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Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:20 PM

 

Bernie needs to come out immediately and renounce these prior views

I won't post there here, but they were released this morning and are disgusting (see thread by HighPlainsDem).

Things happen in the past and are said or were misunderstood.

But this latest stuff is absolutely disgusting.

Bernie needs to come out and renounce it to avoid further damage.
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Reply Bernie needs to come out immediately and renounce these prior views (Original post)
cherryinpa Feb 2020 OP
Renew Deal Feb 2020 #1
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #2
IluvPitties Feb 2020 #16
Post removed Feb 2020 #3
WhereAmerica Feb 2020 #4
dalton99a Feb 2020 #5
Mike 03 Feb 2020 #6
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #7
IluvPitties Feb 2020 #17
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #18
highplainsdem Feb 2020 #20
NurseJackie Feb 2020 #21
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #24
NurseJackie Feb 2020 #26
Rorey Feb 2020 #31
NurseJackie Feb 2020 #32
LizBeth Feb 2020 #25
Hav Feb 2020 #8
frazzled Feb 2020 #9
David__77 Feb 2020 #10
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #11
David__77 Feb 2020 #12
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #13
David__77 Feb 2020 #14
LanternWaste Feb 2020 #19
Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #35
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #15
cherryinpa Feb 2020 #22
Mister Ed Feb 2020 #30
LizBeth Feb 2020 #23
deurbano Feb 2020 #27
LizBeth Feb 2020 #29
Name removed Feb 2020 #28
deurbano Feb 2020 #33
showblue22 Feb 2020 #34

Response to cherryinpa (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:24 PM

1. His reputation is that his views don't change. He is who he was 30 years ago

 

So why would he renounce his true beliefs?
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:25 PM

2. Well

 

If he still believes in that shit, then we got big fuckin' problems man.
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Response to cherryinpa (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:48 PM

16. LOL! Exactly!

 

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Response to cherryinpa (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:29 PM

4. Forget it...If he's the nominee, it's a disaster

 

Do you really think the Trumpsters will let him get by these -- and many, many other ridiculous and even horrible -- things he's said or done in the past, just by renouncing them?

Not to mention the fact that: a) polling showing the vast majority of voters DON'T WANT socialism and b) polling shows the vast major of voters DON'T WANT Medicare for All?

If Bernie is the nominee, it's all over. Democracy. Rule by law. And the Democratic Party will be branded socialist for years to come -- with good reason.
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Response to WhereAmerica (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:32 PM

5. A needless, self-inflicted disaster.

 

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory


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Response to cherryinpa (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:36 PM

6. That news conference would be perilous. Can you imagine?

 

Imagine you had heard about none of this until he held a press conference and then heard:

"I no longer believe children should run around naked touching each other's genitals."

"I no longer believe women get cancer from too many orgasms."

"That quote about women fantasizing about being raped by three men is taken out of context..."

"It was a weird time."

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:38 PM

7. And

 

He hasn't even covered what happened in the nude Russian vodka party yet.

Best thing might be to just have a single conference and put it all out on the table rather than let it dribble out. American public is very forgiving, and although it seems like its tough for Bernie maybe a little contrition for this dirty stuff might be in order.
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Response to cherryinpa (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:48 PM

17. Nude vodka party? WTF?

 

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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:09 PM

18. Not gonna link to it, probably NSFW

 

But google it.

Definately legal activitiy, but just weird.
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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:24 PM

20. Not quite nude:

 


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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:25 PM

21. That's messed up.

 


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:40 PM

24. Well

 

Can you imagine the shit that Trump will stir based on that one clip alone?

