The same people who told us Hillary had it in the bag are now telling us Bernie is doomed

[Sympthsical]

Consume their vast political wisdom accordingly.

[SunsetDreams2]

1. Who would that be? Nt

[Squinch]

2. Welcome to DU. This is very unifying.

[Sympthsical]

22. I'm not the one posting right-wing pundits approvingly.

I guess you figure that’s fine?

[Squinch]

27. Do show where I have ever done that. We'll wait.

[Sympthsical]

31. Have you ever spoken against it?

Brooks, Rubin. Hell, did Coulter ever say anything bad about Bernie? Let’s get here on in here. All the broken clocks are right if Sanders bashing is in the offing.

[Squinch]

35. Oh come on. Surely you can do better than that. Do link to

a post where one of those people was sourced where I participated and I HAVEN'T spoken against it.

Again, we'll wait.

[ehrnst]

63. Nice try at an evasion.

Care to back up those attacks?

[MrsCoffee]

3. She trounced Sanders and won the popular vote so what's your point?

It took treason to keep her out of office.

[Perseus]

40. And that is what continues to worry me, I don't see any actions to prevent the cheating

[MineralMan]

4. Really? Do tell.

Most of us were here in 2016. We remember all of that pretty well.

[Sympthsical]

23. And how'd that work out? n/t

[MineralMan]

25. Hillary Clinton Won the Popular Vote by 3 million.

She beat Bernie Sanders by 4 million votes.

The national election was interfered with and voters in three important states cast their votes to Jill Stein and Gary Johnson. More than enough voted for those two in those three states to flip the electoral college vote.

Had you been here, you would have learned that after the election.

[Sympthsical]

36. She lost

She’s not the president. Adorn as many asterisks as you like to the situation. Ornaments are soothing in a holiday sort of way.

She lost.

And here we are.

[MineralMan]

38. No, Really?

[musicblind]

59. Oh, so you only asked the question in hopes of hearing what you would prefer to hear

rather than hearing the unvarnished truth?

BTW, welcome to DU.

[ehrnst]

62. More votes than anyone not named Obama, despite misogyny on the right and left, and Russia

and the FBI,
and 25 years of false smears slurped up by the far left,
and the statistical probability of a party not holding the WH for more than two consecutive terms
and voter suppression of Democrats in 3 key swing states where she lost by a sliver of a percent...

[Sloumeau]

5. Oh are they? Prove it. nt

[Dem2]

6. Helpful

[mzmolly]

7. Comey announced an investigation into Hillary

just before the election - and, Russia interfered. Polls used to be reliable and while flawed it’s our best indicator of potential outcomes.

[Codeine]

8. What was your user name back then?

I’d be very interested to read what you were posting during the ‘16 campaign. . .

[Sloumeau]

9. I would not be surprised if the username was...

BerniesGonnaKickHillarysButt

[Sympthsical]

24. I know it's an unpleasant truth

Deflect as you must. I think I was just a redditor back then.

[redstateblues]

54. Says it all

[SidDithers]

45. Yup...nt

Sid

[grossproffit]

46. Yep.

[gredinger]

10. Heh.

It'll be fine. Bernie's gonna do really well in SC today. I just know it.

I'm expecting him to have at least 30% of the vote, if not more.

[rzemanfl]

14. I always read profiles. n/t

[Codeine]

16. With the Republicans rallying to his side

you may in fact be right. That should tell you a little something, however.

[Squinch]

32. And THAT's why I love superdelegates.

[handmade34]

52. "With the Republicans rallying to his side"

seems so

[Cha]

66. Oh really, gredinger.. That didn't work out,did it?

"more" you say?

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Exactly, so evident Newbies with

<500 posts sniping our elections

[Sympthsical]

26. Thanks, McCarthy

In the hunt of the squirrel, one hopes it’ll eventually find a nut.

Unfortunately I’m just a bored Californian who lurked a lot and got tired of the anti-Left hysteria. Just figured I’d balance the scales a bit.

[book_worm]

15. And how many Bernie Bros either voted third party or didn't vote at

all for HRC?

[emmaverybo]

17. She did have it. Russians supported Bernie and helped Trump. Once again, GOP and Russia

support Bernie. It isn’t his fault, but supporters need to stop blaming Hilary when it is clear a perfect storm, pre-planned, denied her the presidency.

[Sympthsical]

28. Remember when everyone laughed when Romney said Russia was our greatest enemy?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

And who trotted up with a photo op reset button?

Or did we get convenient amnesia there?

[emmaverybo]

56. I do. What little we understood then.

[Codeine]

18. 40% chance of snow and 27F with wind chill.

