why exactly does Putin love Bernie?

[subana]

I think we need to ask ourselves why we should vote for a candidate that Putin loves so much? After reading this, if you still think voting for Bernie is the right choice, you're making this way to easy for Russia!!

“If Sanders wins the Democratic nomination, then Trump wins the White House,” predicts Igor Yurgens, president of the Institute of Contemporary Development, and a former advisor to erstwhile Russian president Dmitry Medvedev. “America won’t vote for such a leftie candidate. If you’re sitting in the [FSB headquarters at] Lubyanka and watching this race, you see that helping Sanders helps Trump. At least, that’s what I would do.”

Yurgens, who once told me that the Kremlin sees Trump as “our wrecking ball,” believes that the Putin regime is hoping for a second Trump term, as does Pavlovsky. “Our favorite is Trump,” Yurgens says of how both the Russian elite and mainstream society view the American president. “He shares our ideology and has shown as much sympathy to Russia as was humanly possible. The mainstream and the media support him and will do anything that helps Trump win, including supporting Sanders.”

Over the weekend, trying to make sense of what Russians might be thinking about Bernie Sanders, I also called Andranik Migranyan, who used to run a Russian government-funded think tank attached to the Russian mission to the U.N. Perhaps more notably, he’s also a close friend and former classmate of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. “I don’t think anyone really respects or values Sanders here,” Migranyan told me.

“It’s like a knife in the throat,” he went on. “The things Sanders says even Russian communists would be too scared to say. He is a real communist. I always said to Americans, ‘Your brilliant future is our horrible past.’ We collapsed into nothing because of Communism, and now this is the dream that Sanders is offering—and a big part of your country is following him into the abyss.” If Sanders secures the nomination, warns Polymeropoulos, the retired CIA officer, who worked to counter Russian interference after 2016, this is exactly the kind of attack you can expect to see from Russian bots. “Bernie’s socialist credentials is exactly the hot-button, divisive issue that Russia will seek to use to cause chaos,” says Polymeropoulos.

“I suspect that, for our people [at the top], Sanders looks like the mad professor from ‘Back to the Future,’” says Russian political scientist Ekaterina Schulmann, who teaches future government workers at the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration, in Moscow. “Which is why he’s very convenient for starting a pan-American brawl. Let them all fight each other while we lay another gas pipeline somewhere!”

And this, according to everyone I asked, is the central goal.

“The ideal scenario is to maintain the schism and uncertainty in the States till the end,” says Pavolvovsky. “Our candidate is chaos.”

“Russian active measures thrive on chaos, and this is what a second Trump term delivers,” says Polymeropoulos. “America is at war with itself politically for another four years. Advantage: Russia. Second, while it’s true that the Trump administration has at times been very tough on Russia with respect to sanctions, strategically, under the Trump administration, Russians have regained a foothold in the Middle East, NATO is weakened by a more disengaged America, and Trump’s disdain for Ukraine is a huge boon for Russia.”

https://www.gq.com/story/why-does-putin-love-bernie

[HarlanPepper]

1. He'll "love" him until the nomination is secured.

At then the switch will be flipped.

[betsuni]

16. I wonder if even then Sanders will understand that Russian interference is real.

He won't know what hit him. I can see him blaming everyone except Russia.

[subana]

19. true!

then he'll blame the democratic establishment!!

[jmg257]

2. And this right here is how "Russia meddles" in our election. But by

All means, let Putin decide your vote for you.

[ripcord]

9. You are giving Putin that power

Putin wants to divide and moderate democrats are joining him in his efforts by piling in Bernie.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. THIS x 1000!!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[subana]

13. yes, they are!

maybe this is why a lot of his fans are young people...because they're more likely to believe in a fairy tale world!

[jmg257]

14. ??? Piling in Bernie? Not sure what ur saying.

Not sure how i am giving putin power if I dont let him control my vote.

Very confused.

[subana]

21. I was confused by that comment too!!

it sounds like he's saying Putin is trying to divide moderates but I don't see a lot of moderates being swayed by Bernie! This is why the more established dems like Obama & others have tried to tell dems not to go too far left. Because they know that nowadays, moderates are the ones who end up deciding elections, not the extremists of either side.

I doubt that Putin even cares which groups he's dividing so long as he can cause chaos!

[jmg257]

22. Thanks...now actually think I got it...some are helping Putin by Pilling on Bernie

which is the actual putin goal -causing division (and NOT the support of any 1 candidate).

Cheers!!

[subana]

24. yes, Putin loves to cause division in this country!

but I still think his ultimate goal is to benefit trump!

[Kurt V.]

3. maybe he's interested in a wife swap. wtf ? he loves sanders?

this is putin in the 21st century. agent of chaos

[MissMillie]

4. An NYT editorial I read today

said that Putin is about creating divisiveness in the U.S. Throwing his support behind 45 and behind Sanders creates the greatest divide.

According to the editorial.

[subana]

10. exactly!!

[elleng]

5. 'Silly' question.

Putin 'loves' trump, who hands him what he wants; others perceived as not able to challenge trump.

[democratisphere]

6. Useful idiot.

[subana]

7. yes

& stupid americans are making it much too easy for Putin!!

[democratisphere]

8. So true.

[msongs]

11. because everyone must love bernie. not vote for his policies, love Him..with a capital H nt

[applegrove]

15. Maybe Putin helping Bernie will translate into Putin 'helping' Democrats

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into the GE and not Trump the Trump propaganda will say? So Trump will turn the Russia thing into a hoax in the minds of the independants because Russia will not be helping Trump this time around? Then Trump will say Mueller was a hoax. And by not helping Trump this time around Russia will be actually helping Trump's narrative in the 2020 general election. Maybe that is the plan. Because in 2016 Trump asked for Russia to find Hillary's emails into a microphone on the TV. This week he became enraged that his former Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire didn't stop, in the question section the House briefing, the naming of the Trump campaign as a beneficiary of Putin actions during the election this year. There was no direct proof and Trump fired him. So he knew there was no direct evidence as his minions are saying publicly in the last few days. It is his whole game. Why they can't seem to let the loss, of another accusation of Russia helping Trump, stick. It didn't matter to them in 2016. It matters to them now.

[subana]

23. that would be very nice!

at some point I expect Putin would do that but I don't see it happening now. Mainly because Trump is giving Putin so much support. Why would he back the dems now when Donnie is his greatest cheerleader?

No direct evidence? Mueller found a lot of evidence by indicting a large group of Russians & many of Donnie's campaign staff!

[rwheeler31]

17. It is so simple his nomination will help Trump win and hurt all of the Democrats.

[broiles]

18. +1

[DanTex]

20. He doesn't. He's just trying to sow discord among Dems to get Trump re-elected.