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MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:13 PM Apr 2019

So, Do You Sort of Remember Some Dirt about a Democratic Candidate?

Why not just post it here? It doesn't matter if it's true or not. Just post it and ask if anyone else is "concerned" about it.

It's a great primary strategy, for sure. If you can find some supposed dirt on a candidate you don't support, by all means post it right away in your "concern." That way, the Republicans will be able to find it easily once we have a Democratic nominee.

It's a great way to help out the Republicans, don't you think?

So, dig deeply and post whatever nastiness you can find about any candidate you don't care for. You needn't fact check it or post links to support the claim. Those don't matter. Just get it out there to hurt someone you don't support for the nomination.

What a great idea, eh?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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So, Do You Sort of Remember Some Dirt about a Democratic Candidate? (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2019 OP
Things that make you go hmm. . . ucrdem Apr 2019 #1
It's odd, too, to look to see who a person who does that MineralMan Apr 2019 #3
Could be completely innocent of course ucrdem Apr 2019 #11
Could be, yes... MineralMan Apr 2019 #12
Then again ucrdem Apr 2019 #13
I had forgotten that. I will remember that now as well as this most recent. Tipperary Apr 2019 #48
Let me tell you right now that I support murielm99 Apr 2019 #24
OK, and I support Joe Biden. MineralMan Apr 2019 #26
Odd, I had a very similar thought this morning MH1 Apr 2019 #2
Great Minds Think Alike, I Guess. MineralMan Apr 2019 #4
Isn't that kind of like being one of those critters that turn up in Scandinavian folk tales? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #5
But say, do you think the Republicans will use Bernie's youthful writings MineralMan Apr 2019 #6
How youthful? murielm99 Apr 2019 #25
Isn't that the expression people use for everything that happens MineralMan Apr 2019 #27
Some of them use it for things that happen up to, let's say, murielm99 Apr 2019 #28
When you're 73 years old, forty seems pretty damned youthful. MineralMan Apr 2019 #31
Tell that to someone whose murielm99 Apr 2019 #33
Ah...yes... MineralMan Apr 2019 #34
Unless you're a white man mcar Apr 2019 #45
The poster you are referring to has been here many years and is not a troll. femmedem Apr 2019 #15
I'm not suggesting any particular person is a troll, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #16
I'm glad to hear that. It's clear to me from the rest of the thread femmedem Apr 2019 #17
I took that thread as simply as an error, which apparently has been corrected. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #19
Some recent posts seem to indicate those amongst us, so you may have a point. Tipperary Apr 2019 #44
K and r. cwydro Apr 2019 #7
Concern trolling. Yes, we must all avoid that. PatrickforO Apr 2019 #8
How much do you think we'll pay if we don't have a green new deal is Merlot Apr 2019 #9
Indeed. We HAVE to address this. PatrickforO Apr 2019 #14
Obviously you're not listening when they explain capitalism. plimsoll Apr 2019 #22
You're right, I'm not listening. Merlot Apr 2019 #35
How much will we pay - how about our future survival as a species. c-rational Apr 2019 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #10
Age Is Fairly Easily Verifiable! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #18
Ya, it can be linked under bigotry: louis c Apr 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #21
The repubs have already tried to paint Bernie as a registered Bolshevik because he went to Karadeniz Apr 2019 #23
We have enough lies and dirt thrown at us by the Republicans, we don't have to air it here too. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #29
Well, now that we know Bobby Kennedy murdered Marilyn Monroe RVN VET71 Apr 2019 #30
Or just make something up radical noodle Apr 2019 #32
Love your posts MineralMan. Power 2 the People Apr 2019 #36
You're too kind... MineralMan Apr 2019 #38
Oh, there has been a bunch of concern trolling on DU, if you don't have anything nice to say yaesu Apr 2019 #37
Can't give it up, huh MM? Aw, gee... CTyankee Apr 2019 #39
Sure she is. Tipperary Apr 2019 #41
And you can prove that how? CTyankee Apr 2019 #42
You have proven it yourself. Tipperary Apr 2019 #46
We shall see, Tip... CTyankee Apr 2019 #47
I'm not fooled, are you? mcar Apr 2019 #43
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
1. Things that make you go hmm. . .
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:16 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
3. It's odd, too, to look to see who a person who does that
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 PM
Apr 2019

supports now and who that person supported earlier. That's often informative, I think. Sometimes, one can even remember details like that from the past.

But, hey, all's far in primary races, right. Any dirt is good dirt, true or false, I suppose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
11. Could be completely innocent of course
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 PM
Apr 2019

but since the error has been repeatedly brought to the poster's attention, a self-delete is in order, and the sooner the better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
12. Could be, yes...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:41 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
13. Then again
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:46 PM
Apr 2019

this one also had high praise for the recent Chappaquiddick movie and posted several threads encouraging DU members to consider it. And was warned in every one of them that he or she was pushing RW disinfo. I guess it didn't sink in?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
48. I had forgotten that. I will remember that now as well as this most recent.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 07:26 AM
Apr 2019

The most recent will be unforgettable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

murielm99

(30,656 posts)
24. Let me tell you right now that I support
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:34 PM
Apr 2019

Mayor Pete. I could change my mind. It is still early.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
26. OK, and I support Joe Biden.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:37 PM
Apr 2019

That's obvious from the photo at the bottom of this post. I could change my mind, too. Early in 2016, and in 2015, I supported Bernie Sanders, but switched to Hillary before the primary election date. Why? Because I did. I can't remember the exact reasons, but I decided that Hillary would have a better chance to win. As it turned out, she didn't win enough electoral votes, although she won the popular vote.

This year, I'm looking at who I think can win the states Hillary lost in 2016 by narrow margins. I'm a pragmatist, to be quite frank. I just want a Democrat in the White House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MH1

(17,537 posts)
2. Odd, I had a very similar thought this morning
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:17 PM
Apr 2019

for some reason.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
4. Great Minds Think Alike, I Guess.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
5. Isn't that kind of like being one of those critters that turn up in Scandinavian folk tales?
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 PM
Apr 2019

You know, the ones that live under bridges and eat billy goats... can't think what they're called.... Not that anyone here would behave like one of those beasts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
6. But say, do you think the Republicans will use Bernie's youthful writings
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:22 PM
Apr 2019

against him? Surely not, eh?. But, hey, a guy could be concerned about that, too, I suppose. Amemba those? Sometimes, I despair about how poor we are at seeing how things work and how they could work...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,656 posts)
25. How youthful?
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:35 PM
Apr 2019

We stop being adolescents after age twenty-three. Anything after that age is not youthful.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
27. Isn't that the expression people use for everything that happens
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:38 PM
Apr 2019

before age 40?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,656 posts)
28. Some of them use it for things that happen up to, let's say,
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:40 PM
Apr 2019

age seventy.

I'm not buying it. Forty is not youthful.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
31. When you're 73 years old, forty seems pretty damned youthful.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:42 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,656 posts)
33. Tell that to someone whose
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:47 PM
Apr 2019

forty-year-old son is living in the basement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
34. Ah...yes...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:49 PM
Apr 2019

What's weird is that when I graduated from high school, I could not wait to move out and move somewhere else. I would never have considered moving back into my parents house in my home town.

At one point, I lived in a little room behind a gas station where I worked part time. There was no way I was going to go home again to live. So, I never did.

I don't get the current trend at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,210 posts)
45. Unless you're a white man
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:12 PM
Apr 2019

Seems like they get a pass for much longer. I've seen article with Beto and Mayor Pete (who I like, BTW) referred to by their youth. In the meantime, 12 YO Tamir Rice was murdered for holding a toy gun, in part because he "looked" older.

So, so tired of the double standards in this country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

femmedem

(8,188 posts)
15. The poster you are referring to has been here many years and is not a troll.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:57 PM
Apr 2019

It's one thing to complain about the tactics or content of a post, it's something else entirely to insinuate this--i.e., to negatively call-out or ascribe an ugly ulterior motive to her. She's beloved to many of us here for her art history essays, her openness about health challenges and her political posts (although not this one.)

I hope you'll delete this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
16. I'm not suggesting any particular person is a troll,
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:33 PM
Apr 2019

and I wasn't aware that the OP was suggesting that either, or why he would be - or even why you think either he or I thought that. I took the OP simply as a warning to watch out for such critters. If the person you are referring to is the one I think you are, of course she isn't, and I'm not aware of anything she's posted that would suggest otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

femmedem

(8,188 posts)
17. I'm glad to hear that. It's clear to me from the rest of the thread
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:45 PM
Apr 2019

that some of the other posters are referring to a particular OP about Biden.
Please accept my apology. I got hot under the collar seeing her attacked here and in her thread.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
19. I took that thread as simply as an error, which apparently has been corrected.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:59 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
44. Some recent posts seem to indicate those amongst us, so you may have a point.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:10 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatrickforO

(14,516 posts)
8. Concern trolling. Yes, we must all avoid that.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:32 PM
Apr 2019

Though I'm sure it has happened more often, the situation with concern trolling I remember from here was a post written by someone who asked if parents should not be concerned about which bathrooms transgender students are using at their kids' school. That sure bubbled up.

