Bernie fishing for Pete voters, blaaaaaaa

[Celerity]

Link to tweet

[SidDithers]

1. If Bernie had been in Selma today, he could have discussed it with Pete in person...nt

Sid

[OhZone]

14. Touche!

[mcar]

38. Boom!

[sheshe2]

69. He was a little busy. nt

[Cha]

81. I see what

you did there.

[sheshe2]

84. Hmmmmm.

[Cha]

80. Exactly!

[ehrnst]

89. +1000.

[msongs]

2. join the movement and you too can own 3 houses and be a multi millionaire nt

[dansolo]

3. Ummm... no.

I've switched over to Joe.

[Gravitycollapse]

4. 21% of Buttigieg supporters rank Sanders as their second choice. Higher than any other candidate.

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

[rzemanfl]

6. That will change when he endorses Biden. n/t

[Gravitycollapse]

11. Probably. But by how much?

[NCProgressive]

16. His supporters were center-left Democrats

They won't be going for Bernie.

[Gravitycollapse]

17. The polling data says otherwise.

[NCProgressive]

21. polling schmolling

[SCantiGOP]

79. My, you certainly make a compelling argument

Of course, the OP started off with blaaaaa
so what did I expect?

[mikelgb]

91. this get's the obligatory "Welcome to DU!"

[sheshe2]

70. Polling data had BS win/tie/dead heat in SC. nt

[tarheelsunc]

7. LOL.

Prior to SC when the media was telling everyone Bernie was inevitable, only 21% of Pete's supporters agreed to throw their support to the inevitable candidate. That is a pretty embarrassing number.

[Gravitycollapse]

12. It's higher than any other candidate. So should everyone else be embarrassed too?

[tarheelsunc]

15. Higher within the margin of error...

and only Bernie was being touted as inevitable by the media at the time. You would expect a large portion of his supporters to throw their weight behind the inevitable candidate in the event that theirs dropped out, yet this poll indicates nearly 80% of Pete's supporters weren't prepared to do so.

[quakerboy]

27. Inevitable?

When has anyone ever said that?

[Celerity]

8. I doubt it is that high, and even it it is, up to 79% will go elsewhere.

[squirecam]

9. That's one poll. There are others.

Political Polls
@PpollingNumbers
·
1h
Buttigieg's supporters second choice:

Biden 26%
Sanders 26%
Warren 18%
Bloomberg 15%
Klobuchar 8%
Gabbard 3%

@SurveyUSA
(2/25-26


Political Polls
@PpollingNumbers
·
1h
Buttigieg's Supporters Second Choice:

Klobuchar 26%
Warren 26%
Biden 19%
Sanders 11%
Bloomberg 9%

According to leatest
@QuinnipiacPoll

[Gravitycollapse]

10. Still tied with Biden. Which is significant. It might not impact the race as much as thought.

[squirecam]

18. And Sanders is far down in the third poll.

Nt

[NCProgressive]

19. It's over for Bernie

He should be writing his concession speech by now.

[Gravitycollapse]

23. Ha. Thanks for the hearty laugh.

[NCProgressive]

31. I'll laugh louder and last.

[Gravitycollapse]

33. The only way to answer this question is with a laugh-off.

[NCProgressive]

34. Go look on twitter and see the homophobic and insulting tweets about Mayor Pete

from Bernie supporters.

[William769]

71. Biden supporters Bernie is their 2nd choice.

ROFLMGAO!

Keep trying.

[Cha]

82. Yeah.. that makes

No sense.

smh

[rzemanfl]

5. Opportunist. Meh. n/t

[NCProgressive]

24. Pandering is the other adverb.

[rzemanfl]

39. I think it's a gerund. I always read profiles. n/t

[NCProgressive]

43. I won't argue grammar here!

[rzemanfl]

46. K. n/t

[W_HAMILTON]

13. No shame whatsoever.

Maybe if he had asked his disciples to stop attacking Buttigieg with homophobic slurs and other bullshit insults even *once* during this course of this campaign, they might be more inclined to give him a look. Oh, and I'm sure Buttigieg's supporters are thrilled that you stole his thunder from his historic Iowa win by demanding additional unnecessary reporting that muddled up the results, your refusal to concede to him there even weeks after the caucuses took place, and your lies on social media about being the first candidate ever to win the first three states (spoiler alert: there have been other candidates that have done that and you didn't win Iowa).

What goes around, comes around -- and now you get to reap all that your supporters have sowed in your name.

[Cha]

83. Well Said.. Thank You!

Nice wrap up!

