Full Frontal with Stacey Abrams

[Dem4Life1102]

[mountain grammy]

1. She should be our VP candidate..

Stacey can relate to Americans.. She writes books Americans buy. She's brilliant, funny, and 100% qualified. Leave our female Senators in the Senate and our Reps in the House. They're doing a great job. Stacey would be governor of Georgia in a fair election and we all know it.

Stacey Abrams for Vice President!!!!

[left-of-center2012]

2. Does she meet Biden's criteria?

(Stacey Abrams served in the Georgia House of Representatives)

Joe Biden has said that if he becomes president in this year's election, he would need to appoint a vice president capable of taking over the job at a moment's notice in case he dies while in office.

'But for me, it has to be demonstrated that whoever I pick is two things: One, is capable of being president because I'm an old guy,' the 77-year-old Biden said.

'No, I'm serious. Look, I thank God I'm in great health. I work out. No, I'm serious. You know, I work out every morning. I'm in good shape — knock on wood, as my mother would say,' Biden said.

'But you never know. You never know what's going on. And I'm sure what would happen is I have — some people looking would say, 'Is the person Biden picked capable of, God forbid something happened to Biden, that they would be able to take over immediately?'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7945859/Joe-Biden-says-needs-VP-capable-president-hes-old.html

[Dem4Life1102]

3. That will be up to Biden to decide

along with other criteria such as: Can she help flip a swing state, will she help energize African American and women voters, will she help attract progressives?

[spicysista]

4. What's at stake?

"Democracy, humanity and whether or not we die." Yup, that's all. I really enjoyed this clip. The piece about pandering versus having a meaningful conversation is especially poignant. Stacey Abrams is amazing. Thanks for sharing, Dem4Life1102!

[Baked Potato]

5. She would be great!

Does anybody really think that Stacey couldn’t perform admirably as President, if something happened to Joe? Remember, she would have a working Government around her.

[Hortensis]

6. Her entire government experience is in GA's lower house

as a rep. How is it that the Republicans haven't made everyone passionate believers in the need for competence in very high office? Yes, she would be infinitely preferable to Trump, but anyone merely dreadfully inadequate would be.

I voted happily for Stacey for governor because she's a Democrat, and being black and female would have been nice plusses if we could have gotten her elected, but wanting her for president is completely off the table.

[Dem4Life1102]

7. Experience doesn't matter in electoral politics.

Never has.

[Hortensis]

8. Oh, it matters huge! HUGE! After all, a four-year term holding great

power, being someone who can't take a single well-meaning and well-thought-out step without crushing people underfoot, follows being elected. Remember?

You'll notice if you look, that most of the time sensible voters manage to weed out not just whackjobs and other incompetents but responsible, respected people who don't meet whatever minimum thresholds are in their minds. And Democratic voters always do.

Obama's experience was pretty darned minimal compared to his predecessors, we don't normally elect senators directly to the presidency, but we were already in new social media times, he had been a soaring star at whatever he'd turned his hand to, and he was at least a congressman and then briefly U.S. senator who dealt with national issues. And we didn't elect him as a first step to lowering the bar a few notches further.

But speaking in just shallow politically opportunistic terms, not caring about actual governance, Stacey Abrams is not even close to being the reassuring backup we need to offer America, someone people believe could become a real president a month after taking office, the way Roosevelt's VP had to.

[Dem4Life1102]

12. No it doesn't

If it did Clinton would be President. Obama would have lost to McCain. Gore would have beaten Bush.

And at this point any experience argument only benefits Tump.

[Hortensis]

14. Any experience argument only benefits Trump? NO!

I'm out and will just leave you with this:

[Dem4Life1102]

15. Experience arguments always benefit incumbents

[Hortensis]

16. Oh, please. Com'on. We have huge experience

to draw on. Don't deny. It's not too much to say that foolish decisions could kill your or dreadfully blight your life. What we're up against has revealed itself in so many way.

Stay well by being voting smart.

[Dem4Life1102]

17. Experience arguments will always benefit an incumbent

Just as any argument regarding Biden’s age will benefit Trump.

[Hortensis]

18. Experience benefits Trump over Biden. Got it.

I don't know what you imagine you gained in this. I didn't gain a half turn on a screw.

[Dem4Life1102]

19. Yes it is does

The argument needs to be competence and policy over experience.

[left-of-center2012]

10. "Experience doesn't matter in electoral politics"

[Dem4Life1102]

13. It doesn't and never has.

[CottonBear]

9. Speaking as a Georgian, I disagree. She is very qualified.

She was a member of the Georgia House of Representatives from 2007 to 2017, including time as the house minority leader from January 10, 2011 – July 1, 2017.

She has an exceptional education, including a law degree from Yale, in addition to a wide range of business experience and private sector consulting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacey_Abrams

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In 1995 Abrams earned a Bachelor of Arts in interdisciplinary studies (political science, economics and sociology) from Spelman College, magna cum laude.[1] While in college she worked in the youth services department in the office of Atlanta mayor Maynard Jackson.[7] She later interned at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.[7] As a freshman in 1992, Abrams took part in a protest on the steps of the Georgia Capitol, in which she joined in burning the state flag. At the time Georgia's state flag incorporated the Confederate battle flag, which had been added to the state flag in 1956 as an anti-civil rights movement action. It was designed by Southern Democrat John Sammons Bell, an attorney who was an outspoken supporter of segregation.[8][9]

As a Harry S. Truman Scholar, Abrams studied public policy at the University of Texas at Austin's LBJ School of Public Affairs, where she earned a Master of Public Affairs degree in 1998. In 1999 she earned a J.D. degree from Yale Law School.[1]

Legal and business career Edit

After graduating from law school, Abrams worked as a tax attorney at the Sutherland Asbill & Brennan law firm in Atlanta, with a focus on tax-exempt organizations, health care, and public finance.[1] In 2010, while a member of the Georgia General Assembly, Abrams co-founded and served as the senior vice president of NOW Corp. (formerly NOWaccount Network Corporation), a financial services firm.[10][11]

Abrams also co-founded Nourish, Inc., a beverage company with a focus on infants and toddlers,[12] and is CEO of Sage Works, a legal consulting firm that has represented clients including the Atlanta Dream of the WNBA.[13]

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[Hortensis]

11. Okay. What qualifies her over a good million others, I don't know.

We don't live in our TVs. A recognizable face and name are still her biggest assets, and since she turned down running for senator, they qualify her at this time to seek work as a pundit and for what she chose -- to cut her own path as an activist for voting rights.

She'll make a real difference at that or she won't. If she were given a portfolio to work from within the Biden administration, i.e., endowed with that much of the president's power, she could really happen.