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ancianita

(36,023 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 11:01 PM Apr 2019

Why I Love Washington State Governor Jay Inslee -- Testimonial

1. Our state ranks number 1 in job and wage growth.



2. When our lawmakers are having hissy-fits with each other, Inslee steps in to get things done.

3. He's helping make Washington a nation-wide role model.

4. Like what all public officials should do, he's here for us.

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/why-love-jay-inslee



Above: Inslee signs a bill banning bump stocks in his state.

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Why I Love Washington State Governor Jay Inslee -- Testimonial (Original Post) ancianita Apr 2019 OP
Inslee's record as governor shines like a new penny. oasis Apr 2019 #1
The only Gov Cha Apr 2019 #2
No, there is another Governor running crazytown Apr 2019 #4
Ooops! I read that Cha Apr 2019 #11
K&R nt Andy823 Apr 2019 #3
I like learning more about him Politicub Apr 2019 #5
There is a CNN town hall this week with him Andy823 Apr 2019 #6
Loving the CNN Town Halls! Politicub Apr 2019 #7
I wanted to support him but his record of supporting commerical surrogacy has made that difficult StevieM Apr 2019 #8
Could you give an example of "commercial surrogacy"? ancianita Apr 2019 #9
Commercial surrogacy is when you allow surrogacy contracts to be for-profit. StevieM Apr 2019 #10
Thanks for the links. I'll check into them. ancianita Apr 2019 #12
Wow. That's a really weird, sticky thing out of way left field. He's got to answer for that. ancianita Apr 2019 #13
I think it is important to discuss this issue and take it into account when deciding who to support. StevieM Apr 2019 #14
What I see here is an equal rights of parentage act being important to the LGBTQ community. ancianita Apr 2019 #16
I am not trying to see problems with Inslee. As I said, I wish I could support him. StevieM Apr 2019 #18
You presented it is as an opening to illegal activity, when it legally protects the LGBTQ community. ancianita Apr 2019 #21
I wouldn't classify my concerns as being about illegal activity. StevieM Apr 2019 #22
It's about LGBTQ parenting. That's mostly what SB 6037 was about. I see no shadiness here. ancianita Apr 2019 #15
I never said it was shady, I said it was wrong. StevieM Apr 2019 #19
Really?? Not cool to show biased concerns of Republican arguments toward a Democratic candidate. ancianita Apr 2019 #17
I know what I read. And I know what has happened in other places in the past. StevieM Apr 2019 #20
Kick for Jay. oasis Apr 2019 #23
 

oasis

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1. Inslee's record as governor shines like a new penny.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:54 AM
Apr 2019
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Cha

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2. The only Gov
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:15 AM
Apr 2019

running, and just so happens from a successfully run state, Washington!.. and what a platform!

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crazytown

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4. No, there is another Governor running
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:02 PM
Apr 2019

Hickenlooper, a man with said ‘Fracking is good for the environment’

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Cha

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11. Ooops! I read that
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:18 PM
Apr 2019

Gov Inslee was the only Gov running and I tried to think of another one and couldn't do it.

And, Hickenlooper is from my home state, Colorado! I still forgot. I haven't been paying attention to him at all. There's so many others I'm interested in.

Thanks, crazytown. Can't imagine he'll get too far on "Fracking".

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Politicub

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5. I like learning more about him
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:26 PM
Apr 2019

He is keeping the focus on one of the most important issues of our lifetimes.

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Andy823

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6. There is a CNN town hall this week with him
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:28 PM
Apr 2019

Not sure but I think it might be Wednesday. I think a lot of people will like him once they here him speak on the issues. Right now he is pretty much an unknown candidate.

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Politicub

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7. Loving the CNN Town Halls!
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:29 PM
Apr 2019

I've learned a lot from them.

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StevieM

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8. I wanted to support him but his record of supporting commerical surrogacy has made that difficult
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:34 PM
Apr 2019

for me to do. I worry greatly about a society in which women are exploited for their wombs.

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ancianita

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9. Could you give an example of "commercial surrogacy"?
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:45 PM
Apr 2019
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StevieM

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10. Commercial surrogacy is when you allow surrogacy contracts to be for-profit.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:55 PM
Apr 2019

In other words, when you bring money into the equation beyond medical expenses.

I worry about a cottage industry developing, with all the abuses and coercion that often accompany these situations.

Here are a couple of articles worth reading. One is about the bill Inslee signed, the other is about the problems that I am concerned about.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/feb/09/surrogate-mothers-could-be-paid-more-than-their-ex/

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/may/26/the-surrogacy-industrys-dark-side/

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ancianita

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12. Thanks for the links. I'll check into them.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:41 PM
Apr 2019
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ancianita

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13. Wow. That's a really weird, sticky thing out of way left field. He's got to answer for that.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:46 PM
Apr 2019

Thanks for the heads up on the issue.

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StevieM

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14. I think it is important to discuss this issue and take it into account when deciding who to support.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:22 PM
Apr 2019

I understand that many Inslee supporters will continue to back his candidacy, even if they don't agree with him on this matter.

