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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:01 AM Apr 2019

Even as a Buttigieg fan, some of these fawning columns about him irritate me

Specifically I dislike it when a politics writer essentially asks "Why is this guy who we're all deciding to write a column about suddenly surging in the polls?" Duh.

Trump was essentially handed the R nomination by the media. They really need to take their jobs during primaries more seriously, and do some background on every candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Even as a Buttigieg fan, some of these fawning columns about him irritate me (Original Post) Recursion Apr 2019 OP
Right now Pete is a very shiny new penny. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #1
Agreed! Equal media attention. mysteryowl Apr 2019 #2
He is fresh air compared to what we have in the WH and Iliyah Apr 2019 #3
For me DownriverDem Apr 2019 #4
That's a difficult thing to assess. You can look at polls but people change their minds. marylandblue Apr 2019 #7
Buttigieg and Trump share the ability to use the media effectively. marylandblue Apr 2019 #5
I am more amused by BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #6
They are getting very repetitive Indygram Apr 2019 #9
They think convincing some 1,000 people BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #10
Maybe Indygram Apr 2019 #12
"Birth of a Cult Figure" will be aired next year on cable. Hortensis Apr 2019 #8
Next year? BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #11
Lol. Next in a series. Hortensis Apr 2019 #14
I don't support anybody NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #13
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
1. Right now Pete is a very shiny new penny.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:08 AM
Apr 2019

Only 37
Mayor from small town
Midwestern
Rhodes scholar
Speaks seven languages
Plays piano well
Afghan war Vet
Christian
Openly gay
Married to man

That’s a lot of FIRSTS in a prez candidate for the media to explore.
The media loves firsts.
They love new and shiny.
That will soon wear off, though.
He will then be treated like the rest and they will search for the flaws.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,373 posts)
2. Agreed! Equal media attention.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:09 AM
Apr 2019

Mayor Pete is so interesting though, the media can't stay away. Plus, he is really making the rounds with multiple & diverse media sources. A smart tactic!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. He is fresh air compared to what we have in the WH and
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:25 AM
Apr 2019

the Republican party.

The combination of the Democratic Party's candidates, in particular, Mayor Pete is young, quite the road scholar and media fierce.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,227 posts)
4. For me
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:49 AM
Apr 2019

It's who can beat trump. Who can win the electoral college? It's not who I like or who you like. It's who can win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. That's a difficult thing to assess. You can look at polls but people change their minds.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:16 AM
Apr 2019

You can base it your what you think they want, but they may not know what they want themselves. You can base it on the assumption that moderates are better, familiar is better, gender or race matters, etc., but these are just assumptions.

So saying you just want someone who can win gets you nowhere. Instead ask what a winning candidate looks like, and who best fits that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. Buttigieg and Trump share the ability to use the media effectively.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:50 AM
Apr 2019

Trump says outrageous things they can't help but cover. He presses buttons deep in their reporter brains. He also cultivates media relationships, people he gives juicy stories to, in exchange for positive coverage.

Buttigieg aggressively pursue interviews. He probably has someone calling media outlets day and night and seems never to turn down an opportunity. He seems to engage with the hosts, so they will want to talk to him again.

Winning candidates have media strategies to get them more coverage. That has a lot to do with why you see some people more than others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
6. I am more amused by
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:52 AM
Apr 2019

the Sanders ra ra ra OPs which have no basis in reality.

Buttigieg's OPs are ok in my book. They are realistic by and large.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
9. They are getting very repetitive
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:08 PM
Apr 2019

And sadly it has gotten to be the same, if not worse level as the Sanders threads.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
10. They think convincing some 1,000 people
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:09 PM
Apr 2019

on DU will help him win the election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indygram

(2,113 posts)
12. Maybe
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:18 PM
Apr 2019

it's getting a bit excessive, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. "Birth of a Cult Figure" will be aired next year on cable.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 04:06 PM
Apr 2019

But we're watching it now.

No insult to Buttigieg. I really doubt he could have predicted his unsuspected perfection would spark this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
11. Next year?
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:10 PM
Apr 2019

I saw "Birth of a cult figure" in 2016 -- perhaps a prequel?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Lol. Next in a series.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:08 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
13. I don't support anybody
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:30 PM
Apr 2019

but, I think Mayor Pete is the media flavor of the month - they're looking for a compelling story for next year's election and he would be a near complete opposite to Donny Dollhands.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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