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Boston Globe: Grading the debate performance of the Democratic candidates (Original Post) TexasTowelie Feb 2020 OP
I am not sure how anyone thinks that Sanders... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #1
Boston Globe. That's why. George II Feb 2020 #3
Does that publication typically lean towards Sanders? ramen Feb 2020 #31
Because it's james pindell.. and every time has BS at the Cha Feb 2020 #4
Exactly right, Pindell is a biased idiot Green Line Feb 2020 #22
He's always anti-Warren BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #32
I don't know why the Boston Globe sullies Cha Feb 2020 #33
Mahalo, Cha! BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #34
You have to know the columnist that did the grading. Blue_true Feb 2020 #5
As a Sanders supporter Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #14
I admire this honesty, it is so rare atm Celerity Feb 2020 #19
That was possibly Bernie's worst PatSeg Feb 2020 #15
CBS real time poll 1000+ nationwide voted Bernie #1, Biden close 2nd, then Warren floppyboo Feb 2020 #27
I don't think Sanders did too well and I don't think Steyer did too badly. StevieM Feb 2020 #2
From what I saw, Buttigieg and Biden were close winners, Klobuchar did well and may have done.... George II Feb 2020 #6
I agree that Steyer may drop out on Saturday night. Gabbard too. StevieM Feb 2020 #8
Gosh, I completely forgot about Gabbard.... George II Feb 2020 #11
That's pretty much how I saw it PatSeg Feb 2020 #16
She really did go too far, and I was shocked. I thought she was out of line. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2020 #26
It was definitely overkill PatSeg Feb 2020 #29
True! It's also ugly. It's a bad look for her. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2020 #30
This will brighten your day: Sloumeau Feb 2020 #7
Thanks. That was a good read. (eom) StevieM Feb 2020 #12
Isn't he the same pro-Sanders guy who grades on the curve? He's the only one who says Sanders won. brush Feb 2020 #9
you can count on it.. every debate pindell has BS at Cha Feb 2020 #18
Not the only one who says he won, but aside from that, he's the guy who predicted Beto nt floppyboo Feb 2020 #28
Warren did far better than that, IMO. JudyM Feb 2020 #10
What debate did they watch? SunSeeker Feb 2020 #13
The same one everyone else did Moderateguy Feb 2020 #17
the same debate pindell watches every time.. BS Cha Feb 2020 #20
The Globe has become useless Green Line Feb 2020 #23
But no bias there relayerbob Feb 2020 #21
This Writer's Bias for Sanders Has Been Well Documented Indykatie Feb 2020 #24
Exactly.. might even get an A+ Cha Feb 2020 #35
Considering the amount of time he had.. mvd Feb 2020 #25
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
1. I am not sure how anyone thinks that Sanders...
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:52 AM
Feb 2020

did better than Buttigieg. Maybe he got extra points for waving his hands around in the air?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Boston Globe. That's why.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:54 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ramen

(787 posts)
31. Does that publication typically lean towards Sanders?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 03:00 AM
Feb 2020

There is no shortage of coverage of his shortcomings, in my experience, and I don't mean that the publication is unfair to him.

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Cha

(296,694 posts)
4. Because it's james pindell.. and every time has BS at the
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:56 AM
Feb 2020

top.. mostly with an "A".. so he's come down a notch in pindell's biased eye.

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Green Line

(1,123 posts)
22. Exactly right, Pindell is a biased idiot
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:40 AM
Feb 2020
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BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
32. He's always anti-Warren
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 05:11 AM
Feb 2020

and this time, he shows clearly shows his misogyny, giving Klobuchar a "participation badge."

Sheesh!

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Cha

(296,694 posts)
33. I don't know why the Boston Globe sullies
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 05:18 AM
Feb 2020

their Rep by letting pindell gaslight the debate winners.

Hey Aloha, Blue

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. You have to know the columnist that did the grading.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:56 AM
Feb 2020

Maybe the person is a total Bernie fanboy or fangirl and it would not matter if the others mopped the floor with Bernie.

The true answer comes on Saturday.

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Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
14. As a Sanders supporter
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:06 AM
Feb 2020

I think this Boston Globe grading seems to always inflate Bernie's grade, lol.

He shines at moments but debate is not his strongest skill. Especially when he's on the defensive like he was tonight.

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Celerity

(43,048 posts)
19. I admire this honesty, it is so rare atm
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:12 AM
Feb 2020

I can never bring myself to be rah-rah 24-7 for Pete either. I admit when he has issues, like his more than likely fatal weakness with my fellow people of colour. Most of my time is spent defending him from scurrilous little and large, dodgy as fuck attacks, but when it is a legit criticism I always try to be fair and accept it.

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PatSeg

(47,206 posts)
15. That was possibly Bernie's worst
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:07 AM
Feb 2020

debate performance so far.

The Boston Globe's ratings don't match what pretty much everyone else is saying.

