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SunSeeker

(51,368 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:54 PM Mar 2020

Bernie Sanders is wrong on democratic socialism in Sweden, and everywhere else

By Daniel Schatz, visiting scholar at New York University’s Center for European and Mediterranean Studies

Bernie Sanders has placed ”democratic socialism” at the center of his presidential campaign and his vision for a better America. For proof, he points to Scandinavian countries like Sweden.

But as a Scandinavian political scientist who has studied Nordic politics, economy and history in depth, I do not feel the Bern. The Vermont senator has embraced an urban legend; his love affair with Scandinavian socialism gets it all wrong.

Contrary to the prevailing narrative, the success of Nordic countries like Sweden — as measured by relatively high living standards accompanied by low poverty, with government-funded education through university, universal health coverage, generous parental-leave policies and long life spans — precedes the contemporary welfare state.

The Nordic country needed healthy companies and skilled workers, so top tax rates were rolled backwhile government welfare programs were redesigned. These reforms laid the ground for today’s competitive market-oriented economy based on international openness and the promotion of global free trade.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/bernie-sanders-wrong-democratic-socialism-sweden-everywhere-else-ncna1158636

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Bernie Sanders is wrong on democratic socialism in Sweden, and everywhere else (Original Post) SunSeeker Mar 2020 OP
When the Prime Minister of Denmark was asked about madaboutharry Mar 2020 #1
KR! Cha Mar 2020 #2
I disagree jimlup Mar 2020 #3
We all agree we should have a much stronger safety net, like the Scandinavian countries have. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #4
keep hating Bernie but ... jimlup Mar 2020 #5
Bernie is not telling the truth about the Scandinavian countries. nt SunSeeker Mar 2020 #6
 

madaboutharry

(40,151 posts)
1. When the Prime Minister of Denmark was asked about
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:56 PM
Mar 2020

some of the comments on "Scandinavian socialism" made by Bernie Sanders, this was the response: "Denmark has a capitalist economy."

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jimlup

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3. I disagree
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:02 PM
Mar 2020

so enjoy your victory - time to make friends with Sanders supporters or are you not OK with uniting the party?

Time to come together. Yes Biden will be the nominee - so everything that Bernie said is irrelevant? Think that at your own peril.

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SunSeeker

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4. We all agree we should have a much stronger safety net, like the Scandinavian countries have.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:13 PM
Mar 2020

But what I and the author of this article disagree with is Bernie's characterization of that Scandinavian system as socialism. It is not.

I do indeed agree with you that it is time to come together. That is why I think Bernie should suspend his campaign.

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jimlup

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5. keep hating Bernie but ...
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:14 PM
Mar 2020

at least someone is speaking the truth

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SunSeeker

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6. Bernie is not telling the truth about the Scandinavian countries. nt
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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