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Elizabeth Warren22%
Joe Biden14%
Bernie Sanders8%
Pete Buttigieg6%

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:49 AM

 

Biden Takes Lead at DU...

...Harris second.

Wow: That's been my dream ticket for 6 months. Thanks DU.

Biden-Harris 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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louis c Apr 2019 OP
George II Apr 2019 #1
DownriverDem Apr 2019 #45
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #2
DonaldsRump Apr 2019 #3
beachbum bob Apr 2019 #4
BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #33
beachbum bob Apr 2019 #34
colorado_ufo Apr 2019 #42
pangaia Apr 2019 #50
Kaleva Apr 2019 #60
LanternWaste Apr 2019 #68
colorado_ufo Apr 2019 #71
snort Apr 2019 #43
DonaldsRump Apr 2019 #80
calimary Apr 2019 #5
highplainsdem Apr 2019 #6
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #7
BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #13
George II Apr 2019 #31
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #37
George II Apr 2019 #38
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #41
ehrnst Apr 2019 #44
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #47
ehrnst Apr 2019 #48
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #52
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InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #79
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George II Apr 2019 #116
ehrnst Apr 2019 #119
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:51 AM

1. Not surprising, I guess lots of "undecided" people (like me) were waiting for today.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:10 PM

45. Glad you came over now

 

Biden/Harris would be a great ticket!
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:52 AM

2. That is a good ticket.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:54 AM

3. Agreed. Would win in a landslide. n/t

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:54 AM

4. in the end, I see a Biden/Harris ticket a sure fire winner Nov 2020

 

I first start talking about that among my friends a few months ago and now they tell it sounds better and better.. We have to bring white working class voters back to democrats, that is a MUST. That alone can make GOP a minority party for a few decades. We may need that long to fix what 2 years of trump as wreaked upon our country
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:15 PM

33. I suggested that combo to my family of Dems last Sept.

 

Three generations, male and female and none of them thought of this before but after considering it they all approved.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #33)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:16 PM

34. makes sense from several different political narratives.

 

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:00 PM

42. I wish I could warm up to Harris.

 

I love her presence, which is extremely commanding every time she walks into a room. But I never really hear anything solid when she speaks. I am very tired of hearing her say that she wants to have a conversation about something. After the conversation, then what? Then will she propose something? Will she refer the matter to Congress? Will she form some sort of committee to further investigate and have even more conversations? I want to hear something solid in the way of policy. I do love the way Elizabeth Warren comes up with actual answers and has the courage to state her positions and not hedge on the questions.
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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #42)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:41 PM

50. Any time I hear someone say,"Let's have a conversation," I throw up and then leave.

 

One would think SOMEBODY would have the brilliant creativity to at LEAST start saying, "Have a discussion."


Same with "reach out" to someone.

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #42)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:19 PM

60. Kamala has solid ideas on gun control, student debt, health care, women's choice and other issues

 

https://www.glamour.com/story/kamala-harris-issues

Another good site:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Kamala_Harris.htm

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #42)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:54 PM

68. I think you do not hear because you do not listen.

 

"I never really hear anything solid when she speaks..."

I think you do not hear because you do not listen, and hear only that which you wish to; otherwise, you would have heard/read/observed her substantive policy positions.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #68)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:10 PM

71. As a working person

 

I am not able to catch every interview, every town hall, etc. Perhaps I missed what I was hoping to hear.

To claim that I "do not listen" is unfair and insulting, especially since you do not know me at all. The post above yours gave useful links instead of ad hominem attacks.

Let's get back to issues.
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:01 PM

43. I was thinking Harris/Buttigieg,

 

but I will take it! Go Dems!
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Response to snort (Reply #43)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:59 PM

80. I really like Pete B.

 

He needs some experience at the state or national level, and he will be a truly formidable candidate. And I'm talking about just a few years.
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:55 AM

5. That's not a bad ticket. Not a bad ticket at all! Biden/Harris.

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:57 AM

6. I agree. Biden-Harris would be a great ticket.

 

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:59 AM

7. Congrats on that... let's see how long that lasts. My guess... not very.

 

Wish Joe luck though... perhaps, the third time's the charm.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:09 PM

31. Joe Biden has never lost a single primary.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:38 PM

37. Really?! That's news to me!! In what alternative Universe...

 

has "Joe Biden... never lost a single primary"?! What happened the last two times Joe ran in the Democratic Party primary for President?! Did I miss his last two victories over Dukakis and Obama?!


