
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:53 PM
Garrett78 (10,721 posts)
Once again, zero evidence of mischievous crossover voting having an impact
There's about as much evidence for substantial mischievous crossover voting in open primaries as there is for voter fraud in general elections.
Like voter fraud, mischievous crossover voting merely serves as a ready-made excuse for supporters of a particular candidate. Still, I'm sure we'll be hearing the same preemptive excuse-making in another 4 or 8 years, as we do every primary season. Que será, será.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
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Garrett78 | Feb 2020 | OP |
DonaldsRump | Feb 2020 | #1 | |
padah513 | Feb 2020 | #2 | |
TwilightZone | Feb 2020 | #3 | |
4139 | Feb 2020 | #13 | |
IronLionZion | Feb 2020 | #4 | |
Garrett78 | Feb 2020 | #8 | |
beastie boy | Feb 2020 | #5 | |
AGeddy | Feb 2020 | #6 | |
Gothmog | Feb 2020 | #7 | |
Garrett78 | Feb 2020 | #9 | |
lapucelle | Feb 2020 | #10 | |
SharonClark | Feb 2020 | #11 | |
MFGsunny | Feb 2020 | #14 | |
4139 | Feb 2020 | #12 |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:53 PM
DonaldsRump (7,715 posts)
1. Am feeling the Burn....the Biden Burn! n/t
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to DonaldsRump (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:55 PM
padah513 (2,366 posts)
2. Lol Big Time!!!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:56 PM
TwilightZone (22,211 posts)
3. Actually, we don't know that and neither do you.
South Carolina doesn't have party registration. What proof do you have that Republicans didn't vote in the primary? I'll answer that - none.
The exit polls should provide some info if they ask about party affiliation, but at the moment, unless you know something the rest of us don't, your assertion has no basis. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #3)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:35 PM
4139 (1,888 posts)
13. Do you think a crossover voter would talk with an exit pollster? No, not a chance!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:56 PM
IronLionZion (43,691 posts)
4. Trump openly calls for it from his supporters
but they're probably too dumb to figure out how to do it in significant enough numbers to make a difference
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #4)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:10 PM
Garrett78 (10,721 posts)
8. Historically, there's no evidence of mischievous crossover voting having an impact.
This year wasn't going to be any different no matter what Trump called for.
There are always some people who vote in the primary for the party to which they are not affiliated, but 1) the number who do so is small and 2) their votes tend to be distributed (they aren't mischievously coalescing around a certain candidate). Every 4 years, regardless of which party is having a primary, this discussion gets reenacted. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:00 PM
beastie boy (6,842 posts)
5. As long as Trump thinks it does, I say let him make an idiot of himself and his groupies!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:01 PM
AGeddy (509 posts)
6. You have no idea what impact it had.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:07 PM
Gothmog (136,542 posts)
7. Not according to James Carville
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Gothmog (Reply #7)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:11 PM
Garrett78 (10,721 posts)
9. Every 4 years, people in both parties call for mischievous crossover voting.
Calling for something and it actually having a noticeable impact are 2 completely different things.
Historically, there is zero evidence for it having a substantial impact. But, as with voter fraud, peeps gonna believe what peeps gonna believe. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:15 PM
lapucelle (16,258 posts)
10. Argumentum ad ignorantiam. N/T
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:17 PM
SharonClark (9,880 posts)
11. CNN has reported exit poll results
that include party registration, liberal to conservative self identification, liberal to conservative direction preferred, and whether they’ll vote for the Dem in November.
The numbers may have changed from when I heard the results but at that time there were obvious repugs or repug leaning “no party”s who voted in the Dem primary. Unless there is another way to explain the number who said they wouldn’t vote for the Dem in November. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SharonClark (Reply #11)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:42 PM
MFGsunny (2,356 posts)
14. Thanks for heads-up. Very interesting read @ link below.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Garrett78 (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:31 PM
4139 (1,888 posts)
12. If Bernie just squeaks over the 15% threshold then even small crossover may have had a huge impact
Right at this time Bernie at 17.9% that’s likely too large....
But if the final is 15.5%, crossover may have pulled Bernie over the threshold ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |