Gwyneth Paltrow Is Co-Hosting a Fundraiser for Pete Buttigieg with Bradley Whitford

Buttigieg is clearly going to do well in raising money. Gays are quite used to raising money and giving money toward political causes. If he is still viable when places with large cities (and thus large numbers of openly gay voters) he is going to be able to pick up delegates and better than expected finishes.

She is expressive and have different views on a couple of things. But the woman was a top draw A-list actress and she started up and sustained one or two successful companies. She is anything but a nut.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/7/19/15988180/gwyneth-paltrow-goop-jade-egg-debunkers

She is doing a mini version of Trump University with this crap.

I have known people that believe that enemas improve their health and spirits. Since I never tried it, who knows. On the Jade Egg for vaginas, many medical experts say that the healthiest, freshest vaginas have a slightly acidic environment. Who is to say that sticking a jade egg in there does not cause a woman that runs an alkaline vagina to develope one that has a slightly acidic environment and hence healthier and better smelling according to some experts?

There was a thread that decried supplements posted on DU last week. The replies covered a range, there were those that said any supplement was a waste of money. There were others that said people should consult their doctors, but that some supplements work to prevent or reverse problems. Others were fully on the supplement wagon, recounting how supplements helped them. I know my own doctor prescribed Vitamin D supplements for me during the winter months. I also know that when I have digestive problems due to business stress, I don't run to the hospital, I simply start drinking milk kifir for a couple of days and the problem disappears for months.

So I guess it all depends on what a person's actual experience is. If Paltrow use the stuff she is selling for her own health and wellbeing, who is to say that she doesn't get benefits from using the products?

and she is selling woo. No Jade in your vagina doesn't cure disease. Any more than Trump University was anything but a fraud.

The American Indians didn't have medical degrees, but over time they developed effective medicinals for the issues that they faced, some of which became medicine that we take today.

I am not trying to defend her. I would assume that she has tried the stuff she sells and believes in it. Her company is worth a quarter of a billion dollars, so given that it sells consumer items, I would guess that she gets a lot of repeat customers. Maybe those repeat customers are complete dopes, or maybe they experience something when they use the products, even if the effect is just in their heads, they feel better.

That has been used by con artists for years to justify their con. And please don't compare what she is doing to Native American cures. They were based on centuries of experience using plants that proved their efficacy, with many of those plants having been shown to have ingredients that can be used by modern medicine. We now can test products for their efficacy and if Paltrow really believed this stuff works she would pay for research substantiating those claims. Paltrow is basing her woo on making money off of suckers. Same as dump did with his "university."

I am not defending her, I think that some of her shit is weird, as is stuff done in China like grinding up Rhino horn to keep up a horn. Unless I tried her stuff, I can't say that it doesn't make people feel better, even if it's all just between their ears.

In 2019 we actually have scientific methods to test these things. Just because someone believes something does not mean that belief is valid. The anti-vax crusade for one example.

Religion makes people feel better and actually occasionally does positive things in people's life, so does taking a bath (makes the skin feel yummy for several minutes), or having a refreshing drink. I don't disagree that Paltrow is most likely misleading gullible people, but if those people are happy with the outcome, who am I to lecture them.

Two words:

Vaginal Egg.

If I were a politician I would stay away from her.

She was forced to pay 145k in damages for unsubstantiated health claims back in September

I've long thought Paltrow a nut case. She also considers herself an intellectual which is laughable.

I think that she is different on a couple of things, but the woman is very smart and has been tops in pretty much every endeavor that she took on. She came from wealth but didn't use that to get ahead, she made her own way.

First of all the wealthy don’t make their own way, the way has been made for them. Buts that’s neither here nor there; Paltrow promotes the most ridiculous, absurd, idiotic pseudoscience imaginable to ignorant-ass yoga moms looking for a new trend now that the anti-vaxxer movement is losing its social cache. I’m not going to pretend that a person who claims bras cause cancer and that shoving a hunk of jade into your vagina has positive health benefits is anything but a moron.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gwyneth_Paltrow

She rejected the wealth that she grew up in and left home on her own when she was around 18. She has only recently repaired her relationship with her dad, after she became a parent.

One of the unfortunate things is that some people see value in what you or I would call pseudoscience. I don't know whether the jade egg does what she claims, but I have read that vaginas need a certain acid range to be healthiest. Who is to say that somehow leaching from the jade egg in a vagina doesn't change the ph level there and make a woman feel healthier down there and inside her head?

besides being a possible infection vector.

