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Bernie Sanders campaign uses its funds to help combat covid 19 (Original Post) Legends303 Apr 2020 OP
No, a real presidential campaign is one that cares about winning the White House LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #1
Ditto. Nitram Apr 2020 #5
Decent Enough, Sir, And Perhaps A Sign Of Concession The Magistrate Apr 2020 #2
The article is dated March 21, almost three weeks ago. And Sanders' campaign didn't raise a penny.. George II Apr 2020 #8
You Are Quite Correct, Sir --- Saying The Sanders Campaign Donated Its Funds Is Deceptive The Magistrate Apr 2020 #9
From the very beginning this campaign has been pulling stunts like this, claiming to do something... George II Apr 2020 #12
A real campaign concedes when they no longer have a path to victory... SidDithers Apr 2020 #3
Why not suspend the campaign thucythucy Apr 2020 #4
Wrong. His campaign is NOT using "its funds". He's just giving the link to the charities.... George II Apr 2020 #6
Exactly, Sir --- The Headline Is Deceptive The Magistrate Apr 2020 #7
Excellent catch... ZenDem Apr 2020 #15
Still raising funds for a failed campaign Progressive dog Apr 2020 #10
It's not even that. They're giving information on where to contribute through Act Blue.... George II Apr 2020 #13
Just more BS from BS. we can do it Apr 2020 #11
No, this is one of the more unethical things a political campaign can do. beastie boy Apr 2020 #14
This pandemic is a foreseeable result of 2016. Hortensis Apr 2020 #16
This was first posted two weeks ago...Lets see the books...how much went where? Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #17
Oh brother! GMAFB! NurseJackie Apr 2020 #18
Sort of Like Jill Stein Fundraising to Fund Recounts TomCADem Apr 2020 #19
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
1. No, a real presidential campaign is one that cares about winning the White House
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:14 AM
Apr 2020

I applaud the fundraising by Senator Sanders; he should leave the race and make that his focus.

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The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
2. Decent Enough, Sir, And Perhaps A Sign Of Concession
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:16 AM
Apr 2020

If it were a donation of funds held in a campaign war-chest, it might be taken as indicating Sanders was bringing his doomed campaign to a halt.

If this is simply a touting of his asking followers to contribute to charities through his campaign, that is something else again. That is not a sign he has done 'what a real campaign does that actually cares about the issues', it is just posturing in his own interest. There is no need for people to channel charitable donations through the Sanders campaign, after all. A call to his followers to donate would have been just as effective. But it would not have provided a tally for Sanders to bruit about as proof' he alone cares.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."




"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

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George II

(67,782 posts)
8. The article is dated March 21, almost three weeks ago. And Sanders' campaign didn't raise a penny..
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020

...Act Blue and the charities did.

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The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
9. You Are Quite Correct, Sir --- Saying The Sanders Campaign Donated Its Funds Is Deceptive
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:33 AM
Apr 2020



"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
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George II

(67,782 posts)
12. From the very beginning this campaign has been pulling stunts like this, claiming to do something...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:38 AM
Apr 2020

....far beyond what they actually do.

It's a reflection of the candidate who, too, has been taking credit for the work of others - i.e., "The Amendment King". Thankfully they've done it so much that people have finally caught on.

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
3. A real campaign concedes when they no longer have a path to victory...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:17 AM
Apr 2020

There's nothing stopping Bernie from raising COVID funds as an independent Senator from VT.

Sid

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thucythucy

(7,986 posts)
4. Why not suspend the campaign
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:24 AM
Apr 2020

and send people who want to donate directly to the charities that are helping? The money would in all likelihood get there faster, which in itself could save some lives.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Wrong. His campaign is NOT using "its funds". He's just giving the link to the charities....
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:30 AM
Apr 2020

...on Act Blue. His campaign hasn't given a penny to any of the charities.

What would have been more effective is the contact information for each of the charities so people could contribute directly, eliminating the middle man and getting more money to the charities.

There are significant transaction and credit card fees involved. Depending upon the size of the transaction up to 20% could be deducted.

BTW, that article is from almost three weeks ago, March 21.

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The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
7. Exactly, Sir --- The Headline Is Deceptive
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020

The date I confess I had not noticed....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."




"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ZenDem

(442 posts)
15. Excellent catch...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:43 AM
Apr 2020

...thank you for the info.

I'm not sure why anyone would donate to a charity through a political campaign. Oh...he asked them to.

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Progressive dog

(6,862 posts)
10. Still raising funds for a failed campaign
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:34 AM
Apr 2020

and linking to charities is not a real campaign. It is a dishonest campaign. Bernie needs to stop using any pretext to continue a campaign that now has become a helper to the President it claims to be working against.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
13. It's not even that. They're giving information on where to contribute through Act Blue....
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:41 AM
Apr 2020

....the campaign isn't giving anything to the charities.

Then they take credit for "raising" the funds.

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beastie boy

(9,063 posts)
14. No, this is one of the more unethical things a political campaign can do.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:42 AM
Apr 2020

He is politicizing a health crisis. And he is diverting the donations from his supporters to promote causes of his choice.

I gave this example before: imagine Trump diverting conntributions to his campaign to fund organizations like NRA and Republican National Coalition for Life. What would you say to THAT?

Exactly. That's what I am saying about Bernie's stunt.

If he sincerely wanted to raise money to help the COVID victims, he would have gotten out of politics and started a non-profit charitable organization. And he would have staffed it with competent professionals, not his political operatives.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. This pandemic is a foreseeable result of 2016.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:51 AM
Apr 2020

We've been battling epidemic disease successfully all this century. Then COVID arrived when mentally disordered, sociopathic Trump is in the WH and when, double tragically, RW extremist, probably sociopathic Republicans control the senate. And refused to contain it.

The need for some "redemptive" PR is is entirely clear, but forget it. From them, that it's only about good intentions toward others is not credible. I will never forget or forgive the horrendous role Sanders and his camp played in bringing us to this.

NYT: Coronavirus Live Coverage: U.S. Records Highest Death Toll in Single Day; Black Americans Disproportionately Hit

That was yesterday. This morning the death toll's risen to 13,000. Current hopeful news is that it may not exceed 100,000.
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Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
17. This was first posted two weeks ago...Lets see the books...how much went where?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:53 AM
Apr 2020

Get out Sanders.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. Oh brother! GMAFB!
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:59 AM
Apr 2020
This is what a real campaign does that actually cares about the issues. Only campaign to do this so far.
Oh brother! GMAFB! What a pantload!

Wrong! A "real campaign" focuses on winning back the White House and defeating the GOP.

Joe is serious about winning the race to the White House. Bernie is serious about grabbing headlines and trying to "shame" others by pretending to be better and the most pure of all... the "only" candidate who "cares" about the "issues". What malarkey!


"Baloney!"
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TomCADem

(17,378 posts)
19. Sort of Like Jill Stein Fundraising to Fund Recounts
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 11:03 AM
Apr 2020

How did that workout? Perhaps rather than compete with actual charities and cause confusion, BS should just end his campaign and encourage people to donate directly to aid groups.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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