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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

UncleNoel

(864 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:39 PM Feb 2020

POLITICO: "Joe Biden's campaign isn't dead yet"--in fact it is 'surging'

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/27/joe-biden-south-carolina-comeback-118006

Rare positive view from a Biden detractor:

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CHARLESTON, S.C. — Just as his White House bid appeared to be sputtering to an ugly end, there are signs of life for Joe Biden still.

And perhaps more than that.

A second-place finish in Nevada, a major endorsement in South Carolina, a strong debate Tuesday and a pair of polls showing him with a staggering lead here have given new hope to his campaign. Money is flowing anew into his war chest, as well as to a super PAC supporting him.

Armed with those data points, the campaign and super PAC are telling donors that Biden — given his strength among African-American voters and momentum kicking in at the right time — is quickly emerging as the alternative to frontrunner Bernie Sanders.

“The debate was really a huge turning point,” said Amanda Loveday, a senior adviser with the PAC and former director of the South Carolina Democratic Party. Donors who had pulled back from Biden, wondering whether Mike Bloomberg would claim the moderate mantle, have started digging into their pockets again, she said. “That got them off their hands.”

And it got rank-and-file voters on their feet. For a campaign that regularly struggles to attract big and energetic crowds, Biden drew something rarely seen at his rally at Coastal Carolina University in Conway on Thursday: a long line of enthusiastic supporters.

On Thursday, Biden announced on social media that his campaign raised $1.2 million from nearly 30,000 donors the day after the debate, in which Biden turned in his strongest performance of the 10 encounters with his rivals.
Why is Biden still polling so well?

Unite the Country, the super PAC backing Biden, would not yet reveal the level of donations coming in but it did purchase digital ads in the six figures.

While that's a meager amount compared to how much rival campaigns are spending, Biden's surrogates are confident that a commanding win on Saturday will yield momentum and money.

“I feel confident that Joe Biden will win here by double digits. And he’s going to do well on Super Tuesday,” said Dick Harpootlian, a key South Carolina organizer for Biden. Harpootlian took it a step further. “Without Bloomberg in this race, he would sweep Super Tuesday and Bernie would be a distant memory.”

Cash-strapped, and with the campaign set to shift to an array of far-flung states, Biden has been more aggressive seeking out earned media. He's made a series of appearances on local and national TV recently, a noticeable shift from when he was the frontrunner and sitting on a bigger war chest.

The newest data point boosting Biden is a Monmouth poll showing he has a 20-point lead over Bernie Sanders in South Carolina, 36 percent to 16 percent. The poll, and others like it in South Carolina, was welcome news for a campaign buffeted by three straight losses in a row in the other early states. Those losses had insiders writing his campaign off for dead and Biden and his surrogates repeatedly insisting that he was in the midst of a comeback after last week’s second-place finish in Nevada.

A national poll from Fox News, however, was almost the inverse in showing Sanders with 31 percent support to Biden’s 18 percent.

But Biden’s campaign said that a big win in South Carolina will change the national polls. His campaign had always planned to use South Carolina as a springboard into the run of Super Tuesday states and beyond to make the case that he does better than any other Democrat with voters of color. But Sanders’s win in Nevada, where he racked up big margins with Latinos, challenged that narrative.

The newest data point boosting Biden is a Monmouth poll showing he has a 20-point lead over Bernie Sanders in South Carolina, 36 percent to 16 percent.

The state polls like FL are ticking up and the national polls will soon begin reflecting Biden's strength.

MoJoe GO!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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POLITICO: "Joe Biden's campaign isn't dead yet"--in fact it is 'surging' (Original Post) UncleNoel Feb 2020 OP
Can't count joe out. too many southern states to go and super delegates in play Kurt V. Feb 2020 #1
BIden and sanders pamdb Feb 2020 #2
Great! Joe is MoJoe now! UncleNoel Feb 2020 #6
UncleNoel, thank you so much for posting this! :) Sloumeau Feb 2020 #3
Good news. Volatile polls empedocles Feb 2020 #4
The Polls are pretty steady for a big win is SC for Joe. UncleNoel Feb 2020 #9
Yes, Yes and Yes!! peggysue2 Feb 2020 #15
Hi Sloumeau, thanks! UncleNoel Feb 2020 #5
? Dem Femme Fatale Feb 2020 #7
Outstanding DarthDem Feb 2020 #8
Go Joe Progressive dog Feb 2020 #10
Wow! Laelth Feb 2020 #11
Proud to support Joe. Qualifications, experience, and job-specific knowledge plus big ❤️ emmaverybo Feb 2020 #12
FOX probably polled Operation chaos voters. blm Feb 2020 #13
The Comeback Kid.. what an Inspiring story! Cha Feb 2020 #14
Joe is back! honest.abe Feb 2020 #16
+1 ancianita Feb 2020 #17
+1 MustLoveBeagles Feb 2020 #18
This is good news but you might want to fix the thread title MustLoveBeagles Feb 2020 #19
Did that. Thanks. UncleNoel Feb 2020 #20
You're welcome UncleNoel MustLoveBeagles Feb 2020 #21
This is fantastic news for the Biden campaign and all of us who support him. Just gave trickyguy Feb 2020 #22
In the end any of them can win still but what I think is most important if we want to beat Trump is cstanleytech Feb 2020 #23
So you are Uncle Noel not UncleJoe!! Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #24
Not UncleJoe. Noel Schutz, retired professor living in the mountains of central Taiwan. UncleNoel Feb 2020 #27
Anyone almost could beat rump but Biden is not a strong candidate. MasonDreams Feb 2020 #25
Bloomberg's Error Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #26
You nailed it! UncleNoel Feb 2020 #28
The only bad thing is that many people have already voted. If they changed their mind about Sanders helpisontheway Feb 2020 #29
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
1. Can't count joe out. too many southern states to go and super delegates in play
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:47 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
2. BIden and sanders
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:51 PM
Feb 2020

