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Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:31 PM

 

It seems like Joe Biden's entry into the race has "energized" DU for sure.

There seem to have been more kitchen sinks thrown at Joe than all the rest of the field combined. 

They say one way to judge a person is by their enemies and, though I remain undecided, after seeing who is supposedly so "offended" by the Biden candidacy, he is certainly now one of my top contenders. 

Joe Biden hasn't always been right, but he's always been a kind and decent man who did what he thought was best for the nation. Those who would have us judge him by selected failures over a half-century career ask us to abandon our common sense. I have no idea how they justify this.



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Reply It seems like Joe Biden's entry into the race has "energized" DU for sure. (Original post)
Atticus Apr 2019 OP
UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #1
Kurt V. Apr 2019 #2
Decoy of Fenris Apr 2019 #3
BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #24
NYMinute Apr 2019 #25
flamingdem Apr 2019 #4
hedda_foil Apr 2019 #5
Atticus Apr 2019 #19
hedda_foil Apr 2019 #21
Skittles Apr 2019 #39
Cha Apr 2019 #6
BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #8
Cha Apr 2019 #10
Hortensis Apr 2019 #7
Cha Apr 2019 #11
MustLoveBeagles Apr 2019 #18
Cha Apr 2019 #20
MustLoveBeagles Apr 2019 #30
Cha Apr 2019 #31
CTyankee Apr 2019 #33
BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #34
gateley Apr 2019 #9
Cha Apr 2019 #12
gateley Apr 2019 #14
Cha Apr 2019 #15
gateley Apr 2019 #16
duforsure Apr 2019 #13
gateley Apr 2019 #17
emmaverybo Apr 2019 #23
gateley Apr 2019 #27
Hekate Apr 2019 #22
emmaverybo Apr 2019 #26
gateley Apr 2019 #28
Laelth Apr 2019 #49
JustAnotherGen Apr 2019 #29
YOHABLO Apr 2019 #32
Atticus Apr 2019 #35
Indykatie Apr 2019 #36
Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38
BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #42
YOHABLO Apr 2019 #45
BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #48
treestar Apr 2019 #47
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #37
Cha Apr 2019 #40
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #41
Cha Apr 2019 #43
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #44
Cha Apr 2019 #52
coeur_de_lion Apr 2019 #54
Cha Apr 2019 #56
redstateblues Apr 2019 #51
Cha Apr 2019 #53
treestar Apr 2019 #46
ObamaKerryDem Apr 2019 #50
Blue_true Apr 2019 #55

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:33 PM

1. You damn skippy. It sure did energize me. When I mentioned Biden/Harris today my non

 

political co worker perked up and really liked that.
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:39 PM

2. humans take cues from other humans. Always have, always will.

 

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:44 PM

3. Biden has baggage that people take issue with. There's no denying that.

 

I don't give a shit about any of it personally and I think he's got the best straight up chance of beating Trump. That said, legitimate (and some illegitimate) complaints about his past will come, as he's been involved in politics for a long while. Everyone's got their precious pet issues to wail about, so wail they will. We're seeing it from the left and we'll be seeing it from the right.

One of the benefits of Biden is that it's unlikely there's anything he hasn't had thrown at him already. He'll weather it just fine.
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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:00 PM

24. lol

 

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Response to BlueFlorida (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:01 PM

25. I know right?

 

Even if there is just a tiny money clip, some can make whole baggage out of it.
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:57 PM

4. Biden for the win

 

It won't be easy but I believe he's our best shot
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:01 PM

5. It would take months for Biden to catch up to the crap that's been thrown at Bernie for months.

 

Frankly, the only way I'll vote for either of them is if he actually wind up being nominated. In the meantime, I'm trying to sort out the legitimate beefs from the troll bait.
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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:41 PM

19. Haven't most of the issues raised with Bernie been about the last campaign?

 

Some of the stuff flung at Biden goes back into the 90's.
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Response to Atticus (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:48 PM

21. Of course, though often it's with an updated spin.

 

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:40 PM

39. neither one will ever come CLOSE to what Hillary had to endure

 

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:04 PM

6. Biden is kind and a Uniter.. that's what's

 

important.

