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applegrove

(118,620 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:11 PM Apr 2019

More Democrats are in talks with Fox News as Bernie Sanders town hall posts huge ratings: reports

More Democrats are in talks with Fox News as Bernie Sanders town hall posts huge ratings: reports

Nearly 2.6 million viewers watched Sanders field questions from Fox News anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum

MATTHEW ROZSA at Salon

https://www.salon.com/2019/04/17/more-democrats-are-in-talks-with-fox-news-as-bernie-sanders-town-hall-posts-huge-ratings-reports/

"SNIP....

In the aftermath of Sanders' appearance, reports have emerged that a number of other Democratic candidates are in talks to appear in Fox News town hall events of their own. These include: South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julián Castro, Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, and Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif.

When the Democratic National Committee announced in March that it would not allow Fox News to host their primary debates, Chairman Tom Perez argued to CNN's Chris Cuomo that "we wanted to maximize the number of people who see our candidates, because I think what we are fighting for commands the respect and support of the majority of the American people. Fighting for health care, fighting for all of those really important issues that every American wants to make sure is part of their live. And so I reached out to all of the networks to make sure we could maximize eyeballs, including Fox News."

He added, "Our second goal, though, is to make sure that every debate that takes place, that I have 100 percent assurance that everybody is treated fairly. And I have respect for a number of folks on the news side over at Fox News — I was just on Chris Wallace a couple of weeks ago, if invited I'll go back again, he's very respected — and I have nothing but respect for him. At the same time, though, Chris Wallace isn't my concern. You see that, at the highest levels of Fox News, they have infiltrated the news side."

Sanders' Fox News town hall included a number of memorable moments, including an unexpected response when Baier asked members of the audience whether they would support "Medicare for All." After a majority indicated they would, Sanders pointed out that "what probably every mayor in America does is you look around for the best insurance program, the most cost-effective insurance. You change insurance. Every year, millions of workers wake up in the morning, and their employer has changed the insurance that they have. Maybe they liked the doctors. Some people are nodding their heads. OK. So this is not new – every year. Now what we’re talking about actually is stability – that when you have a ‘Medicare for All,’ it is there now and will be there in the future."


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More Democrats are in talks with Fox News as Bernie Sanders town hall posts huge ratings: reports (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2019 OP
It is free publicity, but at what cost? nt at140 Apr 2019 #1
Well Bernie gave voice to fox audience needs as humans. We've got to wake applegrove Apr 2019 #3
And it seems everyone forgets that many "fox viewers" are Dems & Independents. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #10
I've never met a Dem in all my life who actually watches Fox News Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #29
have many faux state news monitors are neilsen households? pstokely Apr 2019 #31
I don't object to what Bernie did Trenzalore Apr 2019 #22
And i think the same hosts would host a debate, along with Chris Wallace oldsoftie Apr 2019 #35
Fox News has done nothing but fuck us for 20 years Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #25
"lily white crowds full of racists"? You obviously didnt watch his townhall oldsoftie Apr 2019 #36
Can't blame 'em for playing "follow the leader" when it comes to Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #2
+1 denverbill Apr 2019 #4
Yep. This should be good. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #8
Yeah I'm waiting for the Mayor Pete bashing to begin workinclasszero Apr 2019 #11
Reaching those "Fox loving, Trump humping" viewers will now be the right thing to do. Autumn Apr 2019 #13
Course not... nor should Bernie have been bashed for it... but, that's the "Bernie Standard" for ya! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #15
Bernie leads the way workinclasszero Apr 2019 #12
It's amazing those who refuse to recognize Bernie's leadership... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #16
Yup. Brings to mind this quote... workinclasszero Apr 2019 #18
YES... perfect description of what's going on with Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #19
So why aren't all the Dems tripping over themselves to book a speech Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #34
Hardly... But keep telling yourself that this is anything other than Fool's Gold Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #30
So if she accepts you'll think LESS of her?? I'm sure she'll get a offer; apparently its open to all oldsoftie Apr 2019 #37
Or they'll look fuckin' SMART by comparison Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #39
It *will* be fun to watch. SMC22307 Apr 2019 #14
Good on Bernie Jake Stern Apr 2019 #20
Yes... I would expect Joe to smartly do the same thing. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #21
You do of course realize that Fox viewers only love St. Bern Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #26
Add Amy Klobuchar to that list as well - I think this is an excellent move for all involved. bullwinkle428 Apr 2019 #5
It sure is... props to Mayor Pete and Amy!! Smart moves!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #17
I'm not so sure -- though Fox News miscalulated rocktivity Apr 2019 #6
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #7
My pleasure Uncle Joe. applegrove Apr 2019 #9
Fox was as fair as Fox can be Trenzalore Apr 2019 #23
None of them should do it. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #24
They should all do it. greymattermom Apr 2019 #27
We aren't going to win over all of them. nycbos Apr 2019 #28
I won't watch FOX news no matter who goes on. katmondoo Apr 2019 #32
i have no problem with them going on Faux news..we have nothing to hide. samnsara Apr 2019 #33
lol Go Vols Apr 2019 #38
 

