative change to some of the key areas of debate in America (healthcare, climate change, worker’s rights, wealth gap, etc)?

[drray23]

1. If this happens all the hardcore Bernie supporters posting on DU

Will suddenly evaporate I suspect.

[Squinch]

2. I'd say many will disappear after the primary and before the GE.

[rzemanfl]

3. You really think the DNC will be allowed to exist under the conditions you

posit?

[MontanaMama]

4. Well IF Sanders wins the nomination...

and loses the GE and we don’t flip the Senate, I don’t see that the DNC can do anything that will make a difference. We will lose the courts for decades...the DOJ will continue to deteriorate, Russia will have a stronger foothold, GOP corruption will know no bounds and our climate will continue to warm. I don’t see any path forward for the DNC is we don’t win this thing. I wish I did.

[Initech]

5. Trump will start arresting all of his political opponents...

And there will be no more DNC. And I can totally picture that scenario happening. We must defeat him at all costs!

[jalan48]

6. Climate change is not going to allow for incremental change. We're running out of time.

[GanjaGrower]

10. We have time to get it right

There needs to be an international focus on Asia, primarily China and India. If we can’t pressure them into changing their emissions and pollution then all the great work the US and Europe have done so far is for naught.

Those countries aren’t going to change overnight, it’s just not possible, but who’s to say we can’t get it fixed over an incremental 20-30 year span?

[jalan48]

11. I don't think Americans are willing to give up their lifestyles and there appears to be little

support for any green new deal program.

[Democrats Ascendant]

15. Ummm...

China is making incredible strides very quickly. Yes, there's still a long way to go, but make no mistake that they are capitalizing on the huge new climate economy. For instance, China was already outpacing the US in solar wattage in 2017, with India and Pakistan in the top 10.
https://www.energydigital.com/renewable-energy/top-10-solar-producing-countries

[Democrats Ascendant]

12. This is what I was going to write.

Also, health insurance (especially as the ACA is being devastated by Trump) is not something most people can afford to wait on.

[Moderateguy]

7. If the republicans are in total control in Washington

I expect the Democratic Party will have been outlawed by 2024

[LakeArenal]

8. "As expected". Geez us. No he isn't expected.

[NurseJackie]

9. Strict rules to prevent interlopers.

What changes if any do you see the DNC making?

Strict rules to prevent interlopers and abuse of the system from non party members (regardless of how they "caucus'') ... we should ONLY nominate Democrats.

We should eliminate caucuses.

We should eliminate open primaries and "same-day" party switching.

Or... just eliminate primaries completely and go back to letting the party choose the nominee in "smoke filled rooms".

[GanjaGrower]

13. Solid ideas imo

Well maybe not the last one, but I know it was in jest lol

[NurseJackie]

17. Well, I don't know about that.

Well maybe not the last one, but I know it was in jest lol

Well, I don't know about that. Lacking their ability to implement the other ones, we may as well go back to back-room party-selected candidates... like the good-old-days (as they say).

Otherwise... why bother having a party at all, if ANYONE can be a candidate and if ANYONE (member or not) can fuck around with party business.

I think our party's lax and open rules/standards/regulations only serve to dilute our strength and bonds as an actual party, and it makes it SO EASY for the GOP and Russia to manipulate and interfere. We need stricter controls.

[Ron Green]

14. You want to drill down a bit to what's really coming?

1. If Bernie is nominated and offers a “revolution” in true solidarity, yet loses to Trump, the dystopia is pretty much at hand, and we’ll continue to the collapse.

2. If Bernie is nominated and wins, well we can begin the business of finding out about this revolution and trying out the changes he’s been espousing. Maybe we can avoid the collapse, maybe not.

3. If Bernie is not nominated and Trump beats a Democrat, see #1.

4. If Bernie is not nominated and a Democrat wins, we’ll see the attempt to claw back to Normalcy, or whatever we’ve been doing for the past few decades. The collapse will be delayed, but probably not avoided.

No politician wants to preside over the collapse. So it’s understandable that no politician will tell the whole truth. Some tell more than others, though.

[democratisphere]

16. Nothing says BS will win the Presidential noination.

If Democrats are successful in taking back the WH, they will also need a 60% majority in the Senate and must retain the House in order to get anything done. It will take years to reassemble our former government with all of intricacies. It will take many years to accomplish anything else.

[Demsrule86]

18. If we win the Senate, the filibuster must go.

If of course and only if we have the presidency...we must accomplish something. It could be decades before we retake the Senate.

[msongs]

19. will there be a mass suicide in the bernie supporters? nt

[frazzled]

20. First, change back to closed primaries

The party (both parties, actually) needs to take back control of its own agenda and processes.

I think it started changing in response to successful third-party challenges from the likes of Perot and Anderson back in the day. Everyone wanted those independents. What we got in the end was Trump and now possibly Sanders ... neither one an example of their party’s agenda. Both dealing in the politics of grievance, both railing against the party establishments, both lone-wolf actors.

I think you should be a registered Democrat to have a say in the nominee of your party. And I dare say, you should have to declare that registration at least a month before Election Day.

[GanjaGrower]

23. Great post

I agree 100%

[MFM008]

21. Thats ok

If Sanders loses he will run again in 2024 in his mid 80s.

[Voltaire2]

22. When a centrists loses we are told we need to

double down on another centrist.

So like whatever.

[uponit7771]

24. The messengers will be blamed