She sells bullshit, and frankly should have her website shut down because of it, if not fined/jailed for fraud herself.

https://www.health.com/sexual-health/jade-egg-goop

Even if it is all in their heads, they have apparently concluded that the egg work for them. Paltrow has a company that is selling $75-$125 million in product annually, that is not inconsequential. I don't believe that enemas work, but there are people that swear by them and do them regularly.

not everyone's experiences are the same and they are not all equally valid, hence why we need science to help sort fact from bullshit.

Just because a scam is profitable doesn't make it any less of a scam.

But I seldom try to contradict what people say are happening with their bodies. I would prefer that their starting points are their doctors, but is people say that putting a jade egg in their vagina or a solution up their rectum, who am I to call them out? They experienced what happened, I did not.

One of the issues with the antivaxxers, and someone on DU did an excellent post on it, is that the signs of autism show up a little after kids are supposed to get their first Vax shots. So a casual association is made when rigorous scientific inquiry says there is none. But can you look a parent in the face that has an autistic kid and the parent believes that Vax shots caused that autism and call that person foolish? I think that even as a science respecting person, if I had a kid that was autistic, I would wonder about whether the choices that I made were responsible.

to warn them of said scams?

None of this shit is free, after all, and people spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on scam treatments, many times delaying or avoiding effective treatments in the process. Hell, this has literally killed people.

I said that if a person claims that particular non medicinal item brings about a particular result for him or her, I have no grounds for calling that person a liar unless I have direct experience with them as a liar. Now if a third person was going to try the item and asked my opinion, I would say that I don't believe the claimed outcome, but that I have no direct evidence to refute it. The third person would then need to make a decision, respect my reservations or believe the person that makes the claim, it's as simple as that. Hundreds of thousands, or even millions of people are choosing to believe Paltrow and the people making claims along with her.

You made a somewhat outlandish claim that what Paltrow is pushing has killed people like such an outcome is unique to her company. The claim that you made can be made about pretty much anything, a lot of products from cars to medicines are made with an expected mortality level from people using the products, but no one advocate shutting them down, unless the mortality rate is out of line to what a reasonable investigator would expect to see. I would think that if Paltrow's products were harming people at an alarming rate, either due to the stuff being toxic or people delaying effective treatments, I am sure that for the years that he was in office, President Obama's CDC or FDA would have been on her case. I have little confidence in action under Trump.

I pointed out that she made up with him after she became a mom, I don't know when she first became one, but I do remember reading about their reconciliation and the circumstances that brought it about.

I never heard of any animosity between her and her parents. I think you may have her mixed up with someone else. Drew Barrymore perhaps?

I think the issue was her wanting to chose acting instead of college. Small issue, but it seemed big for her and her dad.

Purely coincidence that her film debut was with Director Stephen Spielberg who just happened to be her Godfather. And her TV debut was directed by her father.

Pure coincidence!


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwyneth_Paltrow

And well placed in Hollywood.

She’s never known a day of doubt in her privileged life.

And anyone stupid enough to put a jade egg up their hooha...

The rich are not like us (besides having more money)

...when he died in 2002?

And was acting in the same theatre her mother had for years by age 18. She was in Hook and a movie with Travolta the following year. The idea that she didn't have privilege from wealth or her celebrity parents is pretty laughable to be honest.

I have no tolerance for pseudoscience.

It's a fact and I'm sorry if that makes people uncomfortable but not my problem.

busted
https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/05/gwyneth-paltrows-goop-to-pay-for-making-unsubstantiated-eggs-about-vaginal-jade-eggs/


Among the false claims made by Goop were that the Jade and Rose Quartz egg-shaped stones were capable of balancing hormones, regulating menstrual cycles and increasing bladder control. None of those claims were substantiated.

The company is known for selling bizarre products with hefty price tags, including a $2,400 spirit-animal ring and 18k gold dumbbells priced at $125,000.

The good news is, if you were among the buyers of the falsely advertised Jade Egg, Goop is now willing to refund the full purchase.

Actress-turned-entrepreneur Gwyneth Paltrow has raised $82 million in venture capital funding for Goop to date from NEA, Lightspeed Venture Partners, Felix Capital and others.

As long as they give money it's ok however they earn it right?

I miss that show but I cant watch the reruns anymore. It just reminds me of how awful the situation is now.