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
27. CBS real time poll 1000+ nationwide voted Bernie #1, Biden close 2nd, then Warren
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:18 AM
Feb 2020

I agree it wasn't a good performance - by anyone - especially the moderators.
Bernie had a worse performance - the one when his voice was so hoarse he could barely speak. A bad look.
But, thank heavens, he is better than ever now. But those moderators, and the paid crowd - meh

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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
2. I don't think Sanders did too well and I don't think Steyer did too badly.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:53 AM
Feb 2020

I felt like Mayor Pete had a much better night than people are giving him credit for.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. From what I saw, Buttigieg and Biden were close winners, Klobuchar did well and may have done....
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:56 AM
Feb 2020

...better if given more time. Bloomberg improved over last week. Steyer and Sanders brought up the rear.

I wouldn't be surprised if Steyer drops out after Saturday's primary.

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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
8. I agree that Steyer may drop out on Saturday night. Gabbard too.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:00 AM
Feb 2020

But I thought he did pretty well tonight.

Klobuchar was OK, but nothing special.

I felt that Buttigieg won, followed by Biden.

I think Sanders did much worse than the media is saying.

It will be interesting to see what the ratings were for tonight's debate. It was on network television, so that may push up the ratings.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Gosh, I completely forgot about Gabbard....
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:01 AM
Feb 2020

How did I do that?

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PatSeg

(47,206 posts)
16. That's pretty much how I saw it
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:09 AM
Feb 2020

Buttigieg did very well tonight. I think Warren went a bit too far in her attacks on Bloomberg.

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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,501 posts)
26. She really did go too far, and I was shocked. I thought she was out of line. n/t
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:09 AM
Feb 2020
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PatSeg

(47,206 posts)
29. It was definitely overkill
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:21 AM
Feb 2020

and the initial punch loses its impact if you just keep punching.

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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,501 posts)
30. True! It's also ugly. It's a bad look for her. n/t
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:23 AM
Feb 2020
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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
7. This will brighten your day:
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:00 AM
Feb 2020

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/politics/who-won-south-carolina-debate/index.html|]

Chris Cillizza's winners and losers from the 10th presidential debate

WINNERS

* Pete Buttigieg: The former South Bend, Indiana, mayor was at his absolute best in this debate. He found several occasions to make direct contrasts with Bernie Sanders -- most notably on the dangers for Democrats of nominating a democratic socialist and the differences in their health care plans -- which is a win in and of itself. Buttigieg also flashed a sense of humor when plugging his website to encourage donations, which was a welcome moment of levity in a debate defined by people shouting at one another at very close range. If voters were looking for a Sanders alternative who looked like he could be commander in chief in this debate, Buttigieg made a very good case for himself.
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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
12. Thanks. That was a good read. (eom)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:03 AM
Feb 2020
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brush

(53,724 posts)
9. Isn't he the same pro-Sanders guy who grades on the curve? He's the only one who says Sanders won.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:00 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(296,694 posts)
18. you can count on it.. every debate pindell has BS at
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:11 AM
Feb 2020

the top.. I was expecting this.. but down to a B+.. trouble in paradise?!! lol

It's ridiculous.. why does the Boston Globe put up with this.. insulting our intelligence?

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floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
28. Not the only one who says he won, but aside from that, he's the guy who predicted Beto nt
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:20 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

JudyM

(29,176 posts)
10. Warren did far better than that, IMO.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:00 AM
Feb 2020

And Buttigieg kept interrupting other people’s time at length — loses points for poor sportsmanship/arrogance.

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SunSeeker

(51,499 posts)
13. What debate did they watch?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:04 AM
Feb 2020
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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
17. The same one everyone else did
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:10 AM
Feb 2020

You lens is distorted if you have a preferred candidate

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Cha

(296,694 posts)
20. the same debate pindell watches every time.. BS
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:14 AM
Feb 2020

is the "winner" always

I don't know how the Boston Globe puts up with this.

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Green Line

(1,123 posts)
23. The Globe has become useless
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:41 AM
Feb 2020
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relayerbob

(6,531 posts)
21. But no bias there
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:15 AM
Feb 2020

Not even close to how I'd score it

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Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
24. This Writer's Bias for Sanders Has Been Well Documented
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:57 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie could sh*t on the stage and he'd still get the best grade from Pindell.

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Cha

(296,694 posts)
35. Exactly.. might even get an A+
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 05:21 AM
Feb 2020

for distraction. lol

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mvd

(65,150 posts)
25. Considering the amount of time he had..
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:07 AM
Feb 2020

and the number of attacks, Bernie did well IMO. He did not wilt like Bloomberg did in the first debate. He did what he had to do, IMO.

The grades for the others don’t make sense, however. I would put them something like this:

Sanders A-
Warren A-
Biden B+
Klobuchar - B-
Buttigieg - B- (points off for the 60s comment which was really a compliment IMO, and overuse of putting himself in the middle)
Steyer - C (I like him but he was unfocused tonight)
Bloomberg - C-

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