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Response to Cha (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:06 PM

8. And that may well be what gets it done this year.

 

Whoever follows this shit show will have a big mess to clean up. There won’t be a helluva lot of time for on the job training, and that is another check mark for him.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:11 PM

10. Yes!.. he's many things besides

 

kind and a Uniter.

Biden is experienced as a working and successful Vice President with Foreign Policy Cred.

He certainly would know what he's looking for in a VP!
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:05 PM

7. That last is so well stated. Thanks.

 

I have no idea how they are able to compartmentalize his most recent history out of consideration, but they do.

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President Barack Obama had his audience in tears on Thursday when he surprised his Vice President and “brother” Joe Biden by awarding him the nation’s highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom with Distinction...

Obama described Biden as “the best Vice President America’s ever had” and said that selecting Biden as his running mate was “the best possible choice, not just for me but for the American people.”
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:15 PM

11. Because it's a

 

talking point they've latched onto without much forethought.

Thank You for this pic of Biden receiving the Medal of Freedom from President Obama, Hortensis!

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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:40 PM

18. I see tears in his eyes

 

You can tell he was genuinely moved. If Joe get's the nomination I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. He'd be a wonderful president.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:46 PM

20. What a moment in history

 

for him and for us!

Mahalo, MustLoveBeagles!
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Response to Cha (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:28 PM

30. That it was

 

Mahalo, Cha
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:30 PM

31. Mahalo nui loa and

 

Aloha to you, MLB!
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:47 PM

33. The first thing I noticed in that photo. It was just wonderful. So happy for him.

 

I have a reverence for Joe because of just such moments.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:48 PM

34. because he doesn't have divine messianic purity. nt

 

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:06 PM

9. Harkens me back to 2007 when I first got on board with him -- he can handle it. :-) nt

 

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Response to gateley (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:15 PM

12. Aloha, gately!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:26 PM

14. Hey! Cha!!!

 

SO good to see you!!
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Response to gateley (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:28 PM

15. You, too! You were

 

always a Biden fan.. and look where we are now!

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:31 PM

16. Can you believe it? Here we go again! nt

 

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:24 PM

13. Like Joe,

 

But I hope he realizes trump will use his DOJ puppet to criminalize him and Obama with his abuse of power. He'll do like he did to Hillary, only this time he'll be pushing his corrupted people to go after them both, and after he and Mitch has been stacking the courts.
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Response to duforsure (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:32 PM

17. Can't worry about what might happen in the future-- just got to do what we can now. nt

 

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Response to gateley (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:58 PM

23. Thanks

 

For this wise advice which can apply to so much else than this election!
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:05 PM

27. Now how do I learn to follow my own advice? :-) nt

 

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:52 PM

22. Yep. I think the world of Biden: his heart, strength, patriotism, humanity. We NEED his message...

 

He won't back down from it. As an announced candidate, he's going to have a great opportunity to get his message out.

Any Dem at all among the candidates will govern in an acceptably liberal manner, some just more strongly than others.

Weeks ago I warned that his very longevity was going to be used against him, and sure enough, at the crack of dawn today certain DUers were on a very predictable attack. Well, to hell with that. Win, lose, or draw, America needs to hear the message Joe Biden is sending.
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Response to Hekate (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:04 PM

26. Beautifully put

 

this last line. I am feeling so energized that I look forward to hearing from all our candidates. We have an embarrassment of riches in our field. They will make each other and America better just by carrying a different tune and tone. Whatever role Biden takes, it will be strong,
positive, and uplifting.
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Response to Hekate (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:07 PM

28. I think all of our candidates have important messages -- we are SO LUCKY.

 

If any one of them becomes POTUS I will have peace in my heart and feel safe. I trust them all.
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Response to Hekate (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:54 PM

49. Well said. n/t

 

-Laelth
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:12 PM

29. Some of the words

 

If ardent supporters of other candidates have caused me to knock their candidates down.

I thought his message this morning was spot on.

And it appealed to my Personal Safety and National Security concerns.

When I'm not at DU and in a circle of other black women -


He addressed our fear out of the gate.

I've heard and read time and again for two and a half years about the work is me concerns of white HATEFUL Trump voters. It's ALL about them.