Bundle up.

[Sympthsical]

30. 70s and sunny here

Your forecast sounds Russian. Hrm.

[grossproffit]

48. Hinting that a long time poster is a Russian isn't a great way to start your tenure here on DU.

[Codeine]

50. He was just hoping he had found a kindred spirit.

A comrade, if you will.

[Sympthsical]

58. It isn't polite to call everyone you disagree with Russian

I do speak Spanish thou. But, California. Just professionally useful at this point. Russian seems like the problem I ran into when learning Mandarin - I can do a lot by sound and religion, but the alphabet escapes me.

Anyway. Should be more pleasant. Your guy could have a nice day.

[ehrnst]

64. O Rly?

[Cha]

65. lol Snap!

[Sympthsical]

57. Just pointing out the absurdity

I think I’m allowed to do that. This is a somewhat small site. I can’t imagine Russians would bother. It’s just folk talking around.

[Vivienne235729]

20. Interestingly, the same people who doomed Hillary are now helping Bernie

[McKim]

21. Time to Pull Together!

Let’s let the primaries play out. I support Warren and Sanders and send them money every month. Let’s not rely on conventional wisdom. We are living in interesting times which may require new solutions. Let’s focus on those solutions and stop fighting. I want the party to coalesce and tell the public how they will make a difference for your average American.

[KPN]

29. Bernie and Warren supporter here. How about we focus on the goal.

Like supporting our preferred candidates and getting out the vote. Vote Blue No Matter Who.

[still_one]

33. With the help of Comey, and those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary by

either voting third party or not voting made sure of that

and the ONE candidate running today who hired Jill Stein supporter Briahna Joy Gray, and Hillary hating David Sirota and Nina Turner, how convenient to gloss over the undercuting that occurred in the general election, by some of the very people who are now part of the Sanders campaign

[Hortensis]

34. Speaking of wisdom, voting to kick Putin and Trump/GOP in the teeth

is the only wise course. Voting for their choice, as you point out to repeat the giant tragedy of 2016, would be to help Russia destroy our nation and the Repubs to tighten their fascist stranglehold on government.

[H2O Man]

39. +1

[still_one]

37. Things slow over at JPR?

[Codeine]

43. Their long Russian winter of discontent is over. nt

[still_one]

47. Sure seems that way lately

[gulliver]

41. I can't wait for when we fine Putin his entire net worth and impose sanctions on him.

[wyldwolf]

42. These "Undecided" Bernie supporters always neglect to acknowledge...

1. The role of James Comey publicly re-opening the nothing burger case against Hillary.
2. The treasonous role of the GOP's alliance with Russia.
3. Hillary convincingly won both the primaries and the General Election popular vote.

I do love fresh meat. Bring it on. I just hope your replies are original.

[Cha]

68. Always!

[SidDithers]

44. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[William769]

49. Again. nt

[Codeine]

51. Ha!

[SidDithers]

55. No doubt...

Sid

[Fresh_Start]

53. you do know it is February right

what I do know is that Sanders loves socialists dictators that killed hundreds of thousands of people

Sanders says suppression of freedom of the press is fine when it is done by a socialist dictator.

Sanders says he doesn't need democratic establishment...which is only a true statement if he plans on being a dictator.

[Devil Child]

60. Welcome to DU Sympthsical!

[ehrnst]

61. Well she did get more votes than anyone not named Obama

And beat Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary by even more votes from a smaller population.

So there's that.

[Awsi Dooger]

67. I warned that Trump had a chance in 2016 and ever since regarding 2020

He was never going to resign or be thrown out. I realized I wasn't making friends around here by consistently pointing out the immense powers of a president whose party had been in power only one term, but it needed to be said. I always insisted his approval rating would rise steadily and not be stuck in 37% level like so many believed from late 2017.

A socialist is not going to win a national election in this country. That is very easy to understand if you experienced Florida 2018 with Andrew Gillum rejected by 46% of the electorate as too liberal for the state, during an incredibly pro-blue cycle.

Translate that to the key midwestern states and their ideological split that basically mirrors the nation itself.

It is not a winning formula. Bernie could only win if Trump's approval dropped a few points from where it is now. Not impossible given the virus but unwise to bank on that type of thing or handicap the race under the assumption.

Bernie is still the favorite for the Democratic nomination. I always keep the big picture in mind instead of overreacting to today. I've never understood the notion of heavily weighing today. When I lived in Las Vegas as a sports bettor for 24 years the only guys who allowed today to shape opinion were the ones leaving town broke on a bus.