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

38. Well then, which primaries has he lost in his last two campaigns for President?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #38)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:50 PM

41. I named them... but, if you want to play word games, feel free!!

 


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #41)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:07 PM

44. Yet again, you seem to have imagined that you posted something, when you didn't. (nt)

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #44)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:16 PM

47. Sorry, wrong AGAIN! It's right there in plain english, which surely you comprehend. Yes??

 

Quick!! Change the subject!!


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #47)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:19 PM

48. Where is it? Show us how wrong we are? (nt)

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #48)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:52 PM

52. LOL...it's called ENGLISH!! I said "it's right THERE," the conversation to which you 1st responded!

 

Yet you're still pretending I didn't say what I said and asking "Where is it"? I know you think it's amusing to ignore what I said... so, go ahead, keep up the shtick, or better yet, change the subject.

But, if you ever want to have a serious conversation, I'm happy to discuss the results of Joe's two Democratic primary losses I've identified. Of course, you don't, so we won't. That's perfectly fine with me!!


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #52)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:58 PM

54. Not seeing it. Can you link to it? Copy and paste? This is your big chance...

 

No?

Thought so.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #54)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:28 PM

63. You serious?!?! Can SOMEONE, anyone, help erhrnst out?! I can't seem to get through...

 

I've given up!!


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #63)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:37 PM

65. Got nothing. Thought so.

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #65)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:00 PM

70. Got plenty...you just have to READ english. But, I don't care if you seriously didn't know about

 

the two primary elections I identified that Joe lost. Not everybody is politically active, so I forgive you for not knowing about those two primary losses.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #70)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:42 PM

73. STILL can't show where you posted this. You had your chance to prove us all wrong,

 

and you can't.

I call your bluff. You imagined doing this.

You fold?

Thought so.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #73)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:59 PM

79. Can ANYONE get thru to ehrnst? I tried splainin in plain english the two primaries Joe Biden lost...

 

ehrnst pretends that didn't happen. Any help you can give would be appreciated.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #79)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:02 PM

81. Still can't locate the posts you claim you wrote?

 





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Response to ehrnst (Reply #81)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:33 PM

116. Got kind of quiet around here, maybe some more music?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #116)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 05:44 AM

119. ......

 

LOVE that one!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #41)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:53 PM

53. This is getting to be a routine here, I should put it in my signature:

 

"No you didn't".

And no, I won't go your "in what universe....." thing.

You didn't, and he didn't.
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Response to George II (Reply #53)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:05 PM

56. Then just admit I showed you why you were wrong... problem solved!!

 

It's not like it's a big deal to admit Joe lost the two presidential primaries I identified above and, therefore, you mistakenly claimed "Joe Biden has never lost a primary."

Or, don't admit your mistake... I really don't care!


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #56)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:30 PM

72. I will when you do, but you haven't so I won't (hmm, sounds like a Sheldon Cooperism)

 

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Response to George II (Reply #72)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:49 PM

74. LMFAO!! Just read my FIRST response to your post incorrrctly claiming

 

"Joe Biden has never lost a single primary." If you won't read my response identifying the two primaries Joe lost, I can't help you.

Just admit again that you were wrong and move on... there's no shame in it. Wouldn't that be a lot easier than to keep pretending you don't know that Joe lost two primary elections?! It's not like you're fooling anybody.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #74)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:54 PM

77. LMFAO!! You can't even find that post, but you keep on trashing other posters

 

for not "admitting they are WRONG" when they ask you for the location of this alleged retort.

Just admit again that you were wrong and move on... there's no shame in it. It's not like you're fooling anybody.

Argument by Dismissal:
An argument is rejected without saying why. The person who is rejecting the argument may have a good reason; they just refuse to share it. So we cannot assume that this is an error in reasoning. It could better be described as a conscious choice not to participate in the argument.


BOOM!



May I suggest the "ignore" feature which helps many to avoid being tempted to embarass themselves repeatedly?



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Response to ehrnst (Reply #77)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:10 PM

83. I identified the post quite clearly, but you still keep pretending Joe never lost a primary.

 

But then, perhaps, you're not all that politically active, or too young, to know that Joe previously lost in two presidential primaries. There's no shame in not knowing that... no need to be embarrassed.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #83)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:13 PM

84. Where? A link to these alleged posts would totally validate your claims.

 

Yet none is forthcoming.