at140

(6,110 posts)
1. It is free publicity, but at what cost? nt
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:13 PM
Apr 2019
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applegrove

(118,620 posts)
3. Well Bernie gave voice to fox audience needs as humans. We've got to wake
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:17 PM
Apr 2019

some of them.

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oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
10. And it seems everyone forgets that many "fox viewers" are Dems & Independents.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:48 PM
Apr 2019

Its not like its GOP-TV. Surveys consistently show their audience is varied.

Perez will likely regret his decision on the debates. It makes the Dems look weak, but Bernie just laid down the gauntlet for the rest of the pack.

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
29. I've never met a Dem in all my life who actually watches Fox News
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:48 AM
Apr 2019

They more like 'monitor' it...

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pstokely

(10,525 posts)
31. have many faux state news monitors are neilsen households?
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:00 AM
Apr 2019

?

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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
22. I don't object to what Bernie did
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:21 PM
Apr 2019

I'm also not foolish enough to believe he won hearts and minds by entering the dragon's lair.

As this took place in my hometown I will say the way Fox conducted the town hall was fair. I have a married couple friends that are very big Bernie supporters. They were able to get tickets and the wife got to ask a question.

If they are going to conduct themselves the same way with the other town halls I don't object to any candidate doing them and if they continue to behave this way the debate position should be reconsidered.

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oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
35. And i think the same hosts would host a debate, along with Chris Wallace
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:56 PM
Apr 2019

Not sure, but Baier is their nightly news guy & i've seen MacCallum be fair with many people.
These folks arent hannity

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
25. Fox News has done nothing but fuck us for 20 years
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:42 AM
Apr 2019

Forgive me if I don't think handing them a free ratings boost and legitimizing their nuttiness is a good thing.

Not that we need their votes, but there's better ways to reach out to the MAGA yokels than this. Y'all may get all the warm fuzzies inside thinking that Sanders is somehow winning over these lily-white crowds full of racists, but I'll remain more skeptical...r

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oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
36. "lily white crowds full of racists"? You obviously didnt watch his townhall
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:58 PM
Apr 2019

Unless those "racists" were cheering for him as a trick.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
2. Can't blame 'em for playing "follow the leader" when it comes to Bernie!!
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:16 PM
Apr 2019

After all the Bernie bashing for his appearing on Fux, it'll be fun to watch all the new-found rationalization for it now being a "brilliant idea!" when it comes to OTHER candidates.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
8. Yep. This should be good.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:38 PM
Apr 2019
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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. Yeah I'm waiting for the Mayor Pete bashing to begin
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:11 PM
Apr 2019

Somehow I don't think it will be coming.