As I said, I had hoped to be an Inslee backer. I was calling for him to run all the way back in early 2017. In many ways I think he is the perfect candidate, at least by my standards. But this makes it very difficult for me to get behind him.

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ancianita

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16. What I see here is an equal rights of parentage act being important to the LGBTQ community.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019

Here's another report from Seattle's Lesbian Times.

http://theseattlelesbian.com/washingtons-uniform-parentage-act-signed-law/

https://www.legalvoice.org/uniform-parentage


I think you're trying to see problems where none exist. And you could well be giving more fuel to the anti-LGBTQ Republican Party.

This is a state-by-state issue and not part of the purview of a president.

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StevieM

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18. I am not trying to see problems with Inslee. As I said, I wish I could support him.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:24 PM
Apr 2019

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And I am the last person to fuel anti-LGBTQ sentiment.

I have a problem with commercial surrogacy. And I don't like that Inslee is a supporter.

I agree that it is a state issue, and that is the only reason I haven't completely shut the door on Inslee. But I have to choose who I want to serve as my president, and this is a huge strike against Inslee for me, possibly a disqualifying one.

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ancianita

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21. You presented it is as an opening to illegal activity, when it legally protects the LGBTQ community.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:36 PM
Apr 2019

I don't think you've given this much thought, and so if you want some candidate's perfection, you're doing it wrong. Especially with Jay Inslee.

Single issue voting is a long derided standard we've examined and criticized Republicans for across DU.

You let this single issue override the global climate issue and all the rest of Jay Inslee's accomplishments -- which makes your concern a little irrelevant since, whether you know it or not, most states' governors and candidates already have resolved your great worry as a legal rights issue.



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StevieM

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22. I wouldn't classify my concerns as being about illegal activity.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:46 PM
Apr 2019

I am concerned about what will be legal--coercion, manipulation and misinformation.

I agree that Jay Inslee is very accomplished and that climate change is the most important issue. That is why I have not completely ruled him out, at least not yet.

I can assure you that I have given this issue a lot of thought. I have simply come to a different conclusion than you. I don't see how this bill is necessary to protect LGBTQ families. I don't believe that opposing a for-profit surrogacy industry constitutes being hostile to the LGBTQ community.

I hope you read the second article I posted. I hardly think that Kathy Sloan, a National Organization for Women board member, is an anti-LGBTQ individual.

As for single issue voting, I didn't say that I would vote against him in a general election. But in a primary I have to decide who I like the best. As I said, I was excited to support Jay Inslee all the way back in 2017. He originally had my vote. But for now he has lost it.

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ancianita

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15. It's about LGBTQ parenting. That's mostly what SB 6037 was about. I see no shadiness here.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:52 PM
Apr 2019

Here are some of the key provisions of this update to the Uniform Parentage Act:

It allows people who are presumed to be a child’s parent under Washington law (including married same-sex couples who have children) or who are intended parents through the use of assisted reproduction to sign what is called a “voluntary acknowledgement of parentage.”

Under federal law, we believe every state in the country should be required to recognize a voluntary acknowledgement of parentage as proof that a person is a child’s legal parent. This provides a way for LGBTQ parents to help protect their rights in every state in the country, without having to go to court.

However, parents are still advised to consult with family law lawyers experienced in LGBTQ rights in order to decide what steps to take to ensure that their parental rights are protected.


It establishes clearer and simpler rules for courts to issue judgments that recognize a person as a legal parent of a child. Some LGBTQ parents in Washington have sought such “parentage judgments” in order to obtain a court order that recognizes them as a legal parent of a child.

This bill should make that process clearer for parents who may wish to pursue this option.

It creates a regulated system that allows compensated surrogacy in Washington State, while protecting the health, well-being, and autonomy of women acting as surrogates.

Legal Voice worked with the bill’s sponsor, Sen. Jamie Pedersen, to ensure that the bill provides strong protections for women acting as surrogates—protections that will help balance the power between intended parents and surrogates, ensuring that such arrangements are entered into knowingly, with care, and subject to legal oversight.


http://blog.legalvoice.org/2018/03/new-protections-for-lgbtq-parents-in.html
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StevieM

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19. I never said it was shady, I said it was wrong.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:28 PM
Apr 2019

And the bill is about a lot more than LGBTQ parenting. It affects all people, regardless of sexual orientation.

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ancianita

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17. Really?? Not cool to show biased concerns of Republican arguments toward a Democratic candidate.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:20 PM
Apr 2019

You really didn't do enough research about the Uniform Parentage Act to have the concerns you have.

This act is really about protecting the equal rights of LGBTQ families under Washington law.

It should alleviate your great worry about women's exploitation.




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StevieM

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20. I know what I read. And I know what has happened in other places in the past.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:32 PM
Apr 2019

Any arguments that Republicans might have are irrelevant to me. I didn't post links from right-wing websites. I posted a neutral article, along with one from a liberal group.

And anyone who doesn't think that women are not vulnerable to being exploited for their wombs is being unrealistic. There is a long history of that on this planet.

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