Tim Ryan announces... Times says two winning strategies:

[Demsrule86]

one through the rustbelt and one through Texas/ South. Tim Ryan could win Ohio...if he wins Ohio Trump loses . No Republican has ever won the general without Ohio.

'Democratic strategists see two paths to victory in 2020: winning back Midwestern states like Wisconsin and Michigan that narrowly went for Trump in 2016 or southern states with changing demographics such as Georgia and Texas.

You can put Tim Ryan firmly in the former camp.

The eight-term Congressman, who launched his presidential campaign Thursday on social media and on the talk show “The View,” represents the former industrial hub of Youngstown, Ohio, and he made clear that will be his primary selling point.

In tone and in substance, Ryan laid down a marker that he is going to focus on the working class voters.'


http://time.com/5564473/tim-ryan-presidential-campaign/

[True Blue American]

1. Were you able to listen to

Tim yesterday? Get Sherrod on the campaign trail with him.

I notice DeWine has not created any waves. He hates Medicaid. I thought sure that would be first on his list. And Charter schools.

[Demsrule86]

6. I agree. Ryan gave a hell of a speech.Sherrod would help.

[Demsrule86]

7. Surprising about DeWine.

[dalton99a]

2. Same guy who called Democrats "toxic"

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/22/tim-ryan-criticize-nancy-pelosi-239845
Dem Rep. Tim Ryan: It'll be 'very hard' to win House control with Pelosi at the helm

President Donald Trump has opened the door for Democrats to win back the House of Representatives in 2018, Rep. Tim Ryan said Thursday morning, but “it’ll be very hard” to do with Nancy Pelosi in place as the party’s minority leader.

Ryan (D-Ohio), who mounted a failed challenge to unseat Pelosi as House minority leader last year, told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that his party has developed a “toxic” national brand that will increase the degree of difficulty for Democrats running to unseat incumbents in Republican districts. Already in the slate of special elections to replace Trump cabinet members, the GOP has worked to tie Democratic candidates to Pelosi, a maneuver Ryan said has been successful.

[Demsrule86]

4. He can win Ohio and he is a Democrat.

Tim Ryan is a good guy....yelled at him for Pelosi thing but... did you read how we win this year. I want to win.

[UniteFightBack]

12. Yes let's not forget we can disagree with folks on many issues/statements but in the end he is

still a good guy!!

[Demsrule86]

17. That is true. I will vote for the Democratic nominee. Period.

[Ohiogal]

14. He has abandoned that rhetoric.

[Demsrule86]

18. He got a great deal of pushback. He has been instrumental in seeing Lordstown workers are

treated fairly. He also did much for Delphi workers who still receive a pension thanks to his efforts.

[Ohiogal]

29. Oh yes

He has been fighting tirelessly for the GM workers. I met him before. He’s a good guy. The idiot Republicans around here really hate him.

[Demsrule86]

35. They are idiots for sure.

[dalton99a]

33. He is still blaming Obama:

https://timryanforamerica.com/

Why I’m running

As a congressman from Youngstown, Ohio for almost 20 years, I’ve watched the American Dream slip through the fingers of many Americans.

Like so many in America’s heartland, I come from a long line of factory workers who helped build our nation into a powerhouse of innovation. But over the last 20 years, failed leadership and broken promises have destroyed the middle-class, forcing our economy into crisis and pushing the American Dream out of reach.

Who was president from 2009 to 2017?

[Cha]

37. Thanks, dalton.. Anybody that

tries to ride on Blaming President Obama is out in my book.

[MrsCoffee]

3. Nope.

[Demsrule86]

5. Well when President Trump ( barf) is reelected in 20. I guess those who refuse to consider

candidates who can win the electoral college should consider this was a winnable race.We
May blow it by not formulating an election strategy based on reality...one that can succeed.

[elleng]

9. YES for reality.

[Demsrule86]

10. Ryan could win Ohio...do these folks get that? Biden can win PA.

Pick someone who can win a general...what are primaries for if not. For this?

[elleng]

15. Right.

I don't know what 'these folks' get.

[Demsrule86]

20. I hear the same stuff as in 16 ignoring the midterms where moderates gave us the

House. There is no countrywide turn to the left..wish there was.

[Demsrule86]

23. What do you think about the second way to win Times lays out...Texas and the

South? I lean towards the rustbelt as we had Democrats win governorships in WI,PA and MI.

[elleng]

24. Texas and South clearly important,

but rustbelt was within our reach, and still is imo; not a stretch, just GO THERE, as many will (like Biden, Ryan, etc. and many governors HAVE.) I'm an easterner, so more comfortable understanding such.

[Demsrule86]

36. Me too. We can stop Trump in the rustbeltbelt but the south maybe or maybe not.

[UniteFightBack]

16. People would rather have who they emotionally want rather than who's gonna win and make

the most sense. Folks are not pragmatic...I see lots of pie in the sky stuff.

[Demsrule86]

21. And if there are enough of them we reelect ( barf )Trump.

I wish we lived in a progressive country but we don't.. Center left at best. But healthcare is a winning issue for us and jobs too.

[elleng]

27. Right, 'not smart stuff,'

which we've got to eliminate.

[PeeJ52]

8. Tim Ryan also has a losing strategy. Look how well his district is doing with his representation...

for the last 8 terms. The Republicans can easily point out how poorly his district has done under his representation.

[Demsrule86]

11. That is a foolish statement. We had a GOP governor who did nothing economically,

Ryan can win Ohio and kick Trump out. That is all that matters...getting rid of Trump. We have few candidates that can win a general.

[Demsrule86]

13. Also Ryan is beloved because of how he helps his constituents.

[Ohiogal]

31. Kasich

cut state and local funding by HALF ....then crowed about he balanced Ohio’s budget.

Many local municipalities had to put up tax levies just to keep police on the job or keep the schools open.

Places that were already struggling got hit even harder. Unfortunately when you are a Dem state rep swimming upstream in a sea of Red legislators, it’s tough. Tim has always fought for Lordstown workers, our air base in Vienna, and to see that all working people get a fair shake. The Republicans in Columbus hate him, that should tell you something.

[peggysue2]

19. Ryan's push against Pelosi was a sour note but that's water under the bridge

Here's a question: what makes Ryan a more viable candidate than Sherrod Brown? Brown absolutely had/has the working class/union creds, is hugely popular in Ohio yet pulled back because he didn't see a path to the WH. At least that's what he said.

What makes Ryan a better candidate than Senator Brown and what path does Ryan see that Brown didn't?

[Demsrule86]

22. Sherrod would be great and better in some ways but he isn't running.

Also, the pukes gain a Senate seat. Ryan is popular too. Brown knows we need the senate.

[elleng]

25. Right, gotta RUN, and Brown doesn't want to.

[Demsrule86]

26. He doesn't have the hunger....great guy.

[peggysue2]

28. The Senate seat is certainly a big consideration

But in my mind Brown was a far stronger candidate than Ryan yet Brown said that after early explorations/inquiries he simply did not see a path to the WH. Sherrod Brown was on my list of candidates to seriously look at and then . . .he dropped out.

I just do not see Ryan as a strong/stronger contender for that working-class voter.

I could be wrong, of course. Time will tell.

[Demsrule86]

30. He was stronger in some ways. But maybe he was wrong.

[peggysue2]

32. Could be, Demsrule

Guess we'll never know at this point. But for myself I was disappointed. Would have liked to have seen Brown in the lineup.

That being said, we have a broad representation to consider.

[Demsrule86]

34. I was disappointed too. But I just want someone who can win...

Biden, Ryan and Maybe Beto.

[JI7]

38. he should run for Senate or Governor first