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Lexblues

(180 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:07 PM Mar 2020

There was a lot of garbage polls in South Carolina

NBC Marist and YouGov comes to mind. It makes me wonder what other polls are trash. It seems like nearly all the polls overstate Bernie's performance no matter the state. I'm really losing any faith in the polling these days. One pollster once said that Bernie is doing better in polls than in reality cause his supporters are fervent and they go out of their way to answer pollsters. I guess we'll see come Super Tuesday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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still_one

(92,136 posts)
1. I really think that polls that have low ratings, and sponsered by those with a political
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:11 PM
Mar 2020

agenda need to be eliminated in the Calculus



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jmg257

(11,996 posts)
2. Could be - for all the "huge turnout" sanders infers,
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

It doesn’t seem to materialize.

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ZZenith

(4,121 posts)
3. But you have unshakeable faith in electronic voting machines?
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:28 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
4. Most of the polls were within moe for Sanders final numbers
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:33 PM
Mar 2020

But they did not account for the Clyburn endorsement which is huge and good for 10 pts at least and they also did not account for Styer deopping 10 pts that obviously went to Biden.

So South Carolina has quite a bit of intangibles to deal with unlike other states.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
5. All Steyer voters went to Biden?
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:35 PM
Mar 2020

You would expect then, as Bloomberg drops, for the same?

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. My guess is the Biden/Bloomberg dynamic has shifted.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:32 PM
Mar 2020

I expect Biden to take a lot of Bloomberg votes in California. Voters not sending in their ballots yet implies that they were waiting for a clear signal on Biden, South Carolina gave that, IMO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. In 2016, polls overstated Bernie's appeal in California by around 14%.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:28 PM
Mar 2020

It would not surprise me at all to see Biden win California and Texas, if Biden wins both or is close to Bernie in California, Bernie is done, the road forward gets brutal for Bernie in that he has only Wahington State, Oregon, maybe Michigan, maybe Indiana, maybe Rhode Island where he can gap Biden, all the other states except small population plains states, Biden most likely win by a good margin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Happy Hoosier

(7,285 posts)
8. So much of a poll is the population model.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

And for a primary, the population model means the turn-out model, which can be notoriously hard to predict. And sample sizes are often small, so a bad sample can really fuck the results.

That's one reason why poll aggregation is better than individual polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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