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Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:50 AM

 

Kudos to Bernie Sanders for going on Fox News

Democratic candidates should be prepared to be questioned outside the bubble of MSNBC and liberal media, and Republicans should be forced to have their news bubble popped.



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Reply Kudos to Bernie Sanders for going on Fox News (Original post)
brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #1
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #4
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #2
Skya Rhen Apr 2019 #25
brooklynite Apr 2019 #26
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #27
Skya Rhen Apr 2019 #30
stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #3
Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #5
stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #8
Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #10
thesquanderer Apr 2019 #12
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #44
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #7
stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #9
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #14
ehrnst Apr 2019 #17
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #20
ehrnst Apr 2019 #22
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #23
ehrnst Apr 2019 #24
Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #11
yaesu Apr 2019 #43
Hoyt Apr 2019 #6
ehrnst Apr 2019 #13
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #15
ehrnst Apr 2019 #16
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #18
namahage Apr 2019 #38
Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #19
oldsoftie Apr 2019 #21
Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #28
Baltimike Apr 2019 #29
Demit Apr 2019 #42
FM123 Apr 2019 #31
Joediss Apr 2019 #32
JudyM Apr 2019 #40
ucrdem Apr 2019 #33
Politicub Apr 2019 #35
Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #36
Politicub Apr 2019 #34
Kurt V. Apr 2019 #37
Joediss Apr 2019 #39
ancianita Apr 2019 #41
Name removed Apr 2019 #45
LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #46

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:53 AM

1. Agreed

 

I believe that all the candidates would be wise to do so. I can understand the Party dismissing them as a host for the debates, but the campaigns need to reach out to the Fox Viewers as best as they can do so.

I believe that Yang has already appeared there once or twice from my understanding.
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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:58 AM

4. I believe they should also get a debate. Avoiding it just makes them look weak.

 

Some world leaders arent going to be friendly territory either; learn to deal with it.

ETA: Andrew Yang has been on there, you're right. And i also think FBN too.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:56 AM

2. He certainly makes any other Democrat who refuses to do what he did look bad.

 

If this was all a set up to make him or anyone else look bad, it would be so obvious.
Sanders makes himself look strong going on the network that many cannot stand & freely giving his point of view. And neother of those hosts are hacks either.
If this had been hosted by Hannity i would think differently.
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:19 AM

25. Knowing Fox, the applause by members of the audience was staged

 

for the purpose of giving a false sense of support to Bernie in order to influence public opinion, thereby making him the Democratic nominee and ultimately giving Trump the win in the battleground states. They are the masters of manipulation and they had lots of time to plot and prepare for this.

There is no way that Brett Baier would have asked a question that he did not already know the answer to. Everything that Fox hosts have ever done has been strategize and scripted and this is no different. The set-up is glaringly obvious to me.

I will never subscribe to Fox News propaganda - but that's just me...
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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:21 AM

26. That's bordering on a fringe conspiracy theory...

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:25 AM

27. Oh God. Sounds like my friend who thinks Trump looks stupid ON PURPOSE; its a trick!

 

Thats how he hides how smart he REALLY is. To trap the Democrats.
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #27)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:31 AM

30. Fox has always been calculating and strategic

 

unlike the bumbling idiot in the White House. Begin trusting Fox at your own demise - I won't...
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:58 AM

3. fox is not a legitimate news source .

 

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:00 AM

5. No it is certainly not

 

But it still has many viewers who need to be reached with a different message than what the WH would like them to hear.
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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:02 AM

8. you are not going to reach fox viewers !

 

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:09 AM

10. I disagree with your conclusion

 

For the most part you may be correct, but everyone that is chipped away is a win and one might note that Bernie got a big positive response to Medicare for All.
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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:14 AM

12. I disagree - There are MANY Fox viewers who don't like Trump

 

And I think some could be persuaded to vote for the Dem in 2020 as the less unappealing of two "flawed" choices.
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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 01:53 PM

44. Odd how many people dont know that a sizable piece of Fox viewers are Democrats or left-center.

 

According to the NYT, nearly 1/2 of Fox viewers dont even identify as "conservative".
And Independents win elections.
A candidate ignores a large pool of voters at their own peril. And how can i criticize a republican for refusing to go on MSNBC or the like if Dems do the same thing?
I'm pretty sure most folks here are able to think for themselves & see thru BS
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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:01 AM

7. Well, you missed a good appearance by Sanders.

 

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:03 AM

9. LOL no i did not !

 

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:25 AM

14. So you've seen bad reviews of his appearance? I doubt it.

 

More likely you're just following the herd of those scared to go into the "lions den" of the scary fox interview!

