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Pete Buttigieg6%

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:55 PM

 

I rather rebuild the Obama coalition with any combination of Biden, Harris, Booker, Pete or Beto.*

We don't have to chase white nationalist votes. They have a home and it's the Republican party.





PEACE



*Throw in Liz... wasn't enough room in the header

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Reply I rather rebuild the Obama coalition with any combination of Biden, Harris, Booker, Pete or Beto.* (Original post)
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 OP
JI7 Apr 2019 #1
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #22
Cha Apr 2019 #2
brer cat Apr 2019 #3
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #4
TeamPooka Apr 2019 #5
jezebel321 Apr 2019 #6
AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #11
SweetieD Apr 2019 #17
TeamPooka Apr 2019 #23
Codeine Apr 2019 #25
TeamPooka Apr 2019 #32
bobbieinok Apr 2019 #7
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #16
Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #8
pnwmom Apr 2019 #9
Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #10
pnwmom Apr 2019 #12
Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #13
pnwmom Apr 2019 #14
Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #37
pnwmom Apr 2019 #38
Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #39
pnwmom Apr 2019 #41
JonLP24 Apr 2019 #43
pnwmom Apr 2019 #45
JonLP24 Apr 2019 #46
pnwmom Apr 2019 #47
Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #49
pnwmom Apr 2019 #51
Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #52
Duppers Apr 2019 #15
better Apr 2019 #36
thesquanderer Apr 2019 #18
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #19
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #21
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #24
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #26
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #27
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #28
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #34
beachbum bob Apr 2019 #29
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #30
beachbum bob Apr 2019 #31
ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #33
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #35
m-lekktor Apr 2019 #40
pnwmom Apr 2019 #42
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2019 #48
Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #44
NewsCenter28 Apr 2019 #50
boomer_wv Apr 2019 #53

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:02 PM

1. agree, those are all great candidates . would be happy to support either one of them

 

even if i prefer certain mores more over others.

but i would add warren also.
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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:33 AM

22. Thank you.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:03 PM

2. Yeah, Build on that!

 

That's real
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:09 PM

3. I agree. nt

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:09 PM

4. Agree.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:28 PM

5. Harris/Buttigieg feels like a winning ticket that builds on the Obama coalition and speaks to a

 

young generation of millennials too.
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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:31 PM

6. I love both Kamala and Pete so I would love that ticket. I wonder who Kamala would

 

choose for VP though.
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Response to jezebel321 (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:43 AM

11. I was not impressed with Harris cnn townhall tbh

 

I think it was the worst performance out of all candidates that night, even tulsi did much better.

I think if Biden is the nominee, he needs to be very strategic about his VP. It must be someone who adds something to the ticket. Perharps Warren who can bring bernicrats to vote for biden.
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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:29 AM

17. Young people aren't reliable voters. You can't rely on that demographic to win.

 

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Response to SweetieD (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:34 AM

23. No but he's a symbolic player as a VP.

 

And older voters also like young and vibrant candidates. Kind of like Bill Clinton when he ran back in the 90s
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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:36 AM

25. That's a promising ticket. nt

 

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Response to Codeine (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:58 AM

32. and it's the exact opposite of Trump. We need to offer voters a distinct difference.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:00 AM

7. You left out WARREN!

 

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Response to bobbieinok (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:21 AM

16. She's included. She even got to be in bold.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:17 AM

8. Did you leave out the first potential Jewish president

 

As an insinuation that he is chasing white nationalist votes? Just curious.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:30 AM

9. Did you hear his response to the question today about how to address

 

the problem of white supremacist violence? He was interviewed at the She: The People conference today.

They were not impressed that his solution to white supremacist violence is a higher minimum wage and Medicare for All.