[DanTex]

20. LOL. Bernie puts out a kind and complimentary statement, and people are outraged!

[George II]

26. "Kind and complimentary"? Of all the best wishes from other candidates, his was the ONLY one....

....that asked for Buttigieg's supporters and contributions.

[Gravitycollapse]

28. I agree. This is a total non-issue.

[TexasTowelie]

47. Each additional candidate that becomes viable in California

costs the most delegates to Bernie since he is the frontrunner in that state. Buttigieg withdrawing from the race makes Biden, Bloomberg, and Warren more likely to be viable. That isn't good news for Bernie's campaign since that could amount to a 150 -200 delegate loss. The key to Bernie winning the nomination on the first ballot is to sweep the largest, most liberal states which just became a bit more difficult.

[NCProgressive]

30. Bernie supporters had a gazillion tweets

which were homophobic and calling Mayor Pete's a wall street Democrat for his fundraiser in a wine cave. Bernie did nothing to stop the devotees. He seemed to rejoice the attacks on Mayor Pete.

Chickens have a tendency to come home to roost.

[DanTex]

35. Random people who had nothing to do with Bernie or his campaign?

Yeah, that can happen on twitter. People saying mean stuff.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287607895

[dware]

40. Right on cue.

Attempting to shift, distract or otherwise, excuse the bros attitudes.

[DanTex]

44. What "Bros"? You mean the term the media fabricated to pretend that Bernie's supporters

are somehow uniquely abusive online?

[Vivienne235729]

76. +1000 yep. Every. Time.

[dware]

37. No, people are outraged at his hypocrisy.

He hasn't attempted to rein in his supporters nastiness when he's had numerous chances.

But I guess you'll dismiss that also, or attempt to justify or distract.

[DanTex]

41. Actually, Bernie is the only candidate who has addressed online harassment.

Speaking of which...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287607895

[dware]

45. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!

All I can do is shake my head in wonder at the naiveness of your post.

[DanTex]

48. It's true. Exclamation points don't change facts.

[dware]

49. LOLOL.

Is this an act from Comedy Central?

Because it sure reads like one.

[TexasTowelie]

51. Yes, Bernie is the only candidate who has addressed online harassment

because none of the other candidates had to remind their supporters to behave.

[DanTex]

52. All candidates have rude supporters on twitter. Obviously.

There are numerous examples, but this particular example I thought was very courageous in how to deal with online attacks.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287607895

[TexasTowelie]

57. I vaguely recalled his name from a tweet that I saw several months ago.

I don't recall what the tweet was about, but when I saw his profile which stated he was a (dis)content creator I immediately blew him off as another reactionary hothead.

One of the reasons that I never participated on Twitter is because I didn't want to put myself into a position where people are digging up dirt about me and posting about me online. Mr. Finkelstein decided to make himself a public figure so he is reaping both the rewards and the misery that goes with it.

I've made my share of mistakes in my past, but I'm hopeful that I will never need the services of an attorney again in my lifetime. However, if I did and knowing this person's background I would be reluctant to hire him as my attorney.

[DanTex]

61. Interesting take. I disagree. I don't think recovering addicts should be shamed about their past.

Perhaps it's because I know some personally. A friend of mine had from a successful business career when he was prescribed an opioid for an injury, and ended up addicted, and then on heroin. Like the man in that tweet, he did turn his life around, but not before losing his job and going through a rough detox.

[TexasTowelie]

68. I don't think that recovering addicts should be shamed about their past either,

but for all practical purposes careers are ruined when they are caught committing felonies (whether or not they are convicted). They lose the opportunity to hold any jobs with fiduciary responsibilities, they lose security clearances, and their lives are generally in so much financial turmoil that employers are going to be reluctant to hire them. The fact that they are "recovering" addicts means that they will always be susceptible to relapse and may even resort to other crimes to finance their addiction.

I've been around addicts and I was forced into rehab myself because I'm considered to be a marijuana addict. It isn't fair that people are shamed for their past actions, but in Mr. Finkelstein's case there not only are the public records of his legal issues but newspaper articles about it too. He decided to advertise his political views on Twitter so he has chosen to also be a target of whatever backlash may develop. I don't have a lot of sympathy for him. If he didn't want his name smeared, then he should have kept his opinions to himself or at least not broadcast them on social media.

[ehrnst]

87. +10000.

He decided to advertise his political views on Twitter so he has chosen to also be a target of whatever backlash may develop. I don't have a lot of sympathy for him. If he didn't want his name smeared, then he should have kept his opinions to himself or at least not broadcast them on social media.