I guess, once again, it's been proven one can't link to one's...





But do continue. I love finding these songs.



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Response to ehrnst (Reply #84)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:22 PM

89. Perhaps, someone else who can interpret your "non-speak" dismissals can help

 

educate you on the two presidential primaries Joe lost. I've tried several times, unsuccessfully... oh well, it's not like I really care whether you know this or not.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #83)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:30 PM

93. No you didn't.

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #74)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:19 PM

86. I read what you wrote, but Biden didn't lose any primary elections. EVER.

 

Seems like you're the one pretending. So tell us, in which states did Biden lose primary elections in either of those two years, do you know? C'mon, you can do it, if it really happened. Otherwise, as you say, "you're not fooling anybody".

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Response to George II (Reply #86)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:24 PM

91. I know, right?

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #74)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:29 PM

92. Fallacy: Argument by Denial

 

An argument is rejected without saying why. The person who is rejecting the argument may have a good reason; they just refuse to share it. So we cannot assume that this is an error in reasoning. It could better be described as a conscious choice not to participate in the argument.

But you still keep on posting.



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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #56)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:56 PM

78. Argument by Dismissal:

 

An argument is rejected without saying why. The person who is rejecting the argument may have a good reason; they just refuse to share it. So we cannot assume that this is an error in reasoning. It could better be described as a conscious choice not to participate in the argument.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #78)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:17 PM

85. Ironically, your non-assumption is the error in your dismissal argument!!

 


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #85)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:19 PM

87. Still no evidence of these alleged posts?

 

This is becoming a pattern!




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Response to ehrnst (Reply #87)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:33 PM

94. LOL, it's ONLY in my 1st post in this silly string, as I've told you several times now...

 

Keep pretending you can't find it... and that Joe has never lost a primary. That's a hoot!!!




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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #94)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:38 PM

96. And we have another frantic strawman sacrificed in the effort to try to deflect from the

 

posts that aren't showing up for anyone but bLuE...



If the link to the graphic in your own signature isn't working, it might be an indication that you're unsure of what URLs are.



Here's the "first post in this silly string" hon:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=88768

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7. Congrats on that... let's see how long that lasts. My guess... not very.

Wish Joe luck though... perhaps, the third time's the charm.


Where's the BEEF?

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #96)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:17 PM

106. LOL! Wonder why you'd link to the post of mine RIGHT ABOVE the one we've been talkin about, in which

 

I first responded to the incorrect statement that Joe Biden has never lost a primary, by identifying the last two times Joe ran and lost in a Democratic Party primary for President. That's how I know you read it. Too funny!!!




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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #106)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 05:50 AM

121. I think you realize now your posts don't actually prove what you think they do,

 

and that's why you won't link to them.

Embarassment....



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Response to ehrnst (Reply #78)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:22 PM

88. I'll tell you, if I ever said something and then wanted to PROVE that I said it....

 

....I'd be more than eager to provide links to what I said I said. Wonder why that's not happening in this case?
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Response to George II (Reply #88)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:34 PM

95. The evidence to prove us wrong is right there..

 

but only if it actually exists, and bLuE actually did write those posts.

And yet, no one has seen these posts, but bLuE, and she just keeps on digging that hole deeper with every frantic reply that doesn't include those links.







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Response to ehrnst (Reply #95)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:45 PM

98. He/she wrote those posts, but they don't say what he/she now says they say.

 

The bottom line is that Biden has never, EVER, lost a presidential primary.
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Response to George II (Reply #98)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 05:46 AM

120. Seems like maybe he/she is aware of that now, and doesn't want to own up....

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #120)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:11 AM

122. Perhaps. Fact remains, Joe Biden has never lost a single primary.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #122)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:14 AM

123. rElYiNg oN fAcTs... Is A fAiLuRe Of iMaGiNaTiOn...

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:10 PM

58. Oh please

 

Biden/Harris is the ticket we want.
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #58)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:25 PM

62. What does that have to do with what we're talking about?...

 

That Joe lost TWO presidential primaries, despite the false claim that he's never lost a primary.

But, since you brought it up, the ticket we want is...


