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Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:16 AM

 

Sen. Sanders: To Defeat Trump, Joe Biden Has To Bring New People Into His Political World





If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Reply Sen. Sanders: To Defeat Trump, Joe Biden Has To Bring New People Into His Political World (Original post)
yuiyoshida Apr 2020 OP
LizBeth Apr 2020 #1
Cha Apr 2020 #6
LizBeth Apr 2020 #7
Hortensis Apr 2020 #20
Vivienne235729 Apr 2020 #12
HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #2
GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #3
Cha Apr 2020 #4
emmaverybo Apr 2020 #8
Cha Apr 2020 #9
msongs Apr 2020 #5
GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #10
Cha Apr 2020 #11
GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #14
Cha Apr 2020 #17
Green Line Apr 2020 #13
The Magistrate Apr 2020 #15
Cha Apr 2020 #18
Gothmog Apr 2020 #16
Sunlei Apr 2020 #19

Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:19 AM

1. Sanders who could not get votes out is going to micromanage all the way thru. What an....

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to LizBeth (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:34 AM

6. I know.. Biden has 70% NEW PEOPLE & BS stayed at

 

30%.. so what exactly is he trying to do here?

Never mind.. . I know the answer..

Take the South Carolina primary on Feb. 29, which Biden won, or the 10 of 14 states he captured on Super Tuesday: In all, he appealed to the same coalitions that boosted Democrats so strongly in the 2018 midterm elections, turning out large numbers of suburban voters, while maintaining support from longstanding elements of the Democratic coalition, particularly African American voters.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/why-did-bernie-sanders-drop-out-progressive-majority-he-needed-ncna1179571
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Response to Cha (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:35 AM

7. Sanders is all about shitting on the Dems and smelling up the room. I see no other contribution.

 

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:17 AM

20. Yup. Of course Warren as Biden's running mate in 2016

 

would not have been a "new" person, but she's living refutation of Sanders' dishonest criticism/smear. (What a team B-W would make in the WH!)

To defeat Trump, Democrats have made excellent progress by kicking Sanders to the side while Biden focused on running against the Republicans and for America. Of course neither Sanders nor Trump are likely to understand that their problems are their own doing as they're both still waiting for giant waves of support to rescue them.
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Response to LizBeth (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:05 AM

12. +10000 EXACTLY!!

 

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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:23 AM

2. Thanks for the tip.

 



BTW, as long as we’re talking about Bernie, Biden’s coalition is a lot broader. That’s why he beat Bernie soundly all over the country.
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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:28 AM

3. We don't need Sanders' "new" people

 

They don't show up to vote as has been proven.

In fact, Biden got 70% of the "new" people who had not voted the past few elections.
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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:28 AM

4. Cha to BS. Please Keep Up.. Joe Biden has brought New People into

 

the Voting Process.

More New People Voted for Joe Biden than Sanders and BS Spent 4x More $$$$ to Lose than Biden did to Win.

Joe Biden got "new voters" "in his political world" in these states..

Joe Biden Winning in South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida, Arkansas, Alabama, Idaho, Illinois, Arizona, Michigan, Maine, Massachusetts, Washington, Virginia,& Minnesota.. so far..

Sanders stayed at his 30% base.. so I don't think Biden needs any advice from BS on "New People".

ETA~
Take the South Carolina primary on Feb. 29, which Biden won, or the 10 of 14 states he captured on Super Tuesday: In all, he appealed to the same coalitions that boosted Democrats so strongly in the 2018 midterm elections, turning out large numbers of suburban voters, while maintaining support from longstanding elements of the Democratic coalition, particularly African American voters.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/why-did-bernie-sanders-drop-out-progressive-majority-he-needed-ncna1179571

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:37 AM

8. Yes!

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:49 AM

9. Gosh! Just when you think you can

 

rest for a second.. something like this pops up.

Aloha, emmaverybo!
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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:29 AM

5. let him talk all he wants. it helps him recuperate. he can write a book nt

 

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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 12:58 AM

10. Jesus! There is not some mythical group of voters out there pining for a candidate they like

 

To finally decide to go to the polls. Joe will get all the Obama collation that too many sat out in 16.

Plus the non-interested independents who were never going to vote for Hillary but like Joe.

