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Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:12 PM

 

Jonathan Chait: "Why Can't Bernie Accept That Democratic Voters Didn't Want Him?"

From the moment he announced his candidacy, Joe Biden led in polls of Democratic primary voters. His lead endured through months of bad press and worse debate performances. He lost his national lead very briefly, after crushing defeats in two overwhelmingly white states ó one of them a low-turnout caucus ó only to regain it after African-Americans voted for the first time in large numbers, at which point he has led by commanding margins.

The Bernie Sanders movement has mostly accepted the finality of Bidenís victory. What it hasnít come to terms with is its causes. The Sanders campaign and many of its enthusiasts continue to see Bidenís victory as either a fluke or a plot.

Sanders advisers told the New York Times they believed they had been on the precipice of sweeping to victory on Super Tuesday, until Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg dropped out and endorsed Biden. Ben Tulchin, a Sanders pollster, claimed the candidate was ďon the brink of winning until the most unprecedented event in the history of presidential primaries occurred.Ē

It is hardly unprecedented for the fifth- and sixth-place candidates to drop out of a race after four primaries. Yet Sanders himself has fixated on this decision as evidence of an Establishment conspiracy. Appearing on ABCís This Week several days later, he described it as ďthe power of the Establishment to force Amy Klobuchar, who had worked so hard, Pete Buttigieg, who had really worked extremely hard as well, out of the race.Ē

From Bernieís perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they donít want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway.

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Reply Jonathan Chait: "Why Can't Bernie Accept That Democratic Voters Didn't Want Him?" (Original post)
StarfishSaver Mar 27 OP
Harker Mar 27 #1
Zambero Mar 27 #2
RandySF Mar 27 #3
centrarchus Mar 27 #4
showblue22 Mar 27 #5
Cha Mar 27 #19
showblue22 Mar 27 #22
Cha Mar 27 #23
bucolic_frolic Mar 27 #6
world wide wally Mar 27 #7
LakeArenal Mar 27 #29
NurseJackie Mar 27 #8
Thekaspervote Mar 27 #10
TreasonousBastard Mar 27 #9
zackymilly Mar 27 #11
subana Mar 27 #12
mcar Mar 27 #13
William769 Mar 27 #14
Tarheel_Dem Mar 27 #15
The Magistrate Mar 27 #16
MrsCoffee Mar 27 #17
Cha Mar 27 #20
showblue22 Mar 27 #25
Cha Mar 27 #27
NCProgressive Mar 27 #18
Blue_true Mar 27 #24
Cha Mar 27 #21
LakeArenal Mar 27 #30
Cha Mar 27 #31
NCProgressive Mar 27 #32
Cha Mar 27 #33
saidsimplesimon Mar 27 #26
saidsimplesimon Mar 27 #28
Hortensis Mar 28 #34
betsuni Mar 28 #35
Cha Mar 29 #36

Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:17 PM

1. It's a very fine line between being on the brink

 

and brinkmanship.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:17 PM

2. Because we must be the "establishment" he keeps talking about

 

I believe that point has already been established!
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:17 PM

3. Rejection hurts

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:22 PM

4. Mr. Sanders, please drop out and be quiet. nt

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:24 PM

5. Delusion

 

He can't fathom anyone not being in love with him. They must be corporate tools.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:34 PM

19. And he was so sure..

 


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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:00 PM

22. Cocky, wasn't he?

 

Even when he thought he was winning there was no sign he was interested in unifying the country.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:04 PM

23. Exactly.. not into unifying when he was so sure

 

he was going to win with 30% coalition.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:32 PM

6. Old Bolsheviks know

 

this was their high water mark that will never be seen again. They're having trouble letting go.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:32 PM

7. Maybe next time, try running as a Republican

 

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:18 PM

29. Winner!

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:35 PM

8. If he can't accept defeat gracefully, then that confirms to me that he...

 

If he can't accept defeat gracefully, then that confirms to me that he would not have been a good president. These are the fundamental skills that a true leader possesses. A willingness to change, to admit defeat, to treat others with respect, to be able to accept the results of an election, to be willing to share, compromise, find common interests and mutual benefit.

The behavior we're seeing now is NOT what one expects to see from a true leader and a true statesman. History will not be kind to Bernie Sanders.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:42 PM

10. +1000

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:43 PM

9. As I have said before, this is last shot at relevance and history...

 

He knows he can't run again in '24. Shit, he knows the odds are against him even being alive in four years.

Most politicians instinctively know when to drop out and and then align with the leader. It's how they got where they are and how not to drop lower. Note the earlier dropouts refused to endorse anyone until they saw how the winds are blowing. Then they know how to maximize their resources for the win. And, just coincidentally, maximize their connection with the presumed winner.

Not Bernie, though. Delusional might be the word. It also helps explain his abysmal record as a Congressman and Senator.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:45 PM

11. Bernie's new chant, "One more house! One more house!" n/t

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:55 PM

12. maybe he should simply respect democratic voters

 

we all know that if something happens that Bernie is never to blame, he claims the establishment is against him!

Mostly I think Bernie doesn't like democrats & the voters have said they don't like him either! I don't care when he ends this campaign but when he does, I hope he stays out of our primaries for good! It is simply a waste of time to have to deal with his crap every 4 years!!!
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:32 PM

13. Kick

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:33 PM

14. Kick & recommended.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:39 PM

15. Ding! Ding! Ding!

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:42 PM

16. This Is The Head Shot, Sir

 



"From Bernieís perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they donít want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:50 PM

17. Him, not us.

 

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:36 PM

20. Exactly!

 


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Response to Cha (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:08 PM

25. Goodness...

 


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Response to showblue22 (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:14 PM

27. E gods with that Stein Voter Pusher.. I couldn't finish that.. west's Gaslighting

 

sickens me. sigh.

But thanks for that.. 'cause it just shows how divisive they are.

P.S. I can't understand why the "establishment" can't stand them.. that's a Real Mystery!
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:09 PM

18. Bernie's 800 lb ego is sitting on his 1/4 pound humility

 

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Response to NCProgressive (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:04 PM

24. A powerful graphic in words. Please spread that around online. nt

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:37 PM

21. But We Did "Stop" him.

 


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Response to Cha (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:20 PM

30. That's what I was thinking.

 

Great minds....❤️
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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:23 PM

31. And, he's mad.

 

❤️Gracias, LA!StaySafe!
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Response to Cha (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:49 PM

32. But .. it was not the establishment that stopped him .. you, me and voters did by the millions.

 

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Response to NCProgressive (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:37 PM

33. Yes.. you're right it was Millions of Dem Voters who stopped

 

him in SC and all 3 of those Super Spectacular Tuesdays.

But I feel when he insults the "Dem Establishment" he is insulting us all.

I stand with the Dem Establishment like John Lewis, Planned Parenthood, Nancy Pelosi.. all of them!
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:12 PM

26. The primary is over.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:18 PM

28. No worries,

 

Bernie is history, imo.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:57 AM

34. He despises Democrats. He tried to overset our sovereignty

 

to take the nomination before. Would a person like this care that Democrats don't want him or consider it validation of his contempt? Anyway, he doesn't want us either. He wants our power.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #34)

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:19 AM

35. +1

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:53 PM

36. Kick

 

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