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Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:58 AM

 

How is Bernie polling among African Americans?

It seems like he is generally polling well, but I wonder if he somehow becomes the nominee will he be able to bring out the African American vote. What I call the “standing in the cold November rain” test. Will African Americans be willing to stand in the rain for hours to vote for him?
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Reply How is Bernie polling among African Americans? (Original post)
Dream Girl Apr 2019 OP
ancianita Apr 2019 #1
artislife Apr 2019 #2
ancianita Apr 2019 #3
artislife Apr 2019 #4
ancianita Apr 2019 #6
Dream Girl Apr 2019 #5
Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #7
dogman Apr 2019 #8
Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #9
ancianita Apr 2019 #10
Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #11
ancianita Apr 2019 #12
Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #13
ancianita Apr 2019 #14
Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #15
ancianita Apr 2019 #16
Dream Girl Apr 2019 #17
Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #18
Dream Girl Apr 2019 #19
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Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #21

Response to Dream Girl (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:18 AM

1. Maybe no Dem will pass the "standing in the rain test." But here's Quinnipiac.

 

The poll is months old, but it's a major poll, so there's that.

So far...
Biden and Bernie are both popular

African Americans love Biden, 73-12.
A lot of Latinos don’t know who he is, but those who do like him 46-18.
White people like Biden, too, by a 52-38 margin. Biden even does okay with white men (49-43) and white voters with no college degree (44-41).

Biden does best with voters under 35 (60-21) but also does pretty well with old people (54-33).
Bernie Sanders is distinctly less popular than Biden at 44-42 and, accordingly, is less uniformly popular across demographic groups.

African Americans (55-26) and Latinos (52-26) like Bernie, but he’s slightly underwater (43-45) with whites, faring especially poorly with white men (40-51) and working-class whites (38-44).
Young people really like Sanders (57-29), but old people do not (40-45).


https://www.vox.com/2018/12/19/18148681/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-approval-rating

Here's the latest Rasmussen (conservative poller) presidential matchup, which is probably one reason he did a Fox News town hall.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/white_house_watch_apr12
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Response to ancianita (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:25 AM

2. Love this response

 

Just the facts.

This half Latina loves Bernie but wishes he was much younger. Not so thrilled with Joe, doesn't make a difference that he is too old, too.
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Response to artislife (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:26 AM

3. I'm with you on both counts.

 

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Response to ancianita (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:28 AM

4. I am this close to putting Inslee on my sigline

 

I am just worried he isn't getting enough exposure. I have voted for him before!
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Response to artislife (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:47 AM

6. It's still a whole year early. We'll see. Right now my hope and change guy is for saving the world.

 

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Response to ancianita (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:28 AM

5. Thanks for posting.

 

Surprising to see that Bernie appears to fare better among blacks than whites. The opposite of wat I expected.
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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:50 AM

7. Lots of people on this board push the "AA hate Sanders" line, but it's not rooted in fact.

 

Many of the preconceived notions about most of our candidates seem to bypass fact entirely on the way to proving someone's confirmation bias. That's not just Sanders, it applies to all of them. It's important to keep that in mind.
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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:58 AM

8. Memes work to a degree.

 

If they are all you are exposed to, you tend to believe. The real world is much different than the Bernie Bro meme.
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Response to ancianita (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:01 AM

9. A slightly more recent poll for your consideration.

 

https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Political-Intelligence-3.5.19.pdf

With respect, I'll leave the analysis to you as my ability to format anything on this site is shit at best and catastrophic at worst.

ON EDIT: Also this summary. https://theintercept.com/2019/03/06/bernie-sanders-black-voters-2020/
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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:05 AM

10. I saw that and didn't trust its source, which is owned by DeLoitte. Just sayin'.

 

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Response to ancianita (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:07 AM

11. Are you speaking of the Morning Consult polling or the analysis? I'm not familiar with the name. nt

 

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:09 AM

12. Morning Consult is like DeLoitte, good with numbers. I'm with you; I'll only read their analysis.

 

This shows the poll to be Big Corporate and not journalistic in its goal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Consult
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Response to ancianita (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:15 AM

13. Hm. I'll take what you've said into consideration in the future.

 

I still can't say I know who or what DeLoitte is, or if you think this polling is skewed, but I'll keep a wary eye on posting anything from Morning Consult in the future. It was just the most recent comprehensive polling I was able to find in a short google session.
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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:23 AM

14. Here. DeLoitte is a Big global financial entity.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte
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Response to ancianita (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:25 AM

15. Thank you. Researching now. This may take a while. n/t

 

(As an aside, I don't know why it was so hard to fucking Google 'em. I just couldn't get Google to bring these guys up on my end. )
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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #15)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

16. Hey, no problem! Wikipedia is just one of my go-to's.

 

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:49 AM

17. Thanks this is pretty consistent with the other link. Bernie is a tad stronger among blacks than

 

Whites probably associated with the fact that Bernie also does better with lower income people
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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:56 AM

18. Full disclosure, that poll -may- be suspect.

 

I'm doing ongoing research, but I suggest you take a look at the subthread above just for the sake of transparency. I'd say take the poll with a grain of salt for now, but the fact that it corroborates with the other polling I'm seeing is mildly comforting ATM.
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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 12:03 PM

19. Isn't Morning Consult highly respected?

 

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 12:05 PM

20. I thought so, but I'm seeing pushback elsewhere.

 

Then again, it's all from the historically anti-Sanders crew, so I'd take -that- with a grain of salt as well. Either way, I'm doing my due diligence.
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Response to Dream Girl (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 12:34 PM

21. I voted for him in the Va. Primaries

 

But I'll not support him ever again (YES; he'll grudgingly have my vote if by some miracle he becomes the nominee)... I've got a laundry list of gripes about the way Sanders and his support circle have been acting ever since that '16 primary and none of them have been addressed (some of them have even gotten worse)
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