I made my fist contribution to Biden. So far, my contributions have been only to Gary Peters (democratic senator from Michigan).

I have no problem with Bernie Sanders AS president, I just don't think he'll ever get it. I don't have a lot of faith in college students and "young people". Sorry. Been there , done that with McGovern. I'll vote for him, but I don't think he'll ever get it. I'm more m=worried
about the Bernie Bros who won't vote for anyone but Bernie. I don't trust them or him Thats how desperate I am to defeat the big orange pustule on the buttocks of humanity.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UncleNoel

(864 posts)
6. Great! Joe is MoJoe now!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
3. UncleNoel, thank you so much for posting this! :)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:51 PM
Feb 2020


This is great news for Joe Biden!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Good news. Volatile polls
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:53 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
15. Yes, Yes and Yes!!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:37 PM
Feb 2020

Talk about a turnaround coming at exactly the right time!

This is great news, UncleNoel.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UncleNoel

(864 posts)
5. Hi Sloumeau, thanks!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:54 PM
Feb 2020


MoJoe will beat Trump like a drum.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
8. Outstanding
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 08:59 PM
Feb 2020

When Politico, for crying out loud, says something pro-Biden, you know it's pretty much true.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. Wow!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:18 PM
Feb 2020

If that's a detractor, I can hardly imagine what his supporters are thinking.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
12. Proud to support Joe. Qualifications, experience, and job-specific knowledge plus big ❤️
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020

No other candidate connects heart to heart with Americans like Joe. It’s that which Trump fears.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,043 posts)
13. FOX probably polled Operation chaos voters.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:35 PM
Feb 2020

I do think Republicans deviously voting for Bernie will be a bigger factor than Dems and media want to admit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
14. The Comeback Kid.. what an Inspiring story!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
19. This is good news but you might want to fix the thread title
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:53 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
21. You're welcome UncleNoel
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:59 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks for the thread.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trickyguy

(769 posts)
22. This is fantastic news for the Biden campaign and all of us who support him. Just gave
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:32 PM
Feb 2020

Joe two donations last night because I was so excited that he's doing well.

Have supported him from the beginning and will until he is the next POTUS.

Go Joe. And Jill too.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
23. In the end any of them can win still but what I think is most important if we want to beat Trump is
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:48 PM
Feb 2020

that we all stick together and the best route to that I think is that whoever wins the nomination publicly offers the VP slot to the person that came in 2nd and if they decline then offer it to the next one from them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. So you are Uncle Noel not UncleJoe!!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UncleNoel

(864 posts)
27. Not UncleJoe. Noel Schutz, retired professor living in the mountains of central Taiwan.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 04:09 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
25. Anyone almost could beat rump but Biden is not a strong candidate.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:39 PM
Feb 2020

He first ran 30 yrs ago and has never won a primary or caucus. He struggles to make sentences and can't make three in a row.

He's against bussing and for parental education about record players? No more embarrassments, he told me to vote for someone else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
26. Bloomberg's Error
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:42 PM
Feb 2020

I think Bloomberg's strategy of skipping South Carolina and focusing on Super Tuesday will ultimately result in his failure. Bloomberg was positioning himself to be the moderate, anti-Bernie candidate. He would be fighting for this crown mainly with Joe Biden. Now, with some polls showing a Biden surge in South Carolina, and no Bloomberg in that contest, Biden has a real chance. If Biden takes the lion's share of the victory there and shows that he can beat Sanders, it will resurrect Biden's flagging campaign after losses in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada.

If this happens, if Biden wins South Carolina and holds Bernie down to low numbers there, Biden's campaign will be re-energized for Super Tuesday. Then it may well turn out to be a contest between Biden and Bernie. If Bloomberg had gotten on the ballot in South Carolina, he might have been able to stop Biden there. Now, with Biden unopposed by Bloomberg in South Carolina, Biden may be positioned for a significant win in that state. And that could propel Biden into the Super Tuesday contest as the Democratic alternative to Bernie. It might be too late at that point for Bloomberg, and the contest will essentially be between Biden and Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
29. The only bad thing is that many people have already voted. If they changed their mind about Sanders
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 06:12 AM
Feb 2020

it is too late.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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