And i'm NOT a Sanders backer at this time either, so i'm not just grandstanding.
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:36 AM

17. I have seen bad reviews of his appearance. (nt)

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:47 AM

20. Really? Link us to a couple. Unless they're from trump.

 

Because i've googled it and seen nothing of the sort.
And it was no softball townhall either
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:59 AM

22. OK, in addition to the FoxNews review of his performance:

 

Google: "phyrric victory" fox

And this morning Hannity, mocked him and his performance to their fans, who are known for simply agreeing with anything and everything they say.

Hannity Scoffs at Fox News’ Bernie Sanders Town Hall: ‘Gee, Let’s Hear Every Possible Communist Idea’

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/hannity-scoffs-at-fox-news-bernie-sanders-town-hall-gee-lets-hear-every-possible-communist-idea/

The review by FoxNews for his performance was mocking him as a hypocrite, and this is likely what FoxNews consumers will think about it, as they believe FoxNews over fact.

Bernie Sanders, at combative Fox News town hall, makes no apologies for making millions

You will need to google that title and get the link yourself, as I will not link to their website here on DU.


It’s unlikely that any Fox viewers will ditch Trump for the Sanders camp. Sanders, after all, said he disagrees with pretty much everything the president stands for. He called Trump “dangerous,” adding that “I don’t think the American people are proud that we have a president who is a pathological liar.” I’m betting that clip won’t show up on “Fox & Friends,” which regularly serves up Trump’s morning nourishment of sycophancy and bootlicking.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/16/bernie-sanders-fox-news-town-hall-medicare-for-all-abortion-taxes-column/3479747002/

Of course other commentators were laying the groundwork for their fans before the town hall:

FOX NEWS HOSTS BLAST BERNIE SANDERS SUCCESSFUL BOOK SALES, CALL HIM 'MILLIONAIRE SOCIALIST' AMID MIDWEST CAMPAIGN

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-fox-news-millionaire-success-books-sales-socialist-attack-1395628


I think that the takeaway is that Bernie likely didn't gain any fans, nor lose any. People's opinions on him won't change because of this, and he gave FoxNews salespeople something to give advertisers who were on the fence an excuse to go ahead and make a buy.


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Response to ehrnst (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:07 AM

23. Gee, HANNITY scoffs at Bernies townhall. Imagine that. I'd be shocked if he didnt.

 

The last thing hannity would do is praise Sanders.

Criticism of Sanders taking full benefit of capitalism while claiming to be a socialist is fair game though; and has been done by several folks when it became known. Unless he gives away that book money!
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:14 AM

24. You asked. I answered. You really think that FoxNews veiwers are going to switch to Bernie, and stop

 

listening to Hannity because of that town hall? Seriously?

You really think that anyone who saw that town hall changed their mind about Bernie - one way or another? If you adore Bernie, you LOVED it, he was BRILLIANT and MAGNETIC and he obviously converted many! If you are lukewarm on Bernie, you are still lukewarm. If you were a FoxNews regular, you went back to watching Hannity and the Fox and Friends call him a wealthy, crazy communo-socialist hypocrite, and agreed with them.



And yes, I gave you a google for a negative review of his performance, which you apparently missed. So I met your challenge.



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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:10 AM

11. Agreed

 

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:40 AM

43. I'm against treating fox like anything but the paid propaganda channel it is

 

for the fascists. I like that the DNC isn't including them in the debates. If individual candidates want to use them as a voice more power to them, a may help getting some ideas out there but doubt it will get any votes.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:01 AM

6. Yes. That's where the heathen are. Ignoring them, makes no sense.

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:22 AM

13. Well, it certainly gave them cred with potential advertisers that they are paying lip service

 

to "balanced."
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:26 AM

15. Did you watch the townhall?

 

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #15)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:34 AM

16. What does that have to do with FoxNews using his townhall for

 

cred with advertisers who might hesitate because they think FoxNews is biased?

