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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

ecdab

(930 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 04:49 AM Mar 2020

Gracious winners

Assuming that the polling is accurate, this should be a big night for Joe! That said, it will probably be a bitter pill for Bernie's supports, take no joy in that.

Grace and decency are fundamental to the Joe Biden campaign. It's time for folks to start coming together in order to break Trump and the GOP's hold on this Nation, and a welcoming and extended hand works much better than a castigating and pointing finger in achieving that goal.

Let's bring it on home tonight with grace and decency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Gracious winners (Original Post) ecdab Mar 2020 OP
Thank you. Grace and decency are fundamental to the Joe Biden campaign. Mister Ed Mar 2020 #1
Sadly, it's not over until the loser concedes. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #2
There is no "they" ecdab Mar 2020 #3
You know perfectly well that "their court" refers to Bernie's campaign. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #6
Yes, I agree. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #4
That all depends on Bernie's actions....nt SidDithers Mar 2020 #5
that would be nice, but there is little hope of that. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #7
There is little hope for uniformly applied grace ecdab Mar 2020 #8
It's up to Bernie to set the tone in his concession speech and his oasis Mar 2020 #9
How we behave Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #12
All emotion and energy needs to be turned to the defeat of Trump. I'm oasis Mar 2020 #21
One other thing to consider el_bryanto Mar 2020 #10
Sure. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #14
I agree OKNancy Mar 2020 #11
The ones on DU Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #13
It's difficult, though wyldwolf Mar 2020 #15
Wouldn't it be awesome theaocp Mar 2020 #16
It's possible. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #18
I'm sure Bernie will have representation... SidDithers Mar 2020 #19
West needs to keep his negative ass away from all DNC projects. Forever. oasis Mar 2020 #22
Not just Joe's grace and decency NCProgressive Mar 2020 #17
To the victor goes the spoils. nt William769 Mar 2020 #20
Thanks. TomSlick Mar 2020 #23
 

Mister Ed

(5,924 posts)
1. Thank you. Grace and decency are fundamental to the Joe Biden campaign.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 04:56 AM
Mar 2020

That's it in a nutshell. Let's all hold ourselves to that standard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. Sadly, it's not over until the loser concedes.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 06:33 AM
Mar 2020

If any candidate wants to "take it all the way to the convention" (in spite of the numbers and polls and predictions and actual remaining available delegates) ... well ... I think it's safe to conclude that they have zero interest in accepting any gestures of grace from the winners, and that the FIGHT is more important than UNITY.

The ball is in their court.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecdab

(930 posts)
3. There is no "they"
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 07:57 AM
Mar 2020

Bernie’s folks are not a monolithic block. I know many fine folks that are backing Bernie.

Joe will bring the Democratic nomination home. I’ll agree that the fight isn’t over. But the fight is for voters, it is to broaden the base of support for Joe. Having Bernie’s supports join us is meaningful. Having them resent us is not helpful.

Grace and decency can be a rare commodity online. We could use a lot more of it. Grace and decency is something I very much like about Joe. Not only can we win, we can win while being decent, that is an exceptional thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. You know perfectly well that "their court" refers to Bernie's campaign.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:09 AM
Mar 2020
There is no "they"
You know perfectly well that "their court" refers to Bernie's campaign. Why pretend otherwise? THEY are the ones who have engaged in an ugly-ugly negative campaign of lies and smears and insults and denigration and blatant attempts at kneecapping and scorched-earth.

Bernie’s folks are not a monolithic block.
Nobody said they were.

Not only can we win, we can win while being decent, that is an exceptional thing.
I agree. The moment Bernie Sanders concedes and withdraws, then we will have won. Until then... the battle continues. They are the ones who have turned our primary process into a blood sport.

(For clarity and anti-strawman purposes... please be aware that "they" in the previous sentence means the Sanders campaign... not some imaginary monolithic block that needs defending.)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,911 posts)
4. Yes, I agree.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 07:59 AM
Mar 2020

We’re going to need as many people as possible in our coalition and that includes Sanders voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
5. That all depends on Bernie's actions....nt
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:03 AM
Mar 2020

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
7. that would be nice, but there is little hope of that.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:12 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ecdab

(930 posts)
8. There is little hope for uniformly applied grace
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:22 AM
Mar 2020

across the board. But if enough folks want decency, at least in this little corner of the internet, we can have some. And some decency is a good start.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,334 posts)
9. It's up to Bernie to set the tone in his concession speech and his
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:23 AM
Mar 2020

actions in the weeks that follow.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,911 posts)
12. How we behave
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:33 AM
Mar 2020

as Biden supporters doesn’t depend on what Bernie does, though. We all can take the higher road with a welcoming tone to the many Bernie supporters who will vote Biden in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,334 posts)
21. All emotion and energy needs to be turned to the defeat of Trump. I'm
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:56 AM
Mar 2020

going to gear myself totally into that mode. If the soothing of hurt feelings needs to be addressed, I'll leave that for others to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
10. One other thing to consider
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:32 AM
Mar 2020

Lets assume that Sanders concedes and Biden wins the nomination. That doesn't change the fact that I support Sanders and Warren not because of any cult of personality - I support them because I believe their positions on the issue to be most correct. And it will be difficult to argue for, say, universal healthcare or fierce financial market regulation without also arguing with Biden. Before for the General Election one can set that aside, to a certain extent, but after the election there's no doubt that Sanders supporters will be very critical of President Biden, should he govern from slightly to the left of the middle.

Bryant

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,911 posts)
14. Sure.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:36 AM
Mar 2020

People are expected to be, in a way, in lockstep before the general election but are allowed to criticize once the race is over. Obama certainly didn’t get a free pass here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
11. I agree
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:33 AM
Mar 2020

I think we Biden supporters should not think of the Sanders supporters here at DU the same as those who are so awful on Twitter or Facebook. We will all come together eventually.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,911 posts)
13. The ones on DU
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:34 AM
Mar 2020

and the ones I know in real life, including my mom, are nothing like Bernie Bros. I do believe they’re a toxic, loud, minority.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
15. It's difficult, though
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:38 AM
Mar 2020

Before the dawn of the internet, I was aware of the left fringe of the party, and the left fringe outside of the party, but never encountered them.

Since the mid 90s, though, I've been called "corporate whore," "DINO," "Not a REAL Democrat" and worse by these types. I've seen them threaten to throw elections and actually do it. And when, after some time of experiencing this, I fight back and then THEY play the victim?

Yeah, I'll be a gracious winner, content in the knowledge that Bernie and his bros' will have set back this faux "progressive" movement for at least a generation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

theaocp

(4,233 posts)
16. Wouldn't it be awesome
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:39 AM
Mar 2020

For Biden to start espousing support for some of Bernie’s positions? It’d be a great way to reach out. I await some unreasonable chastising, though I hope otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,911 posts)
18. It's possible.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:49 AM
Mar 2020

He may allow Bernie or Warren to include a bit of their ideas into the platform. I wouldn’t be opposed to it. We’ll see soon enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
19. I'm sure Bernie will have representation...
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:53 AM
Mar 2020

on the platform committee.

Maybe he can appoint Cornel West again.

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,334 posts)
22. West needs to keep his negative ass away from all DNC projects. Forever.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:01 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
17. Not just Joe's grace and decency
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:47 AM
Mar 2020

Add to it all these people who also showed incredible grace and decency.

Pete Buttigieg
Amy Klobuchar
Beto O'Rourke
Mike Bloomberg
Kamala Harris
Cory Booker




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
20. To the victor goes the spoils. nt
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:56 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
23. Thanks.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:39 PM
Mar 2020

No one likes a sore winner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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