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Uncle Joe

(58,352 posts)
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 05:54 PM Apr 2019

Bernie Sanders says he would bar GM from federal contracts for Lordstown actions if elected



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WARREN, Ohio – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders told an enthusiastic crowd of union members and workers from around Lordstown on Sunday that, if elected president, he would freeze government contracts to companies like General Motors who opt to shut down American factories like the Chevy Cruze facility to outsource jobs to lower-paying countries.

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But the positive reception by the crowd to Sanders’ constant flurry of attacks against GM show that the factory closures could be a serious liability for Republicans in 2020.

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It’s a bold claim against a company that currently has hundreds of millions of dollars in federal contracts, but a sign of the political potency the factory closings represent in Northeast Ohio, particularly the Mahoning Valley. But it also received arguably the most resounding response from the crowd.

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Coupled with the gain GM received from Trump and the GOP’s tax plan, his direct promise to bring jobs back to the area and his attack on local union members and leaders, it’s almost a gift-wrapped local issue with national implications for Democrats to use in 2020.

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https://www.cleveland.com/politics/2019/04/bernie-sanders-says-he-would-bar-gm-from-federal-contracts-for-lordstown-actions-if-elected-president.html



This is a good read and I believe the author's analysis is correct on this issue and the political implications.
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Bernie Sanders says he would bar GM from federal contracts for Lordstown actions if elected (Original Post) Uncle Joe Apr 2019 OP
That's no better than a Trump promise. Can the Pres even DO that? bitterross Apr 2019 #1
Oh boy, Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #2
Does every little thing Bernie says has to be an OP? BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #3
Looks like it. 👍🏻 LakeArenal Apr 2019 #5
Well, they didn't opine about his bowel movement today. CentralMass Apr 2019 #8
Knock on wood. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #12
So is Bernie just going to rule by decree regardless of what the law says? comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #4
Why not? murielm99 Apr 2019 #6
fuck trump , we are trying to get rid of him JI7 Apr 2019 #18
I didn't think I needed murielm99 Apr 2019 #19
you didn't JI7 Apr 2019 #20
okay. murielm99 Apr 2019 #21
That should help auto workers. Not LakeArenal Apr 2019 #7
No surprise. He also was for tariffs, and protectionist polices, not unlike what the current WH still_one Apr 2019 #9
Well that will help bring those jobs back. we can do it Apr 2019 #10
Wouldn't that hurt other U.S.-based GM plants? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #11
Of course. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #14
Closing more plants? M'kay. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #15
That would be the net effect of cutting off government contracts. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #22
. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #24
what's the goal of the strategy ? JI7 Apr 2019 #17
See post 22. (n/t) OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #23
Aren't presidents supposed to avoid punishing corporations for legal business decisions? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #13
If GMcloses a factory... WeekiWater Apr 2019 #16
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
1. That's no better than a Trump promise. Can the Pres even DO that?
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 05:58 PM
Apr 2019

First of all, does the President have the authority to block a company that way? I'm going to be surprised if that's possible.

I don't like pandering to the people just to get elected.

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Wellstone ruled

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2. Oh boy,
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 05:59 PM
Apr 2019

grasping much,interesting. Seems we hear something like this once years ago and GM got a multiyear Billions of Dollar Humvee Contract plus all the rebuild and Parts contracts.

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BlueFlorida

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3. Does every little thing Bernie says has to be an OP?
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:05 PM
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LakeArenal

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5. Looks like it. 👍🏻
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:06 PM
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CentralMass

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8. Well, they didn't opine about his bowel movement today.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:17 PM
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comradebillyboy

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4. So is Bernie just going to rule by decree regardless of what the law says?
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:05 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie going to personally intervene in putting contracts out to bid and determining who can and can't participate? Is Bernie personally going to pick winners and losers? Sounds very authoritarian to me.

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murielm99

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6. Why not?
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:08 PM
Apr 2019

Trump thinks it's okay.

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JI7

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18. fuck trump , we are trying to get rid of him
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:08 AM
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murielm99

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19. I didn't think I needed
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:43 AM
Apr 2019

the sarcasm thingy there. Oh, well.

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JI7

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20. you didn't
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:00 AM
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I just wanted to get in an f trump

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LakeArenal

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7. That should help auto workers. Not
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:09 PM
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still_one

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9. No surprise. He also was for tariffs, and protectionist polices, not unlike what the current WH
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:23 PM
Apr 2019

pushed in their campaign

We really don’t need 1932 redux in my view, and this threat against GM is not going to help GM workers

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we can do it

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10. Well that will help bring those jobs back.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:31 PM
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WhiskeyGrinder

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11. Wouldn't that hurt other U.S.-based GM plants?
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:34 PM
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OilemFirchen

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14. Of course.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:43 PM
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That's the strategy, isn't it?

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WhiskeyGrinder

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15. Closing more plants? M'kay.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:53 PM
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OilemFirchen

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22. That would be the net effect of cutting off government contracts.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:41 PM
Apr 2019

I believe that Sanders is more interested in punishing GM than supporting its workers. After all, he voted against the EESA, which saved GM from bankruptcy. He's in favor of tariffs which harm GM's ability to compete. Neither of those positions suggest that Sanders is concerned about the future of the industry - in fact, they suggest that he sees some benefit in its demise. Ditto this threat.

Sanders is first and foremost a reactionary. I don't believe that he cares about the consequences, nor that he's even contemplated the economic repercussions of U.S. without a GM.

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JI7

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17. what's the goal of the strategy ?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:07 AM
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OilemFirchen

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23. See post 22. (n/t)
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:41 PM
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The Velveteen Ocelot

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13. Aren't presidents supposed to avoid punishing corporations for legal business decisions?
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:39 PM
Apr 2019

We hate it when Trump does that.

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WeekiWater

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16. If GMcloses a factory...
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 07:34 PM
Apr 2019

I’ll force them to close five factories!

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