One thing I've noticed, and kudos to all on here, is there are fewer situations where we are doing that to each other's candidates. It just does not feel nearly as divisive to me now as it did during the primary season leading up to the horror of 2016.

Maybe people realize how very much is at stake now.

Every one of our candidates has the proverbial 'elephant in the living room' though. Not a one is perfect, or perfectly electable. To me, our mission will be, as the field narrows into 2020, to figure out counterpoints to the right-wing talking points against those still standing, against Democrats in general and against our policies.

Many on here are thought leaders in their respective communities, and if we talk about how to counter these right-wing attacks together, it will reverse many of them.

I've got one: Whenever a Republican says, "Well how are we going to PAY for a green new deal? Har, har, har," we can counter with, "How did we pay for WWII? The situation was forced on us and we did what we had to do. It is the same with climate change. We must address it now."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
9. How much do you think we'll pay if we don't have a green new deal is
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:38 PM
Apr 2019

the question I ask of those that are "concerned" about the cost of clean energy but not at all concerned about the costs of oil.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatrickforO

(14,516 posts)
14. Indeed. We HAVE to address this.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 12:56 PM
Apr 2019

There's no question.

Do you remember when Turtle had that sham vote in the Senate about the Green New Deal, and the Dems all decided to vote 'present?'

Remember what Mitch told his 'team?' He said, "A vote of 'present' is a vote against jobs!"

That's just a LIE and we need to counter it EVERY TIME we see it. A green new deal would create hundreds of thousands of jobs, we would not all of a sudden stop using oil and gas, so those people wouldn't be laid off right away, and so on. We can't just let them lie and not challenge it line by line.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

plimsoll

(1,664 posts)
22. Obviously you're not listening when they explain capitalism.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:10 PM
Apr 2019

There are no costs from using oil. Ever.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
35. You're right, I'm not listening.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:50 PM
Apr 2019

Not listening to any climate change denials, and definatly not listening to any pro-oil arguments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

c-rational

(2,581 posts)
40. How much will we pay - how about our future survival as a species.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 03:09 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
18. Age Is Fairly Easily Verifiable!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 01:56 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

 

Karadeniz

(22,277 posts)
23. The repubs have already tried to paint Bernie as a registered Bolshevik because he went to
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:21 PM
Apr 2019

Russia on his honeymoon. Nevermind that it was a prescheduled conference and there were maybe nine in the group.

Excellent post!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vsrazdem

(2,176 posts)
29. We have enough lies and dirt thrown at us by the Republicans, we don't have to air it here too.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:41 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RVN VET71

(2,686 posts)
30. Well, now that we know Bobby Kennedy murdered Marilyn Monroe
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:42 PM
Apr 2019

because some 2-bit actor and mob aficionado said so -- and why would such a guy lie? -- maybe it's time to take a close look at any candidate who has ever said anything in praise of Bobby Kennedy. I mean, if you praise a murderer, doesn't that say something about your lack of qualifications for the presidency? Doesn't it mean that you just might possibly have assisted in the murder itself? And if one murder, how many others?

(Hmmm, maybe all candidates should be asked, at the debates, if they thought Bobby Kennedy was a good man even though it's been proven that he obviously murdered at least one person?)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

radical noodle

(7,990 posts)
32. Or just make something up
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:46 PM
Apr 2019

That worked so well the last time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
36. Love your posts MineralMan.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:54 PM
Apr 2019

Can always count on you to look at the big picture.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
37. Oh, there has been a bunch of concern trolling on DU, if you don't have anything nice to say
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 02:55 PM
Apr 2019

about any Democratic candidate running, don't say anything at all. I have even found myself defending a candidate that isn't even on my primary long list just because someone was "concerned". Well, that really pissed them off, too bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
39. Can't give it up, huh MM? Aw, gee...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 03:05 PM
Apr 2019

Well, as you can see my candidate is Kamala Harris. I think she is best suited to be our candidate and I think she can win! Id like to see Mayor Pete as her running mate. He seems to have developed a big following lately. I like him a lot!

Edit to add: That horse is still dead, MM. Sorry...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
41. Sure she is.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:07 PM
Apr 2019

You are fooling nobody.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
42. And you can prove that how?
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:09 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
46. You have proven it yourself.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:14 PM
Apr 2019

Take a look back at the responses you received. Goodness. Famous saying - there are none so blind who cannot see. Another saying - the proof is in the pudding. And boy, there is a heckuva pudding available for all to read.

Well stirred.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
47. We shall see, Tip...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:19 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,210 posts)
43. I'm not fooled, are you?
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:09 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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