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:14 PM

105. Maybe they mean this.

 

The 1988 presidential campaign of Joe Biden, the longtime Democratic United States Senator from Delaware and eventual 47th Vice President of the United States, began in June 1987. He ran for President of the United States in the 1988 United States presidential election. He was considered one of the potentially strongest candidates in the field. However, in September 1987, newspaper stories stated he had plagiarized a speech by British politician Neil Kinnock. Other allegations of past law school plagiarism and exaggerating his academic record soon followed. Biden withdrew from the race later that month.

During the campaign, Biden focused on his plan to achieve political success in the Iraq War through a system of federalization. He touted his record in the Senate as the head of several congressional committees and experience in foreign policy. Despite a few notable endorsements, Biden failed to garner significant support in opinion polls, and was marred by controversial comments made while campaigning. He ultimately dropped out of the race on January 3, 2008, after coming in fifth place and capturing less than 1% of the vote in the Iowa caucus.[4]

He dropped out of both, so technically he never lost those two. That is prob what they are talking about.
Eko.
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Response to Eko (Reply #105)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:52 PM

109. Maybe, but, then they should just say that because Biden WITHDREW

 

from the 2008 presidential primary campaign after all that evidence of plagerism and exaggerations came to light, as you pointed to, then technically he didn't lose that primary race.

In my view, however, once you declare you're in the Democratic Party's primary campaign for president and don't WIN, then you lost that primary campaign. Same thing happened when Obama won the 2008 primary race... Biden declared his candidacy and, then, like other candidates, he had to withdraw due to his dismal showing, and so he LOST that 2008 primary campaign.

Now, if they want to disagree because of the circumstances of Biden's loss in those primary races, FINE... just don't pretend that I didn't make a case why Joe Biden lost in two Democratic primary campaigns for President.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #109)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:58 PM

111. Eh,

 

I think they are more correct than you are. But like I told you before,
Towards me,
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Response to Eko (Reply #111)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:07 PM

112. I don't mind you saying so... it's okay to disagree on substance.

 

Unfortunately, for some - not you, thanks! - they never even get to a serious substantive conversation because they're too busy either denying what people say or twisting their words into a "straw man argument."


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #112)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:12 PM

113. People are quick to argue.

 

I am trying to stay away from that this primary. I think twice before I post something and when I do I try to do it in a way that is not attacking the poster or their candidate of choice. I try to ask questions or just post info in a reasonable way and state that I disagree with them when I do while trying my best to respect them. Its working so far, hopefully it will the entire primary.
Keep on keeponing!
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Response to Eko (Reply #113)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:16 PM

114. That's admirable...good luck to your candidate. I'd happily vote for Joe if he wins the 2020 primary

 


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #114)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:42 PM

115. Thanks,

 

and I would happily vote for Sanders if he wins.
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #109)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:54 PM

128. So you admit you were wrong!!!!!

 

That's progress!!!

Facts are friends!

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:02 PM

55. Do more reading.......

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_Joe_Biden
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Response to USALiberal (Reply #55)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:20 PM

61. Read?! Now THERE'S a concept!! Even when I specifically identify Joe's 2 presidential primary losses

 

there are still those here that will never even acknowledge what you say, let alone admit they're wrong in saying Joe has never lost a primary.


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #61)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:23 PM

90. Like people who can't admit that Bernie is an Independent Senator from Vermont?

 

Or that they never posted any evidence to support their claims, let alone MANY TIMES that he "votes more with Democrats than MOST DEMOCRATS vote WITH DEMOCRATS?"












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Response to USALiberal (Reply #55)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:50 PM

75. Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp!

 


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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:59 AM

8. That was me!....lol

 

Yep, Biden/Harris would clinch it
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:02 AM

9. Me 3. nt

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:07 AM

10. A Biden-Harris ticket will be hard for Trump to beat.....

 

Should Joe win the nomination.

They have the smarts, the passion, the energy, and the focus on the issues.....They will appeal to the very broad demographic spectrum of the Democratic Party .
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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:50 PM

100. Women will march to the voting booths to vote if that's the ticket...

 

If du had twitter gifs, I would add black women in their big church hats marching down the aisle to a gospel tune.
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:07 AM

11. That would be an excellent ticket, I think.

 

If Joe Biden ends up being the nominee, I'm pretty sure he will be planning a single-term presidency. In that case, That would give Kamala Harris four years to learn the job. I can see her as President in 2024, really.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:08 AM

12. Notice, Harris says, she's crazy about Joe....

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:11 AM

14. Bernie has slid to 5th!

 



“But he’s SoArINg!1!”
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:14 AM

16. ...