(Eye rolling equals contempt)

Except, they are hateful.

He addressed it. Head on.

He's in my five - it shifted. Pete, Kamala, Andy, Julian and Joe.
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:46 PM

32. I saw a clip on tv today where he states that he's not a 'Progressive'

 

He said he's a liberal. What is so abhorrent about saying you're a 'Progressive'? Pelosi said she's a 'Progressive'.
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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #32)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:01 PM

35. Several years ago, with the help of the new media phenomenon called "talk radio",

 

the RWNJ's managed to make "liberal" a perjorative. The Tea Party then made it dangerous to identify as a liberal in some areas. So, some who had always considered themselves "liberals" quietly became "progressives".

Today, I think they're pretty much synonymous. I don't object to being called either, unless the speaker is a con. Then, I insist I'm a liberal, just because it pisses them off.
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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #32)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:14 PM

36. 'Progressive' Has Been Unfairly Given a Negative Connotation by the Far Left

 

They have defined it as being 100% on board with their agenda and platform. Anything less makes you a centrist to some of them. It shouldn't matter but sadly it does.
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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #32)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:28 PM

38. We went to progressive because the right destroyed the word liberal.

 

Many still use the word. We should not allow the right to call the tune,
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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #32)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:18 PM

42. What's so abhorrent about calling himself a liberal?

 

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #42)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:49 PM

45. I did not say calling oneself a 'liberal' was abhorrent.

 

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #45)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 02:44 PM

48. Progressive doesn't mean anything anymore

 

Liberal has actual meaning. That should be the preferred term, not some word we ran to because the GOP tried to make it a slur.

And I never said you called it abhorrent.
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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #32)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:56 PM

47. why is the label so important?

 

Any of the 20 candidates are fine with their stances on the issues. And we are trying to stop the Dotard from packing the court more and/or making the Presidency authoritarian. The soul of the nation is at stake. How Biden not saying he is a progressive is more important than that is impossible to understand.
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:22 PM

37. That's the main reason I like Joe

 

Because long before he declared GOP talking heads were coming after him tooth and nail.

Yes he is a good man. He will be an able leader. But I love him the most because they hate him.

They always hate the ones that they know can beat them.

And if I wasn’t crazy about him before today I damn sure would be after that campaign ad.

Fucking fabulous.
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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:03 PM

40. Awww!

 

And if I wasn’t crazy about him before today I damn sure would be after that campaign ad.

Right?!
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Response to Cha (Reply #40)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:07 PM

41. Firing from both barrels

 

Right out of the gate..

Called him (indirectly) exactly what he is.

White supremacist racist a** unworthy of the Office of the Presidency.
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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #41)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:18 PM

43. It was Brilliant!

 

I like his Team, too! Back to Reality, MF!
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Response to Cha (Reply #43)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:43 PM

44. Its going to be fun

 

watching him play with trump. He's already renting space in his head.
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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #44)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:28 PM

52. Yeah, trump has some

 

awful karma coming at him.. and Biden leaves zero doubt what he intends to do to Trump during the next 18 months.
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Response to Cha (Reply #52)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:30 PM

54. Enjoying it already

 

Whether he gets the nomination or not, right now we need Joe Biden.
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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #54)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:39 PM

56. Exactly, coeur_de_lion!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #43)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:22 PM

51. I loved that he called out Trumps lies today

 

As one of the three main reasons he’s running. Strong stuff.
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Response to redstateblues (Reply #51)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:29 PM

53. Outstanding, redstateblues! I

 

haven't seen it yet.
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:54 PM

46. I agree and geez the way to handle it is not looking only for your

 

opponents' faults. It just creates a negativity overall and that is not "energizing," which is so often deemed necessary. I am not energized for your candidate by your criticism of mine. And yours will have no room to talk, either, as I can find negatives on them. Why have the eventual winner so cut down that we "hold our nose" if it turns out not to be our person? We can't afford this.
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:07 PM

50. #This! (Except for the undecided part - I am Team Joe! :)) K&R

 

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:31 PM

55. Yeah, Undecided dropped two whole points to 40%.

 

Honestly, a lot of DU people are waiting for the debates.
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