Howard Schultz is really pissing me off

[JonLP24]

CNN's Brooke Baldwin is hosting him as a guest and grilling him over the fact a clear majority of Americans support Medicare for All after calling Bernie Sanders plan "far left". He goes on saying he has provided employer based health insurance so he knows what to do the part that really bothers me is him saying he is not being honest saying "where's he been for 30 years?" "He hasn't once demonstrated how he would pay for it" when he has clearly laid out it many times. I hate that he said Bernie Sanders isn't being honest and what is it with him saying in general Democrats are not being honest with the American public.

He just said "God forbid we have a socialist in the White House". "God forbid Trump gets re-elected" you're doing your part asshole (schultz)

I would have posted this in the Bernie 2020 forum but feel this thread is probably too much drama for Donkees who runs a quiet forum.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. He doesn't seem to be getting much traction.

[qazplm135]

4. of course not

1. He has the charisma of a cold sore.
2. He paints all Dems as socialists, where there are several moderate options running right now. He has to do this to make his campaign even theoretically viable, but since it is clearly not reality, it makes his strategy nakedly in error.
3. We are a polarized country. There is not some vast middle just pining for someone also in the middle. That doesn't mean there aren't moderate voters out there, there are, but most of them fall pretty solidly R or D.

[doompatrol39]

2. Sadly a lot of folks agree with him...

....sounds like he'd be right at home here.

[SHRED]

3. Is he going to be another...

Nader, Perot, or Stein?

[mr_liberal]

5. People only support it until they find out how much it would cost,

that they'd lose their private insurance, etc...then they turn against it. And thats what would happen in a GE. I would be dissected and attacked and the poll numbers would drop and even reverse.

I think Schultz is doing a good thing. He's trying to keep Democrats from going far left and nominating someone thats unelectable, like Sanders. He's trying to help Democrats win. My guess is he'll end up endorsing Biden who'll be the nominee and that will be a boost since it'll seem like its coming from somebody moderate and independent, and that's opposed to socialism. Then everybody here will love Schultz.

[JonLP24]

6. I think that is a really twisted way to view Schultz

Take it from an economist, Medicare for All is the most sensible way to fix health care

I've spent decades studying US health care. Time to get real: Medicare for All is the only reasonable path to controlling costs and covering everyone.

There is an instinct among political pundits to confuse caution for practicality — an assumption that those who advocate for incremental change are being reasonable, while those pushing for bold reforms aren’t. This is seen most starkly in the debate around health care reform, despite the fact that the “practical” pushers of limited reform fail to address the real problems in our health care system.

We all recognize that the status quo isn’t working. We spend more per person than any other country on health care, but we aren’t getting any bang for our buck. We have lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality rates and more preventable deaths, and too many personal bankruptcies are due at least in part to medical bills.

Where we disagree is the solution. The favorite new “reasonable” plan is “Medicare for America,” a bill from Reps. Jan Schakowsky and Rosa DeLauro that has won the support of big names like Texas presidential hopeful Beto O’Rourke and the Center for American Progress, the left-of-center think tank where the plan originated as “Medicare Extra for All.” It has been extolled in opinion pieces for some of America’s largest newspapers as a “realistic” plan to fix what’s broken in our health care system.

On the other side, if punditry is to be believed, there are the Medicare for All “hard-liners” who believe in expanding a significantly improved Medicare system to every American, with coverage that includes dental, vision and long-term care. This is portrayed as radical or even unreasonable.

Time to get real. As an economist who has spent decades studying our health care system, I can tell you that Medicare for All advocates are the only ones who are being reasonable, because theirs is the only plan that will control health care costs while finally achieving universal coverage.

Insurance companies are middle men
The problem with incremental plans, whether they are public options, buy-ins to Medicare or Medicaid, or pumping more money into subsidies in the Affordable Care Act's individual marketplace, is that they preserve the private health insurance system weighing down our health care.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/08/medicare-for-all-reasonable-practical-health-care-reform-column/3393034002/

I don't know if you haven't noticed private insurance isn't all that great. Mine is free with the VA so medicare for all isn't for me but I care about others. My mom would have to pay a lot of money for really good insurance. She has the cheapest employer plan and it isn't great and she owes medical bills.

I don't see Schultz doing that at all but he is wrong about Bernie Sanders not being honest as he is one of the most honest politicians out there.

Al Gore in a 2000 debate acknowledged it wasn't the right time but he said that he would eventually like to see the US eventually enact universal health care.

[Honeycombe8]

7. He's running to help Trump. nt

[vsrazdem]

8. He's an irrelevant pompous ass.

[geretogo]

9. He is another Trojan Horse ; A right winger posing as a democrat so as to give the 2020 election to

Trump .

[UniteFightBack]

10. I'm sorry but who? Exactly. nt