 


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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:22 AM

17. His finger wagging will go nuclear! Lol

 

I like Bernie, but he is a niche candidate, without the broad appeal necessary for a winning 50 state campaign, like Joe.
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Response to Baclava (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:51 PM

76. The telephone game

 

Or rather the video game. I don’t support Bernie, but he didn’t do a shaming kind of wag. Just put his finger up and maybe moved it slightly. Seemed like he was saying ok but hold on...I am so hating the slightest gesture, out of context word becoming about insulting and disrespecting, betraying deep racism and misogyny. I especially hate men who have supported women’s causes and civil rights being so accused.
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #76)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:36 PM

107. Perception is reality, for the masses

 

Nuance is lost
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:24 AM

18. If DU got to pick nominees and presidents...

 

... the world would be a better place.

I suspect Sanders would take his current polling numbers in public polls over doing better on DU.
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Response to FBaggins (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:30 AM

19. I'm sure he would too

 

The good news is with a couple more town halls where he advocates for the Dylan Roofs of the world to be able to vote, and a couple of more tone deaf moments like he had at She the People, his real world numbers will start to look a lot like his DU numbers.
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Response to FBaggins (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:17 PM

59. That might be true but DU family still has their fighting amongst each other

 

and that would need to end. It needs to end now. There is nothing wrong with wanting different candidates but the picking each other apart needs to stop. We all agree that the one most important thing is getting trump out and all of the choices are trying just that.

I am hoping that those who do not win the primary will immediately endorse the winner and let their followers know that they are going to vote for that person. Stomping around and pouting that they did not win will be asinine and just hurt this country further.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:40 PM

97. Lol!

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:13 AM

15. I love it but would she do it?

 

Biden/Harris sounds a little like Oil/Water. That’s just my impression. I’d love that ticket though.
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Response to nolabear (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:34 AM

22. Who wouldn't. That puts Harris in line to be the 47th President.

 

I can envision Biden making a deal after Super Tuesday and being the presumptive nominee. Harris running second or third in delegates. They make the deal and bring all contenders on board at a unity rally. Now, I'll admit Bernie Sanders needs to be in the mix. Whether he gets something big in the administration or a commitment to an issue dear to him. I fully expect that to be a sticking point, if we ever get to the point that I'm predicting.

The biggest sticking point in a Biden-Harris ticket is Dianne Feinstein. She and Kamala hate each other and Feinstein endorsed Biden before he declared.

The common denominator to all of this is Trump. Can we all get together to defeat him and then fight each other after?

If, as I suspect, the Biden-Harris ticket has the strength to get to a majority of delegates, Sanders and Feinstein will need to bury their hatchets for the good of America.
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Response to louis c (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:38 AM

24. Totally true. I'm for it.

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:30 AM

20. A Biden/Harris ticket would thrill me

 

And I think it would excite the country. I've already admitted I have a girl-crush on Kamala Harris. She's one tough cookie; I love that.

Biden/Harris? Oh God, yes!
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:34 AM

21. K&R

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:37 AM

23. It looks like Kamala Harris has taken the biggest drop.

 

She was in the high teens at one point.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:08 PM

57. There were far more undecideds back then too.

 

The number of DUers supporting Kamala may have remained constant but she hasn't made inroads with the undecideds who appear to be breaking for Biden and for Mayor Pete.
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:43 AM

25. Yes we can!

 

Biden/Harris 2020
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:50 AM

26. wow BS is in 6th ?

 

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:51 AM

27. BS is 5th. Undecideds don't count as a candidate.

 

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:12 PM

32. That makes me happy.

 

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:42 PM

39. BS killed his candidacy after cnn townhall

 

suggesting that terrorists serving in prison should be able to vote in elections. It was beyond embarassing and will never go away. Imagine, how victimes of crime feel about it - I almost hate him for suggesting that. He won’t be the nominee. We need to focus on taking him down early.
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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #39)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:46 PM

51. Can you imagine him being asked about Earl Bradley?

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:53 AM

28. That would be a great ticket

 

It’s also the smartest ticket for the election.
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:53 AM

29. Congratulations to Biden and his supporters.

 

