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And yet another bash of Biden by Sanders' National Press Secretary! (Original Post) George II Apr 2020 OP
All to be expected MyNameGoesHere Apr 2020 #1
Rather amusing double negative there, Briahna. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #2
She got dragged to hell and back for that Tucker Carlson shit ismnotwasm Apr 2020 #3
But Of Course, Sir, Apologists For This Will Surely Appear The Magistrate Apr 2020 #4
This was precisely the reasoning of the KPD-- thucythucy Apr 2020 #10
Time to expose them for what they are.. Peacetrain Apr 2020 #5
Hey BJG.. BS Lost & he Spent 4x MORE $$$$ than Joe Biden did to WIN. Cha Apr 2020 #6
Some guys have all the luck Sloumeau Apr 2020 #7
Disgusting! She's a horrible woman... and a Jill Stein supporter/voter. NurseJackie Apr 2020 #8
These idiots are gonna be a reason if Joe ends up losing vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #9
"Us, not Me" ehrnst Apr 2020 #11
"vulnerabilities" -- she's just mad that their propaganda machine about "vulnerabilities" R B Garr Apr 2020 #12
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
1. All to be expected
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 01:45 PM
Apr 2020

The ISFV didn't deliver the rainbows and ponies and they be mad as shit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
2. Rather amusing double negative there, Briahna.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 01:45 PM
Apr 2020

"You cannot not blame the left for your chosen candidate’s vulnerabilities."

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Joe Biden
 

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
3. She got dragged to hell and back for that Tucker Carlson shit
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 01:49 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
4. But Of Course, Sir, Apologists For This Will Surely Appear
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 01:50 PM
Apr 2020

This person, like any number of 'Bernie' supporters, makes it abundantly clear that attacking Democrats is preferable to attacking Republicans.

The 'further left' traditionally take as their chief immediate enemy parties and political figures of the center left, rather than parties and figures of the right. This is because a strong center-left party balks any possibility of revolution. It will have the allegiance of most working people, because it will bring them real benefits in their lives, and by doing so, will shut off influence of the 'further left' by making it clear measures well short of the desperate expedients the 'further left' prescribes for improving the lot of working people are not necessary.

Because center-left parties do uphold the present order of society, the 'further left' sees them as obstacles to its desires quite as much as any reactionary party on the right. Thus you have the 'not a dime's worth of difference' line that views our two major parties as interchangeable. Since the 'further left' cannot comprehend how working people could possibly form an honest attachment to rightist parties, their view comes to be that center-left parties are their chief obstacle to mass support from working people, and they imagine that if center-left parties are broken, they will inherit the mass support of working people, and thus become predominant. Then it will be the time to deal with the reactionary right, but until it is the 'further left' which has undisputed leadership of working people, the reactionary right cannot be dealt with properly.

Properly, here, indicating a policy guided by the slogan quite popular in the radical salad days of the sixties and seventies: 'What's the solution? Revolution!' Few nowadays on the 'further left' dream of an actual, barricades and snipers and car-bombs sort of armed revolution, but they do envision a complete overthrow of existing economic and social arrangements. One of the things they fail to understand about working people, and people on the lower rungs of the economic scale generally, is that people who have not much but do have a little are extremely reluctant to put the little they have at risk, and they know that in turmoil and tumult that little will be at risk. There are strains of the 'further left' which do have some understanding of this, and their view is that working people must be made to lose that little they have now, and lose it to the unmitigated predation of the reactionary right. Only then, when they have nothing to lose, will working people be ready for revolution under the banner of the 'further left'. This provides such people still another reason to oppose and demolish center left parties, as these do mitigate the suffering the right would impose on working people, and so are the chief force in balking revolution. These elements view an initial triumph of the reactionary right as an essential step in their own program to achieve revolution, and so are actually quite pleased by the reactionary right achieving political success at the expense of center-left parties.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thucythucy

(8,045 posts)
10. This was precisely the reasoning of the KPD--
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 03:07 PM
Apr 2020

the German Communist Party--in the late 1920s and early 1930s. They labeled the less radical Social Democrats "Social Fascists" and actually aligned themselves with the Nazis to bring down the Weimar Republic. The ascendance of Hitler they said would be "s temporary aberration" which would be followed by the inevitable triumph of the proletariat (meaning themselves). And we all know how that worked out.

Susan Sarandon's infamous quote--that a Trump presidency would bring about an immediate revolution--conforms precisely to this deluded line of reasoning.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
5. Time to expose them for what they are..
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 01:51 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,142 posts)
6. Hey BJG.. BS Lost & he Spent 4x MORE $$$$ than Joe Biden did to WIN.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 01:58 PM
Apr 2020

What did you spend all the money on?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
7. Some guys have all the luck
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 02:42 PM
Apr 2020

Some guys have all the luck
Some guys have all the pain
Some guys get all the breaks
Some guys do nothing but complain

....as for me...I'm not complaining.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Disgusting! She's a horrible woman... and a Jill Stein supporter/voter.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

Bernie chose her as a slap in the face to the Democrats... and she's using every possible opportunity to do exactly that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
9. These idiots are gonna be a reason if Joe ends up losing
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 03:07 PM
Apr 2020

Refusal to vote and whining like spoiled children. Maybe if his base voted then things would have been different. All they do is moan on Twitter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
12. "vulnerabilities" -- she's just mad that their propaganda machine about "vulnerabilities"
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 03:21 PM
Apr 2020

didn't resonate. She is quite the simpleton.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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