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Autumn

(45,056 posts)
13. Reaching those "Fox loving, Trump humping" viewers will now be the right thing to do.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:15 PM
Apr 2019
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
15. Course not... nor should Bernie have been bashed for it... but, that's the "Bernie Standard" for ya!
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:22 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. Bernie leads the way
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:12 PM
Apr 2019

like always!

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
16. It's amazing those who refuse to recognize Bernie's leadership...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:25 PM
Apr 2019

whether you agree or disagree with him on some issues.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. Yup. Brings to mind this quote...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:36 PM
Apr 2019
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.


Mahatma Gandhi
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
19. YES... perfect description of what's going on with Bernie!!
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:39 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
34. So why aren't all the Dems tripping over themselves to book a speech
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:16 AM
Apr 2019

for those knuckle-draggers at Liberty University?

I mean, since Sanders is such a political genius and all...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
30. Hardly... But keep telling yourself that this is anything other than Fool's Gold
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:58 AM
Apr 2019

Thank God that someone like Kamala would never do something this short-sighted... Not that Fox would give a primetime slot to a nonwhite woman candidate anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
37. So if she accepts you'll think LESS of her?? I'm sure she'll get a offer; apparently its open to all
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:03 PM
Apr 2019

I think Budeigeig is the next one who will say yes.
And if everyone takes them up on it, those who refuse will look scared.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
39. Or they'll look fuckin' SMART by comparison
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:44 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:57 AM - Edit history (1)

And polls aside I remain unconvinced that when the rubber meets the road that any significant number of these red state bumpkins will vote for Sanders which makes me wonder why he's even going through all this trouble...

Meanwhile, I'll just leave this here:


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SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
14. It *will* be fun to watch.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:19 PM
Apr 2019

B..b..but!

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Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
20. Good on Bernie
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:46 PM
Apr 2019

for his taking the message to the other side instead of demanding the other side come to the message.

Certainly, a bold move that apparently paid enough dividends to get his rivals to take notice and want to get some of that.



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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
21. Yes... I would expect Joe to smartly do the same thing.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:48 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Undecided
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
26. You do of course realize that Fox viewers only love St. Bern
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:45 AM
Apr 2019

so he can play spoiler and splinter the Dem turnout again, right?? Fox loved him back in '16 too...

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bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
5. Add Amy Klobuchar to that list as well - I think this is an excellent move for all involved.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:20 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
17. It sure is... props to Mayor Pete and Amy!! Smart moves!!
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:26 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
6. I'm not so sure -- though Fox News miscalulated
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:32 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie "survived" because he wasn't there to recite the Democratic party line. The more "democratic" Democratic candidates may not be so lucky -- they may end up in the bloodbath that Bernie was supposed to.


rocktivity

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Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
7. Kicked and recommended.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:37 PM
Apr 2019

Thanks for the thread applegrove.

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applegrove

(118,620 posts)
9. My pleasure Uncle Joe.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:43 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
23. Fox was as fair as Fox can be
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:26 PM
Apr 2019

I know several people that attended the event. I didn't watch it because I won't watch that channel but they were on Facebook defending Foxnews against the President's attacks today. They are huge Bernie backers. If they think it was fair I'll have to say more candidates should do it.

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
24. None of them should do it.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:06 AM
Apr 2019

Very disappointing.

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greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
27. They should all do it.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:45 AM
Apr 2019

And dominate Fox news for awhile. The candidates can ask the audience if they support medicare for all, taxing the rich, and a few other spot on questions.

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nycbos

(6,034 posts)
28. We aren't going to win over all of them.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:46 AM
Apr 2019

But if we can puncture the bubble to where 3 or 4 percent of them see how how they have been conned that can swing the election our way.

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katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
32. I won't watch FOX news no matter who goes on.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:00 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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samnsara

(17,616 posts)
33. i have no problem with them going on Faux news..we have nothing to hide.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:06 AM
Apr 2019

..let the deplorables know there is a life outside the faux news bubble..

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