If he's the candidate I'd vote for him in a NY minute.
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Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:55 AM

30. K&R

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:30 PM

35. Yes, I noticed that as well

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:34 PM

36. demographicaly, that would be the most logical ticket

 

that covers male, female, white, black, young, old, progressive, moderate, east coast, west coast, independent vote, etc. This is not that different from Obama/Biden ticket. If not, at the very least, Kamala is perfect for AG position. She’s already done it in the largest state.
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:50 PM

40. WOOHOO!! YEA JOE FOR 2020!!!

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:11 PM

46. Anyone here that did not expect this to happen? EOM

 

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Response to tiredtoo (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:54 PM

117. nope

 

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:35 PM

49. That would be a good ticket and can certainly win

 

But, there are several combinations that I think could win, including Harris-Biden.

Lets see what happens in the primaries next year. Lots can happen between now and then.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:31 PM

64. He has a way of making people smile.

 

The Rump can’t compete with Joe’s glow.
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:45 PM

66. DU has changed. There was a time when candidates like Kucinich lead the field

 

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #66)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:50 PM

101. I remember that. nt

 

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #66)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:23 AM

126. Thank Goodness.. look

 

where Kucinich ended up.
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Response to Cha (Reply #126)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 06:38 AM

132. He's kind of way out there now.

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:51 PM

67. Most glad to see that one now buried in the "more..." list,

 

And off of the main lineup.
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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #67)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:51 PM

103. +1 nt

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:54 PM

69. W00T!!

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:03 PM

82. Congratulations...

 

12 Joe
11 Kamala
10 Pete
9 Elizabeth
8 Bernie


… where will the next move be?

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:47 PM

99. Wow.. I hadn't even

 

noticed, Yet!
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Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:51 PM

102. I love each of the top 4. Dam we have a fine slate.

 

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Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:53 PM

104. I will still wait for the debates. nt

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:39 PM

108. That would be my #1 choice for the ticket

 

I think Trump & Pence would have a hard time going up against them.

There was chatter on MSNBC the other day...not the first time I've heard it...about Trump dumping Pence and running with Nikki Haley.

Then they mentioned that she has been "critical of him on occasion."

OOOPS.

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:52 PM

110. K&R! This is great news!

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 05:29 AM

118. I see Biden picked up another point overnight here at DU...

 

...Biden is not the perfect pick, he's the best pick.

That's how Obama felt in 2008 and that's how I feel now.
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:18 AM

124. Cool

 

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Response to louis c (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:17 AM

125. Biden's got intelligence, empathy, experience, honesty. He's the Anti-Trump.

 

A vast majority of Americans are sick to death of the daily in-your-face corruption, chaos and unbridled insanity that is the Trump family and complicit Republicans. They’ve got some serious nerve to subject the country to the crazed and hurtful whims emitted from the pitifully twisted “mind” of such a dangerous buffoon.

Joe Biden is the complete opposite of 45, in every way. He’s time-tested; and he’s “pre-disasterized” in that his past goof-ups are known, so there are no surprises down the road. He looks for the good in others, and yeah, his empathy has been “touchy-feely” at times, both with women and men. But unlike 45, I take Joe at his word that he’ll be more mindful of that.

I understand the longing for a younger, more progressive candidate— and in normal, average circumstances, I’d probably support such a person. But clearly, America has been pushed radically off course, both at home and in relations with other countries. My sense is that Biden is best qualified, both in temperament and experience, to lead a 45-damaged country in a return to normalcy, as a first step.

The one hitch I have in supporting Biden, is that, should he emerge on top, he’d make a grave mistake if he didn’t share the ticket with a younger, more progressive candidate, ideally a woman, who’d be positioned to play a much bigger role than the usual veep, with the idea in mind that Joe may only have one term in him.

All food for thought, while it’s still very early in the game. The best thing is, there are several really terrific Democrats who’ve announced. Whatever happens, there’s little chance of producing a weak candidate.
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Response to VOX (Reply #125)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:40 AM

127. Well said, Vox!

 

We'll see what happens.. this is just the beginning.. a long and winding road ahead.

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Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #127)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:00 PM

129. Great song!

 

Thanks, cha.
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Response to VOX (Reply #129)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:37 PM

130. I know!

 

I love it!
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Response to louis c (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:16 PM

131. With 13% of the vote

 

Undecideds are a whopping 41%.
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