But maybe the most important. There are 3-5% of republican voters who reluctantly pulled the lever for trump or did not vote top of ticket who were never gonna vote for Hillary. They will vote for Joe. I work with 3 of them I know of. There are probably more. Most people don’t follow politics like we do. If trump loses 2% of his 16 republican voters it will be a landslide for Joe.
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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:02 AM

11. More than a few #Nevertrump and they

 

are loud and eloquent!

Thanks for your post, GulfCoast66
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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:21 AM

14. Thanks Cha. I've been very reluctant to post on the primary forum.

 

But as you probably know I’ve been for Joe even before he declared.

Just could not see the advantage of adding to the, admittedly reduced rancor, we saw in 16.

One advantage of this virus. I’ve been furloughed for at least 6 weeks. We are fine as our healthcare is covered and we have resources and benefit time most Americans don’t.

So tomorrow I’m calling the county Democratic Party office to see how I can help.

Hope you are well. Seems like your state is determined to keep it away until there is a vaccine.

Luck of geography.

Take care.
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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:02 AM

17. It's been a rollercoaster.. I can't believe it's

 

over.. mostly.

I didn't remember exactly that you have been for Biden even before he declared.. which was his Launch Vid on April 25, 2019. I was for him too in anticipation that he would be the one to beat trump and I liked him for the job.

And, Joe Biden came through for us supporters.. and most of us were there for him through thick and thin and back again.

Good on you volunteering to help the Dem Party there.. All hands on Deck!

Hawaii is doing everything it can to impede the spreading of CV.. our Island of Kauai is the least affected. 18 cases here for the last 3 days and no deaths is encouraging..

Honolulu: 328
Maui: 54
Hawai‘i: 26
Kaua‘i: 18

https://bigislandnow.com/2020/04/08/doh-confirms-25-new-covid-19-cases-sixth-death/

Like you said. "..luck of geography.. " I was thinking about that the other day. As in sometimes I've wished I were back on the mainland to see my friends and my family there more.. and I miss all the best organic produce in California.. but now it's good to be here at this time in history.. knock on wood!

You and your family take care, too.. Aloha & Mahalo


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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:19 AM

13. I'm so tired of this guy

 

Go away Bernie
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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:24 AM

15. If Sanders Had Useful Advice On The Subject, Ma'am

 

He would have gotten more votes.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:41 AM

18. EXactly.. I hate this kind of

 

Malarkey especially. Advice from someone who wasn't able to pull it off.

Don't we have enough real things to deal with?
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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:02 AM

16. Why did Bernie Sanders drop out? The progressive majority he needed doesn't exist

 

There was no magical voter revolution



Biden’s vision has now won out: He is the apparent Democratic nominee after Sanders suspended his campaign Wednesday following a mid-pandemic Wisconsin primary marred by vast polling site closures and a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that effectively invalidated many absentee ballots. (Sanders said Monday, given the risks to voters, his campaign would not engage in traditional efforts to get them to the polls.)….

And in particular, his decisive win over Sanders in the primary — without even campaigning in many states — further highlights the limitations of progressive politics in America, at least in winning a national campaign.

Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, made a bad bet on the existence of a national progressive majority (as did Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who ran as a progressive populist but dropped out after Super Tuesday). It turns out there's nothing even close.

In fact, it’s not even clear that a progressive majority exists within the Democratic Party. What does exist is a moderately center-left party with a vocal progressive element.

Sanders frequently said on the campaign trail that he was leading a “multigenerational, multiracial movement,” pledging to mobilize an army of new, young voters. But it turns out older and moderate voters are the ones that grew as a share of the Democratic primary electorate since 2016 — and they favored Biden by a wide margin.

Take the South Carolina primary on Feb. 29, which Biden won, or the 10 of 14 states he captured on Super Tuesday: In all, he appealed to the same coalitions that boosted Democrats so strongly in the 2018 midterm elections, turning out large numbers of suburban voters, while maintaining support from longstanding elements of the Democratic coalition, particularly African American voters.....

Still, with the 2020 Democratic primary process essentially over, it’s clear that the hard-core Democratic left was deluded in their assertions that they were the new Democratic majority. They are going to need a better grip on reality if they are to be successful at the national level moving forward
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Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:07 AM

19. Voices like BETO and YANG on the campaign stage would add a lot to the Campaign.

 

Beto did so well in Texas, the election was very, very close vs a longtime popular Republican. People love him.

Yang speaks to guaranteed income and that sure is revelant to the current corona depression.

Sanders too with healthcare to all & no cost education is very relevant in these current times.
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