And I don't have cable.
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:44 AM

18. Because he was given an open platform, not just some trick to appear balanced.

 

Everyone has been invited to do the same. If they were totally "unbalanced", no democrat would ever be invited.
He was asked tough questions & stood firm. He had a surprisingly friendly audience attending; an audience picked by Fox.
Watch the show; its better than many i've seen on other networks.
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:03 AM

38. This is the same network that gave Alan Colmes a regular platform.

 

And, likely, for many of the same reasons.
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:46 AM

19. I honestly doubt many corporate advertizers care whether FOX is considered biased

 

Just like they don't care that a good chunk of the public thinks that MSNBC is "biased". What they do care about is content that is considered "too controversial". Which is why certain shows on FOX get hit hard by advertisers who withdraw ads from those shows, not from FOX overall.
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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:48 AM

21. Exactly. Comparing MacCallum & Baier to nighttime hosts is ridiculous.

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:29 AM

28. Kicked and recommended.

 

Thanks for the thread brooklynite.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:30 AM

29. MSNBC is *NOT* the "liberal media"

 

The liberal media does not exist....it's been the conservative press all along.
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Response to Baltimike (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:29 AM

42. Agree. The more people claim there's a liberal media, the more conservative it gets.

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:37 AM

31. I have mixed feelings about it.

 

It could only help/hurt/ do nothing....
The one thing I feel pretty certain about is that while we may not be able to get repugs to vote for a Dem, we can get them to stay home. One less vote for them helps us. I remember back when Doug Jones was running for Session's old seat in AL and while the repugs would not cast votes for him, many repugs were so disgusted/uninspired/angry??? at teen predator Roy Moore that they stayed home that night and did not vote. That was a win for us.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:51 AM

32. Fox propaganda

 

Why would anybody treat Fox news as as anything by a state tv for the president, fuck Fox news and all Bernie is doing is getting further on my shit list
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Response to Joediss (Reply #32)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:18 AM

40. The horse is already out of the barn. So every faux viewer we can reach through any means to NOT

 

vote for tRump is a win for our side, whoever our nominee is. Any opportunity to facilitate perspective shifting of those viewers who may be decent, if misled, people is highly valuable. The irredeemably racist, sexist, homophobic viewers are a lost cause but there are many others. I hope they invite him, and other Dem candidates, on again. We cannot beat the faux propaganda by ignoring it, we have to add our voices
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:52 AM

33. He should have honored the embargo.

 

He didn't. There's a word for that.
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Response to ucrdem (Reply #33)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:59 AM

35. What embargo?

 

I couldn’t find anything about individual candidates agreeing not to appear where they want to. The democratic party will not hold a debate on Fox. That’s not a media embargo, though.
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Response to ucrdem (Reply #33)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:01 AM

36. There is no embargo. Tom Perez, DNC Chair, goes on FOX news and defends doing so. Traitor? lol

 

The DNC issued an official statement not long ago clarifying that Democratic politicians need to do what they have to to reach voters, including going on FOX. It specified that refusing to allow FOX to host DNC debates was a specific decision regarding that function and format and should not be generalized
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:54 AM

34. He did great

 

I agree. They have nothing to worry about by going on Fox. The hosts were caught flat-footed and Bernie played them like a fiddle.

I didn’t like tuning to Fox (shudder) but I did get satisfaction from seeing the crowds positive reaction.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:02 AM

37. K&R

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:17 AM

39. Yeah

 

Yeah, kudos for Bernie pick up the 2 voters that watch news and thought they were watching real news network.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:24 AM

41. He's done a lot to let conservatives know that we have problems in common.

 

DNC spokesperson Xochitl Hinojosa told The Daily Beast that the DNC believes that "we must reach all voters, including their audience. "

They likely see him as having been an independent, and so they might trust him more than other Democratic candidates.

Or they might just want to hear him out.

And they're probably listening to their Millennial kids.

I've never read the word "embargo" from the DNC. The party's choice not to sponsor appearances doesn't mean they're engaged in an embargo.

Buttigieg, Inslee, Yang, Julian Castro have been on Fox, as well.
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Tue Apr 16, 2019, 02:22 PM

46. +1

 

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