Lets not even get to the nude toddler stuff.
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Response to cherryinpa (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:51 PM

26. It's not a good look for him. It's pervy and creepy. This will haunt him forever.

 

Honestly, I'll never be able to even LOOK at him without the "nude toddler" stuff being the first thing that enters my mind... that's how I'll view him forever. It's just so inappropriate for a GROWN MAN... well... I'll say no more for obvious reasons and I'll just leave it at that before I vomit.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 03:06 PM

31. Creepy

 

I've never been able to shake that initial intuitive feeling about him.
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Response to Rorey (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 03:27 PM

32. I know what you mean. We share the same intuition.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:44 PM

25. A bunch of odd men doing their male strutting? That is something.

 

The more we see of the 30 yr old man, the clearer picture we get of who he is.
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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:43 PM

8. That would be a sure winner

 

for the Repubs. It's a goldmine of bizarre and embarrassing gems for them.
The voters in the swing states will love hearing their possible Pres explain why he's spending thoughts about kids touching each other.
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Response to cherryinpa (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:07 PM

9. He can renounce them, but ...

 

it won't erase them. You can renounce prior political stances, because circumstances (and, for that matter, a candidate's constituencies) change.

But these early, fully adult writings are about character (and to some extent, about intellect). That's way harder to get around. Misogyny and susceptibility to woo are character traits, not political decisions made in the exigencies of their times and places.

Besides, Sanders' claim to fame is his supposed "consistency" (although some see it as stuck in the past of old, rigid ideologies). You can't have it both ways: that you are the most consistent, but that you've changed your personality.
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Response to cherryinpa (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:11 PM

10. Oh because then you'll support him? Lol...

 

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Response to David__77 (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:13 PM

11. What?

 

The reason to renounce is because its the right thing to do man.

Its just not normal to talk about little kids and dirty stuff like that.

Its sick shit.
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Response to cherryinpa (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:17 PM

12. I have no idea if you believe that about his comments.

 

I guess itís a world of different viewpoints.
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Response to David__77 (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:20 PM

13. You are kidding right?

 

Don't get me wrong at all man, until now I've been far from pessimistic on Bernie. I've felt he would still destroy Trump although a bit of a wild card. I'm definitely NOT a bernie hater.

But now you're telling me that its normal to talk dirty like that?

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Response to cherryinpa (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:41 PM

14. No, not kidding.

 

And it has nothing to do with my candidate preferences. If it was another candidate that said the same thing, my perspective would be the same. I saw nothing exploitative, predatory or inappropriate about his comments.
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Response to David__77 (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:22 PM

19. Riiight. They're simply "gaffes."

 

Easily overlooked by his flock.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 03:40 PM

35. Maybe Sanders has a stutter he's dealing with.

 

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Response to cherryinpa (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:46 PM

15. No, he doesn't.

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:25 PM

22. No

 

Its not hate man.

I don't hate Bernie at all and he comes accross as the real deal.

But some of this stuff is sick shit man, surely you can't agree that the President should be writing about little kids this dirty stuff.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 03:01 PM

30. Nice work. Now I'll picture Bubbles on a pink pony...

 

... whenever I think of Bernie's supporters.

I respect Bernie's supporters, and I take them seriously. But now that silly image will be stuck in my mind.

That's the sort of branding you really don't want to do.
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Response to cherryinpa (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:38 PM

23. For old women, we lived in that time and we heard certain men have these conversations.

 

We pretty much had them pegged. It was not about a belief, it was about convincing a young woman to have sex with this diatribe. It was creepy.

I am referring to the girls get cancer if they do not have orgasms. The naked boy thing makes it all the more creepy.
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Response to LizBeth (Reply #23)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:52 PM

27. I didn't hear exactly that line, but in the late 60s/70s, the "revolution" was all about the guys.

 

Women were just support staff, and pretty much buzz kill unless they could play that role. Remember "Love the one you're with"? Seemed so free and loving... but to me, it became a justification for situations that in hindsight were date rape.
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Response to deurbano (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:55 PM

29. Yes. That is why I get the creepy vibe with the Russian video. Most of the men naked but underwear.

 

A feel of strutting their plumage. It was a real turn off then and more so today thinking back.
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Response to Name removed (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 03:32 PM

33. It's not just about people who "hate" him now, but who he can attract in the general.

 

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Response to Name removed (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 03:37 PM

34. That's not true.

 

That is what you think because in your eyes he can do no wrong.
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