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Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:45 AM

 

Historian who correctly predicted last 9 presidential elections: Trump is more likely to lose

because of coronavirus

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/historian-who-correctly-predicted-last-9-presidential-elections-trump-is-more-likely-to-lose-because-of-coronavirus/
By Matthew Rozsa, Salon

Allan Lichtman, a political historian at American University whose book “The Keys to the White House” has helped him correctly predict the last nine presidential elections, told Salon last week the coronavirus pandemic may spell defeat for President Trump in the 2020 election.

Lichtman’s system is based on 13 “keys,” a series of true-or-false statements that anticipate whether the incumbent party’s presidential candidate will be elected in a given year. If six or more of the statements are false, the incumbent candidate will lose; if fewer than six are false, he or she will win. While Lichtman’s system is somewhat complicated by elections where there is a split between the popular vote and the Electoral College results, it has otherwise successfully anticipated every presidential election since 1984. (You can see the full list of keys here.)
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“There were four keys solidly locked in against the president” prior to the outbreak, Lichtman explained. “It takes six to predict defeat. But this was before [the pandemic]. Key 1: Party mandate. Key 9: Scandal. Key 11: Foreign/military success. Key 12: incumbent charisma. That’s four false keys locked in.”
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Lichtman’s analysis is based on the fact that Republicans lost control of the House of Representatives in the 2018 midterms; that Trump has faced a number of scandals during his presidency, including one that led to his impeachment; has had no major military or foreign policy successes; and is neither a military hero nor “charismatic,” a term Lichtman defines to mean a candidate who appeals to large groups of voters outside of his or her party’s usual coalition. Trump’s approval rating has been stuck in the 40s throughout his term and, according to Lichtman, “You can’t call a candidate stuck in that range, appealing only to a minority, a charismatic candidate.”

The coronavirus pandemic, however, may have significantly worsened Trump’s re-election chances, at least according to Lichtman’s analytics.

“The current crisis, which is biological, governmental and societal, puts into jeopardy two additional keys,” Lichtman explained. Those would be “Key 5, the short-term economy — many economists are predicting that we’re going to slide into a recession, or may already be in a recession — and Key 8, the social unrest key. And it makes Key 10, foreign policy or military failure, even more shaky than before.” Lichtman earlier suggested that relations with North Korea and the unstable situation in the Middle East could endanger Key 10 for Trump.

If any two of those three keys turn against Trump, he is a predicted failure,” Lichtman said. “If zero or one turn against him, he is a predicted winner. I obviously haven’t made a final call yet, since we don’t know how this crisis will ultimately be resolved or not resolved in the upcoming months.”

Polls released on Tuesday found that Trump’s approval rating has risen to 49 percent and he is statistically within the margin of error against his likely opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden. According to Lichtman, this does not mean much.

“Early polls have no predictive value for the November results,” Lichtman told Salon by email on Wednesday. “Every president has seen a rise in polling numbers in response to the rally-around-the-flag effect at the early stages of a national crisis. Trump’s small rise in the approval polls is low based on precedent. He also has had the enormous advantage of appearing constantly on television to give his self-serving spin on events. Biden has had minimal visibility.”

He added, “The polls have no influence on the Keys, which are based on big-picture events such as the long- and short-term economy, scandal, social unrest and foreign successes and failures. I still have no final call on the keys as I am waiting to see how events play out over the next few months.”

Kyle Kondik, managing editor of the nonpartisan political newsletter Sabato’s Crystal Ball, largely echoed Lichtman’s analysis.

“This is a story that is still being written. I do think the precarious state of the economy does pose a potential threat to the president, because his re-election pitch was so reliant on a good economy,” Kondik explained by email. “I’m sure this is part of the reason Trump and so many other Republicans are supporting such an expansive stimulus package: As the party with more power in Washington, they stand to take more of the blame if the response to the public health and economic crisis is seen by the public as lacking.”

Lichtman also told Salon last week that if Trump loses as a result of the coronavirus, his opponent is almost irrelevant; it simply won’t matter whether the Democrats have nominated Biden or Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

Trump’s potential defeat has “nothing to do with Joe Biden whatsoever,” Lichtman said, although in his formula Biden is not “charismatic,” meaning that Key 13 would turn in Trump’s favor. “Remember, the basic theory behind the keys is that elections are essentially votes up or down on whether or not the party holding the White House should get four more years.”


I hope he is right! Sounds plausible. He calls the unelectability (Sanders) and electibility (Biden_ arguments nonsense. I have a feeling this is downplaying a major factor. Appeal to major voting blocs, such as AA voters, is a major factor in my view.
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UncleNoel Mar 2020 OP
mitch96 Mar 2020 #1
Cha Mar 2020 #2
UncleNoel Mar 2020 #4
BidenBacker Mar 2020 #3
UncleNoel Mar 2020 #5
StevieM Mar 2020 #6
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Response to UncleNoel (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:02 AM

1. This is good!! Now does Joe have all the positive attributes? nt

 

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Response to UncleNoel (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:04 AM

2. Interesting.. but he doesn't get that the voters

 

overwhelmingly want Biden and have rejected BS.. so it does make a difference.

If the affects of the CV determine trumpVirus is the Loser.. that falls right on trump. just like the Impeachment If he had even 1/2 a brain it could have gone so much differently. But that's Not who he is.

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:03 AM

4. You are so welcome, Cha!

 

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Response to UncleNoel (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:15 AM

3. Interesting read

 

Lichtman had me right up until the end about it not mattering who the opponent is but we'll let that slide.

Not sure we can use history to predict what will happen in November. I've seen some folks here whip out some fancy analysis about how 2020 is just like this or that previous election and then use that to predict a Trump reelection. Joe himself called Trump an "aberration" (correctly, IMO)...and you can't use historical trends in those cases to predict future results because...well, "aberrations" don't fit into past patterns by definition.

Anyway, sure hope Trump doesn't see this article and figure out he's got 6 keys against him and this Lichtman guy therefore says he's gonna lose. The highly stable genius will probably figure "hey, I know...I'll flip Key 11 back in my favor and start a war with Mexico and kick their rapist butts. We got millions of Americans just sitting around doing nothing anyway...we can put them to work earning that 1200 bucks I'm giving them and invade Acapulco. Hey, if I send only the ones who have coronavirus the US case numbers will go down so it'll be a two-fer."
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Response to BidenBacker (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:05 AM

5. LOL!

 

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Response to UncleNoel (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:54 AM

6. He got at least one, and basically two, elections wrong.

 

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First, George W. Bush did not win the 2000 election. He just didn't. Al Gore won it.

Second, we were about to defeat Donald Trump by a very decisive margin when James Comey intervened on behalf of the Republicans. Had it not been for Comey's antics Trump would never have won. So I am not sure that he counts either.
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Response to StevieM (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:56 AM

7. IIRC at a certain number of keys, the election is a toss-up, and can go either way

 

2000 was a toss-up according to Lichtmann's model
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Response to StevieM (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:18 AM

8. I think Lichtman predicted Gore in 2000

 

If I recall correctly his model is designed to predict the popular vote only.
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