But if his main goal was not to alienate Trump's white nationalist voters, that answer might make sense.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:34 AM

10. He is Jewish

 

He is not allying with white supremacists. He is trying to give them less of a reason to be white supremacists by giving them the possibility of helping themselves instead of hurting and hating others. Humanity can be healed. But not if we hold on to our hatred of others, regardless of how painful it can be...
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:48 AM

12. The 20-30% of the population that loves authoritarianism and having a scapegoat

 

won't be placated by a $15 minimum wage.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:59 AM

13. it will make pushing for it less of a priority

 

When their kid isnt dead because of a treatable illness, it's less likely they will blame immigrants for it . That goes for being poor and uneducated as well.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:33 AM

14. Bernie did very badly among African American voters in 2016, and his performance

 

on Wednesday suggests he hasn't learned anything from the experience. His one-size-fits-all solution isn't enough.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:45 PM

37. That was 2016. He is already doing much better in 2020

 

And considering 70% of Americans support his policies, he will likely do very well in the general election, as well regardless of any of that, implying Bernie is allying with white supremacists is beyond the pale to me.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:50 PM

38. Where is your evidence that he is doing much better with minority voters?

 

That wasn't on display in the audience reaction to his interview at She: The People.

https://www.theroot.com/bernie-sanders-has-a-black-woman-problem-and-thats-goi-1834302198

Bernie Sanders has a black woman problem.

During an appearance Wednesday at a presidential candidates’ forum sponsored by She the People, a group that looks to push more women of color to the polls, Sanders was booed, heckled and looked a lot like he’d just bought a white women into his pro-black mother’s house, The Washington Post reports.

Sanders gave canned answers and struggled to win over the crowd of informed women, who have not only proven to be the backbone of the Democratic Party but have also proven to continuously show up and show out.

SNIP

This exchange between Sanders and co-host Joy Reid is quite telling:

Separately, co-host Joy Reid asked Sanders how he would win over Hillary Clinton voters, including black women in particular. In response, Sanders trashed Trump as “the most dangerous president” in modern history, and generally called for unity among Democrats as well as “social justice, racial justice, and environmental justice.”

That response immediately drew more hecklers, as Reid pressed, “Yeah, and for black women specifically?”

“I’m sorry?” Sanders asked, as the jeers became louder. “For black women specifically,” Reid reiterated.

Sanders responded: “Black women will be an integral part of what our campaign, and what our administration is about. Okay? And that means —”

The audience erupted with heckling for a few seconds, as Sanders tossed his arm up in the air in dismay and muttered, “Okay.”

“Were you finished with your —,” Allison asked when the crowd quieted.

“Yeah,” Sanders replied.


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Response to pnwmom (Reply #38)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:54 PM

39. Anecdotal evidence is hardly reliable

 

Polling has put him consistently even with Joe Biden at about 30-30 among African Americans. That is 3 times what Harris is polling at btw. https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Political-Intelligence-3.5.19.pdf
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #39)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:57 PM

41. His performance at She: The People is something anyone can watch. If you had,

 

I don't think you'd be defending it.

From the Root:


https://www.theroot.com/bernie-sanders-has-a-black-woman-problem-and-thats-goi-1834302198


This exchange between Sanders and co-host Joy Reid is quite telling:

Separately, co-host Joy Reid asked Sanders how he would win over Hillary Clinton voters, including black women in particular. In response, Sanders trashed Trump as “the most dangerous president” in modern history, and generally called for unity among Democrats as well as “social justice, racial justice, and environmental justice.”

That response immediately drew more hecklers, as Reid pressed, “Yeah, and for black women specifically?”

“I’m sorry?” Sanders asked, as the jeers became louder. “For black women specifically,” Reid reiterated.

Sanders responded: “Black women will be an integral part of what our campaign, and what our administration is about. Okay? And that means —”

The audience erupted with heckling for a few seconds, as Sanders tossed his arm up in the air in dismay and muttered, “Okay.”

“Were you finished with your —,” Allison asked when the crowd quieted.

“Yeah,” Sanders replied.



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Response to pnwmom (Reply #41)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:03 PM

43. Joy Reid has said far more offensive stuff than Bernie saying he marched with Dr. King

 

Plus the crowd wouldn't let him finish his answers and they were harsh on Tulsi too saying "you're one of them" during Tulsi's answer that there are a lot of bad people in the world (some of them are US allies).

I think he will be fine. Black progressives I follow still like him and Sanders answer on felony disenfranchisement received a lot of support while Buttigieg was ripped for coming out in favor of it.
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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #43)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:24 PM

45. You think it's good for Bernie that the crowd reacted to him and TULSI in the same way?

 



This was an audience of smart, educated, involved women. If they responded "harshly" to Bernie, he better figure out what he did wrong.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #45)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:44 PM

46. The felony disenfranchisement debate got more attention

 

Than She the People. It seemed stacked with Bernie haters who also hate Tulsi











It is just a progressive/centrist ideology divide. I see conversations turn out like this a lot from people who seem to not realize there are WOC progressives.
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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:54 PM

47. There are MILLIONS of WOC progressives. And the vast majority voted for Hillary,

 

the progressive who listened to them and addressed their concerns.