[ehrnst]

86. What about people being shamed with racist and misogynistic names for supporting Warren?

[Celerity]

74. that twitter troll in your link's a perfect example of the Sanderite social hit job patrol on parade

actually not a perfect example as many are worse

like the Sanders supporting gay-bashers of Pete


but your example of some good person is a real piece of shit as well, m8

why do you try and glorify that fuckstick???

seriously


from that thread of yours:

Samuel D. Finkelstein II
@CANCEL_SAM
·
5h
August 13, 2010

“Sen. Bernie Sanders today pressed President Obama to name consumer advocate and Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren to head the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.”

Ten years later, Warren is selling her soul to sabotage Bernie. Sad.

Link to tweet

that bloke is scum

here is a racist attack on Warren

Link to tweet

here he is calling Pete a rat

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

retweeting more Pete as a rat

Link to tweet

and again

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

accusing Pete of being a CIA leaker

Link to tweet

accusing Bloomberg of being a Putin puppet

Link to tweet

[Celerity]

42. elements with his core supporters and his campaign have been viciously attacking, lying, smearing

Buttigieg for damn near a year straight, homophobia included.


Sanders Supporter: Former Mayor Pete Buttigieg is "a bloodless asexual."

https://www.democraticunderground.org/1287608116

The people in the crowd were angry, and “Chapo Trap House” wanted them to stay that way. The five hosts of the popular socialist podcast wanted everyone to know they had all been lied to. About everything.

The media they consumed was fake news aimed to distract them from the only war worth fighting: the class war. Politesse, civility, even pleasure — those were tools of the neoliberal oppressor. The right answer is rage.

“That joy,” the Chapo co-host Will Menaker said to the crowd gathered in Iowa City on the eve of the Iowa caucus. “That’s good but it’s not as good a motivator when you’re really going to war as spite.”

“Let the hate feed you,” the co-host Amber A’Lee Frost added as the audience roared.

And it does. Especially toward other Democrats.

Supporters of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. are “gelatinous 100-year-olds.”

Former Mayor Pete Buttigieg is “a bloodless asexual.”

“The gayest thing about him is he descends from an ethnic group that’s like a little toy dog,” Ms. A’Lee Frost said.

'Racist' TYT reporter continues smear campaign against Buttigieg

(A must read, this backs up what I have been saying since spring 2019. The whole Sirota/JD/TYT/DSA/BoBer crowd has been camping down in South Bend for 8 months or so, trying to dig up dirt and smear Pete.)

October 25, 2019

https://orderofthecoif.wordpress.com/2019/10/25/racist-tyt-reporter-continues-smear-campaign-against-buttigieg/

The Young Turks today published the latest in a series of articles about Pete Buttigieg that they’ve characterised as “investigative reporting”. As will be shown in this article, these articles by Jonathan Larsen constitute nothing less than a sustained smear campaign that breaks all the basic rules of good, objective journalism. Mr Larsen consistently relies upon anonymous sources with suspect motivations, and often misleads his readers about the nature of documents on which he purports to rely.

The articles have also consistently pressed the most slanted and unfavourable interpretation against Mr Buttigieg, and relied substantially on innuendo and conspiracy theory dressed up as searching questions. The articles have sought to create an impression that Mr Buttigieg is engaging in racist policies or corrupt conduct, while failing to establish corroborated facts that actually support such an interpretation. This article will also set out Mr Larsen has questions to answer about his own conduct, which has been alleged in open court to include racist bullying, harassment and racial discrimination. Cenk Uygur should explain why a reporter credibly accused of racist conduct is allowed to continue on his staff while the issue remains unresolved.

Secret Tapes

The matter begins in January 2012 when Mr Buttigieg commenced his first term as Mayor of South Bend. Upon taking up a mayoralty, an Indiana mayor will determine who their chief of police shall be. The incumbent is not guaranteed to be appointed to continue under the new mayor. The incumbent chief in South Bend was Chief Darryl Boykins, an African-American police officer who enjoyed the confidence and respect of the community. Mr Buttigieg interviewed three candidates from the South Bend Police Department; Chief Boykins and division chiefs Steve Richmond and Tim Corbett. Mayor Buttigieg decided, based on his performance as chief and his good relations with the community, to reappoint Chief Boykins.