She didn't just spout off one-size-fits-all bromides.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #47)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:13 PM

49. We are not in 2016. It is a different election.

 

Which can expect very different results. Like, for instance, Bernie doing much better among African Americans, according to the same polls that say Joe Biden is leading the primaries.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #49)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:18 PM

51. There's no reason to think the millions of African Americans who decisively chose Hillary

 

over Bernie will decide on Bernie over one of the other many qualified candidates.

We will know a lot more after the Southern primary. That will matter more than any poll.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #51)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:01 PM

52. Actually we will likely have a good idea after SC.

 

It is still very early, and no conclusions can be made at this point except for what we see in the polls and a lot can change!
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:20 AM

15. Well played.

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:52 AM

36. Respectfully, I think you're looking at this wrong.

 

They already have the possibility of helping themselves instead of hurting and hating others. They choose incorrectly.

The correct response to shitbags being shitbags is not to try to make it easier for them to not be shitbags, it's to make it harder for them to be. And that means addressing head-on the fact that they are, demonstrably, shitbags, and making clear that we as a society demand better of people, no matter the struggles they face.

I'm all for a livable minimum wage and universal healthcare, but the problems they solve are quite simply not the underlying cause of white supremacy. They're excuses for it.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:15 AM

18. None of our candidates are chasing white nationalist votes. Why single out those six? (n/t)

 

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:19 AM

19. The candidates I listed are my favorites and imho the rightful heirs to Barack Obama.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:22 AM

20. Mine too.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:23 AM

21. It seems some posters want to tell us who are favorites should be.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:36 AM

24. Yes, but we get to choose for ourselves

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:37 AM

26. Thank Goodness

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:39 AM

27. Right lets keep it that way..dump Trump.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #27)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:43 AM

28. Biden-Harris has a nice ring.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:18 AM

34. It does have a nice ring.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:44 AM

29. my prediciton is Biden/Harris

 

and a sure electoral landslide as Joe will bring back white working americans to democrats
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #29)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:45 AM

30. I don't want to get overconfident.

 

I learned my lesson.
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:48 AM

31. The only elections I have been over confident was 2008 and 2012 and I had good reasons, same

 

as now.

It will take all us to do the work as always and not be splintered again like 2016. We have the task of saving our country
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:12 AM

33. It does.......

 

Kamala Harris would make a very good VP who would work to bring back the integrity , respect, of Americans and the rest of the world. The world knows who Biden is, how he treats people, works well with others. Kamala Harris will solidify that.
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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #33)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:50 AM

35. If Biden wrests the nomination I would bet the house he picks KH as his veep.

 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:55 PM

40. Yeah, because status-quo centrism did sooo well in 2016.

 

smh
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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #40)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:01 PM

42. Hillary isn't a centrist. She ran on a very progressive platform and won the popular vote by 2.9 mil

 

after beating Bernie by 4 million.

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #40)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:11 PM

48. President Obama

 

President Obama was the first Democrat to win two consecutive popular vote victories since FDR.


"smh."
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:20 PM

44. Strategically, he will probably need to pick someone from the south or midwest.

 

Can't have two nor'easterners on the same ticket, probably. It wouldn't do much good to have CA on the ticket. CA is already going to vote Democratic, and it looks like the two coasts, both Democratic, are running. That leaves the middle and south out of thinking their interests will be served.

JFK (MA) chose LBJ (TX). Northeast-south/southwest
Bill Clinton (Arkansas) chose Gore (TN) (I remember this was an issue...2 southerners; but one was in the middle & the other east)
Jimmy Carter (GA) chose Mondale (MN) south-midwest
Obama (IL) chose Biden (DE) midwest-northeast
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:16 PM

50. Right on bro!

 

We share similar thoughts here!
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:31 AM

53. Doesn't have to be a ticket with another primary candidate...

 

If I were Biden and won the nomination I'd have Ayanna Pressley near the top of my list.
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