It has been alleged that six days after Mayor Buttigieg took office, on 6th January, 2012, Chief Boykins called division chief Richmond into his office and, “berated him for having been disloyal to him by seeking his job and for being a ‘backstabber'”. Chief Boykins also told Richmond that he had been wiretapping his and other senior officers phone lines, and that “he would fire anyone he determined to be disloyal”. It is also said that on 17th January, Richmond spoke to Karen DePaepe, SBPD Director of Communications, and asked her whether it was true that his line had been tapped. DePaepe responded that the chief requested a line tap “the day he promoted you to division chief”.

Richmond and other officers whose phone lines it transpired had been tapped by DePaepe at the request of the chief since 2010, went to the US Attorney for the Northern District of Indiana, a Democrat Mr David Capp (who was incidentally later fired by Donald Trump), to complain about the taps which they interpreted to be illegal breaches of their constitutional 4th amendment rights. The FBI commenced an investigation of Chief Boykins, and Mayor Buttigieg was informed. Prior to this the mayor was unaware of the existence of the tapes. The US Attorney informed the mayor that if Chief Boykins was quietly dispensed with as head of the SBPD, they would agree not to press charges.

snip

a lot more at the link, all documented



I can list a SHEDLOAD more of the bollocks and slander and hate from a myriad number of the Sanderite social media sphere, far left, radical sites (that rathole hate site JPR for a great example), blogs, mags, and shows like TYT, etc

[littlemissmartypants]

65. Well done, Celerity. Thank you for shutting that hogwash down. ❤ nt

[sheshe2]

72. All this.

JPR was founded by ex DUers. A hate site that hates Democrats.

Sorry, tired. Late and gotta go.

Thank you.

[sheshe2]

73. Oh please. nt

[George II]

22. Don't count on it, Bernie.

[AGeddy]

25. "Mayor Cheat", "Wall Street Pete", "Mayo Pete", rat emojis

Only *ONE* campaign's fans used these terms. Can you guess which one?

[George II]

29. I saw that, pretty disgusting.

[Capt. America]

75. No way, no how.

[still_one]

32. Lol

[quakerboy]

36. Any Candidate who isnt asking Petes supporters to join them

is a fool.

[Cha]

85. Pete's Peeps have Been talking to Biden's People..

Link to tweet

[quakerboy]

90. Voters get to make up their own minds.

Its interesting, My impression is the Biden camp thinks they get the benefit of the dropouts. But the Sanders camp thinks they are the likely beneficiaries. Guess the actual vote tomorrow will tell who was right.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

50. I WILL NEVER SUPPORT BERNIE. PERIOD. n/t

[Celerity]

53. hej hej my dear Peggy! huge hugzzzz, and I so hear you

At least I got to vote for Pete already, but he did the right thing.

So proud of him, and I so want to thank you for your tireless work in the Buttigieg Group!!!!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

55. I got to vote for him too, my dear Celerity!

We had early voting in CA and we wanted to try out the new machines. There were no problems and we did vote on the very first day.

I am proud of him too.

And thank you for your sweet words! They heal my heart.

It was my privilege to be a Host.

[Celerity]

60. you were wonderful, and I adored the pics you took when you met him!!!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

62. It was a great night!

What a sweetheart you are.

too!

[Celerity]

63. I was so jelly when I saw those! ihihihihih

[CaliforniaPeggy]

64. I was REALLY LUCKY to be in the right place at the right time!

[TexasTowelie]

54. I've rarely seen you so emphatic.

While Pete wasn't my first choice, I do like him and respect him. I do see the possibility that in another election season he might be at the top of my list. Hopefully he can build up his political resume during the meantime so that the lack of experience argument will wane.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

56. Thank you, dear TT!

I do have a passionate side, but I rarely show it. Tonight I couldn't help myself.

I am sure that whatever Pete does now, he will continue to be political. He and Biden are talking and maybe Pete will land a job in Biden's administration.

That will certainly put an end to the talk of his "lack of experience."

[nolabear]

58. You're a wise woman, Peg.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

59. Thank you so much, my dear nolabear........

That was very kind of you.

[radical noodle]

66. Nope!

Remember "Mayor Cheat?" Not happening.

[SKKY]

67. A bit too hungry for my taste...

...sometimes, Bernie seems like a car salesman.

[Vivienne235729]

77. How shameless! Smdh.....

[democrattotheend]

78. I'm sure there's some overlap

I've seen more than one person say they were torn between Pete and Bernie. I even read about one person this morning who's torn between Bernie and Bloomberg, which seemed a little odd. Buttigieg was not that centrist, and he probably had support from some younger people who were excited about the prospect of a president who's from our generation, who may be open to supporting Bernie now.

[ehrnst]

88. LOL.